AI Art Seething General

[Psyduck]

Cant quote properly for some reason but 100% agreed with @Premium Dog Food and @Ether Being, if anything, AI is weeding out the shit tier. Nothings stopping you from improving your stuff and compete. And that's only if you're in the commission business, if you do art as a hobby, there really isnt anything to worry about

And yeah, traditional, hand made craft will always be in demand, you just gotta be good at it, as you should be if you have the balls to put a prize on your work. Agreed with Null, weeding out simple digital commissions with AI will increase the value of the rarer, human crafts

If anything this is a great time to hone your pencils, become the man whose lines are as good as the computer's! Thats a selling point right there!


Rambled on a bit but art is a beloved hobby of mine, and seeing all of this seething over AI is just fucking ridiculous, had to say my piece

 

[Monkey Pink]

The GoFundMe lady and her followers on Twitter are seething so hard they're legitimately going insane lmao:

 

[Monkey Pink]

Well, KiwiFarms is back from the dead and a LOT has happened in the AI Wars world.

/g/ has had a bunch of good AI Art Seethe threads this past week, to the point where it's a general now:

/g/ - Technology » Searching for posts with the subject ‘Artist Seethe’.

desuarchive.org

In short, artists are doubling down on their "AI is theft" sobbing and increasingly desperate attempts to get current diffusion projects banned, which now includes calling the Unstable Diffusion developers pedophiles:



One artist, the guy behind the ArtStation protests, finally goes mask off and admits that his opposition to AI was never truly about copyright theft:


There's a lot of information and other drama in those linked /g/ threads though, I recommend you browse them in your spare time to catch up.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Well, KiwiFarms is back from the dead and a LOT has happened in the AI Wars world.

/g/ has had a bunch of good AI Art Seethe threads this past week, to the point where it's a general now:

/g/ - Technology » Searching for posts with the subject ‘Artist Seethe’.

desuarchive.org

In short, artists are doubling down on their "AI is theft" sobbing and increasingly desperate attempts to get current diffusion projects banned, which now includes calling the Unstable Diffusion developers pedophiles:

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One artist, the guy behind the ArtStation protests, finally goes mask off and admits that his opposition to AI was never truly about copyright theft:
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There's a lot of information and other drama in those linked /g/ threads though, I recommend you browse them in your spare time to catch up.

I hope many of these seething artfags remove themselves from this world. AI art can't be stopped.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Well, KiwiFarms is back from the dead and a LOT has happened in the AI Wars world.

/g/ has had a bunch of good AI Art Seethe threads this past week, to the point where it's a general now:

/g/ - Technology » Searching for posts with the subject ‘Artist Seethe’.

desuarchive.org

In short, artists are doubling down on their "AI is theft" sobbing and increasingly desperate attempts to get current diffusion projects banned, which now includes calling the Unstable Diffusion developers pedophiles:

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One artist, the guy behind the ArtStation protests, finally goes mask off and admits that his opposition to AI was never truly about copyright theft:
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There's a lot of information and other drama in those linked /g/ threads though, I recommend you browse them in your spare time to catch up.

As an artist, I can understand (but don't agree) why some artists seethe at AI Art, and their issues with 'AI Art Theft' (though it brings up interesting questions about Warhol, Lichtenstein, Koon, Fairey and Banksy's work). I am disgusted at how quickly they would happily destroy the concept of Fair Use to own the 'AI Chuds' (not to mention freedom of expression). Art theft has always been around and it sucks, but the way Twatter artists are going about this is the equivalent of Comicon banning Artist Alley to stop Rob Granito.

On the other hand, I hate bugmen that push AI Art has 'Democratized' art and now anyone can make it, when the truth is they just want something without putting the work in.

(I guarantee that if you told the same people you used AI to write code, you're not a real coder, lol)

AI Art can be a pretty amazing tool, Australian comic book artist Tim Malloy uses AI Art to create production stills of 1980's television shows from another dimension.





But now it seems that the AI vs Artist argument might be the least of AI developers concerns.
https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1606347326624215040?s=20&t=s7mOz2GG9vNSmY0x3kosTQ

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

when the truth is they just want something without putting the work in.

And? The artfag who put the Banana on the wall also didn't put any work into it. Some people just like pretty pictures. Some people don't have time to become an artist and train for years and years. Some people are disabled and can never do it the normal way. Yes, art is work...usually but not everyone has the time, the money and the patience to study it.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Some people are disabled and can never do it the normal way

They need to get on Peter Longstaff's level.

Some people just like pretty pictures. Some people don't have time to become an artist and train for years and years.

That's fair, and I think people have a right to do that. But the jury's still out on if they can be called artists.

The artfag who put the Banana on the wall also didn't put any work into it.

Maurizio Cattelan is a talented sculpturer, and a bit of an art troll.

 

[Atatata]

I feel that everyone should try to learn at least basic art skills. Nothing is sadder than seeing a grown man draw a flower like he's a six year old girl.
The more you practice, the better your observational skills get so it's not like it isn't a generally good thing to do.

 

[Monkey Pink]

Linked in the above 4chan threads, but posting it here for laughs:

https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zxse22/rart_mod_accuses_artist_of_using_ai_and_when/

https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxaia5/beneath_the_dragoneye_moons_ben_moran_digital_2022/

https://www.unddit.com/r/Art/comments/zxb30a/current_state_of_art_me_photo_2022/

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

I personally dont care if someone uses Ai to create pieces for templates, concept art or just for fun, but I find it retarded if you sell it as your own when you didnt make a single line in the fucking drawing.

 

[Justwandering02]

man I find the anti ai art ''artist'' funny. For all their rage and seething most of them aren't even conscious that they artistic ''career'' (with some exception) was always a pipe dream. Able to draw nice thing is already a common skill that pretty much everyone can aquire with enough determination, so putting all your egg in the art basket is just reckless.
Also the art thief accusation.. the ''art'' community was always riffle with drama and petty accusation. Art style can't by copyrighted for a reason..
Also a personal cow of mine: bogleech(he was legit good circa 2013 but now he barely do anything except complaint about sjw stuff on his tumblr) seething about how ai art will steal his job and stuff
Will just dump is hysterical rambling link (too lazy for screenshot)

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/bogleech-midjourney-is-the-first-ai-image/b61stuv7q1jg

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/i-think-people-who-keep-arguing-this-cant-replace/3h5e65kc5o6u

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/people-really-dont-seem-to-understand-what-i-mean/4u1htd1tzs3t

Man you must be really insecure if you feel threatened by AI generated pretty image that don't even match his art style..

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/ai-generated-art-wont-hurt-that-many-artists/d97fnt277lby

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/people-are-still-downplaying-how-many-art-jobs-ai/5h3f2cx3qibw

Some more anti corporatism rambling about AI art. What funny in this thing it show the man is complely clueless at how the real world work.. (he dosen't have a ''real'' job most of his revenue come from his patreon/kofee/etsie sell also a bit from his kickstarter) (I'm gonna PW a bit but sometime when I do fiverr order, sometime I fall on a Karen wich are very hard to satisfy always complain about trivial nitpick, AI art as cool as it are unable to keep consistency, unless their a human behind it to photoshop away the unwanted detail the machine will break)
Also the fact that he quickly dismiss any strong flaw that would make it impossible a full artist replacement like the infamous ''AI hand'' feel like he's hysterical

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/bogleech-okay-this-is-driving-me-crazy-why-the/tiqvgt53p3ru

I dunno but it feal like he,s unwilling to know how the machine work and he's super scared that the machine will steal his imagination. Because behind every wacky stuff their a prompt and a database.. Nothing is new everything is recycled

 

[DeadwastePrime]

I personally dont care if someone uses Ai to create pieces for templates, concept art or just for fun, but I find it retarded if you sell it as your own when you didnt make a single line in the fucking drawing.

i mean thats what i kinda use it for personally. using it like a reference for things

 

[The Grimace]

man I find the anti ai art ''artist'' funny. For all their rage and seething most of them aren't even conscious that they artistic ''career'' (with some exception) was always a pipe dream. Able to draw nice thing is already a common skill that pretty much everyone can aquire with enough determination, so putting all your egg in the art basket is just reckless.
Also the art thief accusation.. the ''art'' community was always riffle with drama and petty accusation. Art style can't by copyrighted for a reason..
Also a personal cow of mine: bogleech(he was legit good circa 2013 but now he barely do anything except complaint about sjw stuff on his tumblr) seething about how ai art will steal his job and stuff
Will just dump is hysterical rambling link (too lazy for screenshot)

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/bogleech-midjourney-is-the-first-ai-image/b61stuv7q1jg

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/i-think-people-who-keep-arguing-this-cant-replace/3h5e65kc5o6u

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/people-really-dont-seem-to-understand-what-i-mean/4u1htd1tzs3t

Man you must be really insecure if you feel threatened by AI generated pretty image that don't even match his art style..

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/ai-generated-art-wont-hurt-that-many-artists/d97fnt277lby

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/people-are-still-downplaying-how-many-art-jobs-ai/5h3f2cx3qibw

Some more anti corporatism rambling about AI art. What funny in this thing it show the man is complely clueless at how the real world work.. (he dosen't have a ''real'' job most of his revenue come from his patreon/kofee/etsie sell also a bit from his kickstarter) (I'm gonna PW a bit but sometime when I do fiverr order, sometime I fall on a Karen wich are very hard to satisfy always complain about trivial nitpick, AI art as cool as it are unable to keep consistency, unless their a human behind it to photoshop away the unwanted detail the machine will break)
Also the fact that he quickly dismiss any strong flaw that would make it impossible a full artist replacement like the infamous ''AI hand'' feel like he's hysterical

https://at.tumblr.com/bogleech/bogleech-okay-this-is-driving-me-crazy-why-the/tiqvgt53p3ru

I dunno but it feal like he,s unwilling to know how the machine work and he's super scared that the machine will steal his imagination. Because behind every wacky stuff their a prompt and a database.. Nothing is new everything is recycled

Bogleech is so lazy I could imagine an AI finishing Mortasheen before he does.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I personally dont care if someone uses Ai to create pieces for templates, concept art or just for fun, but I find it retarded if you sell it as your own when you didnt make a single line in the fucking drawing.

If I came up and selected the prompt, than I made the drawing. Literally no different than taking a photograph.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

If I came up and selected the prompt, than I made the drawing. Literally no different than taking a photograph.

If this comment is serious then no, you are completely wrong, taking a good picture needs good understanding of frameming and that isnt something everyone knows, thats why there are professional photographers, not to mention that professional photos are later retouched and color corrected.
Writing a prompt is the same as sending a request to an artist, you wouldnt say you made the drawing just because you came up with the idea

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

If this comment is serious then no, you are completely wrong, taking a good picture needs good understanding of frameming and that isnt something everyone knows, thats why there are professional photographers, not to mention that professional photos are later retouched and color corrected.
Writing a prompt is the same as sending a request to an artist, you wouldnt say you made the drawing just because you came up with the idea

Just like how there's people making money off writing AI prompts and touching them up to make them look truly good. If I had an idea and I got an AI to execute it, I am just as much of an artist as a photographer who took a picture of a subject they thought was interesting. Telling an AI to draw a picture of my house is no different than physically drawing my house or taking a picture of it, since it's not the property of whoever made the paint or camera.

There's no away around these pure facts and to say otherwise is the sort of hilarious snobbery that makes me want to remind you to learn to code.

 

[Smug]

taking a good picture needs good understanding of frameming and that isnt something everyone knows, thats why there are professional photographers

Any random fucker with a phone can (even accidentally) take a good picture. It's not special. If you think it is, then imagine how photorealistic painters felt when photography was invented. Just take the loss, learn the new tech if it's good enough to replace you so it doesn't, and move on.

Life is cruel, but also big fat lol for all those tradies who are suddenly the ones way more easily able to earn money for their physical hard work than shit-tier furry commission artists.

Edit: hell, a quality photographer isn't going to lose their job. For anyone skilled and creative enough, this is just yet another opportunity for them to expand their craft.

 

[AnOminous]

Any random fucker with a phone can (even accidentally) take a good picture. It's not special. If you think it is, then imagine how photorealistic painters felt when photography was invented. Just take the loss, learn the new tech if it's good enough to replace you so it doesn't, and move on.

Life is cruel, but also big fat lol for all those tradies who are suddenly the ones way more easily able to earn money for their physical hard work than shit-tier furry commission artists.

Edit: hell, a quality photographer isn't going to lose their job. For anyone skilled and creative enough, this is just yet another opportunity for them to expand their craft.

If someone uses AI, spends maybe weeks training it, then more hours twiddling the prompt until it looks like they want, and possibly a few more hours manually editing, I don't see how that's not at least as creative as some furfag commission artist shitting out some garbage that looks exactly like every other furfag commission artist.

 

[Half Empty]

But now it seems that the AI vs Artist argument might be the least of AI developers concerns.
https://twitter.com/AlexEpstein/status/1606347326624215040?s=20&t=s7mOz2GG9vNSmY0x3kosTQ

I bet governments and entities in the business and financial world will be using censored A.I. too, yeah?

I realize this has been said before but once A.I. art has the scope and versatility to replace traditional artist the propaganda arm will extend and it's hand will change the hearts and minds of idiots everywhere. There is just too much time and money to be saved and too much control over the end product to be had for things to go any other way.

I'm sure the headlines will read something like:
"How A.I. Art Helps Marginalized Voices Tell Their Stories."
"The Not Too Surprising Link Between The Anti-A.I. Movement And white Supremacy."
"The Queer Origins Of A.I. Art."

Oh and you can bet the more powerful and useful programs which employ A.I. become the greater the push to deprive private citizens of them will be. It'll be particularly amusing to see activist and politicians demanding "common sense A.I. control" when that day comes.

God I hate how gay the future is turning out to be.

 

[Str8Bustah]

no idea if this has been brought up at all but what makes the seething even more incessant is the fact that I can guarantee you every single one of the artists complaining about AI stealing their work uses uncredited 'reference' whenever they work on something.

Whenever I draw something, for example, the first thing I do is go on pinterest and compile pictures that other people have made, look for any shapes I like in the photos and then either draw them by eye or trace them depending on how lazy I feel, then I use those shapes to make something 'new'.

The only difference with what I'm doing and what AI is doing is that everyone knows it does this, whereas most artists will try and pretend that they don't. it's extremely pathetic behaviour.