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BlueSky, Tumblr, and Furries: *clap clap clap clap*
AI: *allows people to make art NOW, NOW, NOW*

Bluesky, Tumblr, Furries: AI BAD! AI SLOP! AI SOULLESS! AI THIEF! AI EVIL! AI STEAL MUH JOB!


Also Bluesky, Tumblr, Furries: Why aren't you done with Chapter 10794206982314492937329292993939292 of Ching Chong Ching? Why isn't my diaper scat cub futanari furry art commission done yet? How dare you cancel that indie game you were working on because you can't hire artists and programmers? Give us content NOW, NOW, NOW!!!!


Jesus Christ, make up your fucking mind, art community.




no idea if this was posted before. But you can't hate AI detractor enough
I posted it here and God it just makes me sad seeing how cruel some people are. They act exactly like the Nazis in Hitler's germany who went "JEWISH NOSE" when they see a human being with a nose that curves downwards. Progressive, right?




I wonder wh you find the hate a form of weakness.
My point was basically if they see something that doesn't appeal to them, they get so upset and crumble, when sometimes, it's the unique that could save them. If they were all so creative, why can't they utilize the different art styles, combine them, and the like to make even Corporate Memphis look more appealing? That would be a good way to counter the boo hoo evil AI SLOP- unique art styles - because all those idiots tend to draw is fox-eyed or bug-eyed curvaceous anime girls, which the AI has ease in copying. Then, when someone uses AI to help them with art, since it's not their typical way of doing art, of course, they act like someone has murdered their whole family.
 
There were rom sites with English text? Not some fucking moon rune asian shit or russian?
ROM sites with English text were the norm in the 00s. Some Pokémon fansites hosted Pokémon ROMs while a Sailor Moon website hosted ROMs of Sailor Moon… and Super Mario World. In fact, I got GBA ROMs from an English-language ROM news ite, and I think tha the multi-language ROM Reactor website was from Deutschland.

Back on topic, I crosspos this:
Offtopic of AI spergery, but this video appeared in my feed, and if anyone is still on the fence about "AI art isn't good/hasn't gotten better" yet, this video is living proof that there is an art Renaissance on the horizon should it finally prosper and to be welded by those who actually have an idea to communicate.
Not even a year or two ago, AI could barely output comprehensive video, now it can output videos like this? I don't know how you couldn't be excited for the future (assuming TPTB doesn't fuck with progress which they might).
 
I come to this conclusion that 'artist' and I mean those of the skill level of those found on twitter tumblr. It' s a easy job.. no real mental skill or physical endurance is needed.. they don't really have any consequence for not delivering especially on twitter or tumblr. So this 'profession' attract all the idiot and lazy cunt who want easy money without any real effort. So when competition appear(which is far from new) they lose their shit and begin to fling their shit at it
 
There's a new LoRA on Civitai for Wan video for creating Stunning and Brave characters...the character looks somewhat familiar :story:








Wonder if it will last. The comments section is ON BOARD

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Context: Jerry is a rather popul artist who specialises in SFW Digimon and Pokémon art (even thoug he a times does a bait and switch). You probably saw his Dragon Dancing Charizard Brothers animation.
Jerry said:
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I was wondering if I’d make the list - sadly, it was not a list for potential employment.

It’s been brought to my attention by many friends that there are people out there using my art and characters in machine learning (AI). Absolutely all of these were uploaded without my knowledge.

Let me clarify once and for all: I do not consent to ANY of my characters or art, past present and future being used in AI. If you have used or uploaded my art in any genAI form: please stop.

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You do not have my permission. I have reported to the sites from the screenshots, and will continue to do so if I see them on similar sites.

Here is just a sample of the replies:
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A few othe replies brought up these links:
https://civitai.com/models/1379471/dahecksajerry-style (pre-broken)
https://civitai.com/models/897495/dahecksajerry-art-style-nai-xl (NSFW though partially archived)
 
Guy posted this on twitter a few days ago.
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Obviously the typical troglodytes come out in force considering 17k likes. Typical kys shit, the type of originality that you might expect from AI slop maybe? I just find it funny because half of the quote tweets are saying damn first actually male Astolfo and it's fucking AI. The other half are just like damn AI's really good nowadays. Inside you there are two wolves, one of them has been socially groomed into hating AI, the other wants to goon over an actually male depiction of a male character. You do not need to worry about the wolves inside of you I am booting up sdxl to depict them as mpreg pregnanted. I love how everyone says AI is unoriginal and shit and then this post comes around and everyone agrees that the concept of a male character being male is so original that only AI has ever fucking done it.

I could include some of the better posts in the quotes. I don't need to. Faggot ass gooner says it all.
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Also I just wanted to include this because honestly AI has always been good at like horror shit and I hate this.

It's kinda goofy creepypasta shit but there's a reason that sort of stuff stuck around.
 
Context: Jerry is a rather popul artist who specialises in SFW Digimon and Pokémon art (even thoug he a times does a bait and switch). You probably saw his Dragon Dancing Charizard Brothers animation.
https://bsky.app/profile/dahecksajerry.bsky.social/post/3lwr6n4rghk2g https://archive.ph/DgJ2U
are they retarded? An AI algorithm would just pick the officlial digimon art and get the same result. This twat can put as much protective filler it won't do anything becuase he dosen't have any originality
 
are they retarded? An AI algorithm would just pick the officlial digimon art and get the same result. This twat can put as much protective filler it won't do anything becuase he dosen't have any originality
Compare to the clearly anime style that Digimon oramally has, Jerry' style is, while Animesque, significantly distinctive that is apparent even wit his original art.
 
Gonna clitty leak right now about how annoying it is to use AI video generation. Fucking thing can’t comprehend 90% of all human actions, for example it can’t make a subject throw an object directly at the camera and shatter it.
t. ai generated some gigas
 
no idea if this was posted before. But you can't hate AI detractor enough


The proposed solution to this "problem" is one of the only points where I think this video falls apart. Labeling or categorizing Art created by AI or AI assistance as separate to human only art isn't even a good compromise either. Imagine if art enjoyers based their entire opinion on a photograph based on whether it was shot on film or on a digital camera. The only reason photography vlog/tutorial/blogs classify digital and analog photography as separate is due to the process of creating the image, the language we use, the post-processing, etc. These are really only things the artist cares about, the audience only cares about the finished product; something actors have understood since incarnation. Why do you think they rehearse until their voices are coarse and hardened for three to four shows a weekend day? Artists choosing AI to assist in the process of creation is no different than an artist choosing digital or film, paint brands, clay brands, the list goes on. Antis need to realize eventually that this tech is not going anywhere, artists are a victim of their own business mediocrity (Business minded artists are the 99% successful). Even the biggest names in art pre-AI boom, Damien Hirst, uses a fleet of studio techs to make his dot paintings. AI is the small artist's fleet of studio techs allowing the finished work to be 80% finished so the artist can focus 110% of their energy in the last 21%.
 
...rather late, but BlueSky is dilating over Nightshade being free.

Nightshade, the free tool that 'poisons' AI models, is now available for artists to use​

Carl Franzen
January 19, 2024

It's here: months after it was first announced, Nightshade, a new, free software tool allowing artists to "poison" AI models seeking to train on their works, is now available for artists to download and use on any artworks they see fit.

Developed by computer scientists on the Glaze Project at the University of Chicago under Professor Ben Zhao, the tool essentially works by turning AI against AI. It makes use of the popular open-source machine learning framework PyTorch to identify what's in a given image, then applies a tag that subtly alters the image at the pixel level so other AI programs see something totally different than what's actually there.

It's the second such tool from the team: nearly one year ago, the team unveiled Glaze, a separate program designed to alter digital artwork at a user's behest to confuse AI training algorithms into thinking the image has a different style than what is actually present (such as different colors and brush strokes than are really there).

But whereas the Chicago team designed Glaze to be a defensive tool — and still recommends artists use it in addition to Nightshade to prevent an artist's style from being imitated by AI models — Nightshade is designed to be "an offensive tool."

An AI model that ended up training on many images altered or "shaded" with Nightshade would likely erroneously categorize objects going forward for all users of that model, even in images that had not been shaded with Nightshade.

"For example, human eyes might see a shaded image of a cow in a green field largely unchanged, but an AI model might see a large leather purse lying in the grass," the team further explains.

Therefore, an AI model trained on images of a cow shaded to look like a purse would start to generate purses instead of cows, even when the user asked for the model to make a picture of a cow.

Requirements and how Nightshade works​

Artists seeking to use Nightshade must have a Mac with Apple chips inside (M1, M2 or M3) or a PC running Windows 10 or 11. The tool can be downloaded for both OSes here. The Windows file also is capable of running on a PC's GPU, provided it is one from Nvidia on this list of supported hardware.

Some users have also reported long download times due to the overwhelming demand for the tool — as long as eight hours in some cases (the two versions are 255MB and 2.6GB in size for Mac and PC, respectively.

Users must also agree to the Glaze/Nightshade team's end-user license agreement (EULA), which stipulates they use the tool on machines under their control and don't modify the underlying source code, nor "Reproduce, copy, distribute, resell or otherwise use the Software for any commercial purpose."

Nightshade v1.0 "transforms images into 'poison' samples, so that [AI] models training on them without consent will see their models learn unpredictable behaviors that deviate from expected norms, e.g. a prompt that asks for an image of a cow flying in space might instead get an image of a handbag floating in space," states a blog post from the development team on its website.

That is, by using Nightshade v 1.0 to "shade" an image, the image will be transformed into a new version thanks to open-source AI libraries — ideally subtly enough so that it doesn't look much different to the human eye, but that it appears to contain totally different subjects to any AI models training on it.

In addition, the tool is resilient to most of the typical transformations and alterations a user or viewer might make to an image. As the team explains:

"You can crop it, resample it, compress it, smooth out pixels, or add noise, and the effects of the poison will remain. You can take screenshots, or even photos of an image displayed on a monitor, and the shade effects remain. Again, this is because it is not a watermark or hidden message (steganography), and it is not brittle."

Applause and condemnation​

While some artists have rushed to download Nightshade v1.0 and are already making use of it — among them, Kelly McKernan, one of the former lead artist plaintiffs in the ongoing class-action copyright infringement lawsuit against AI art and video generator companies Midjourney, DeviantArt, Runway, and Stability AI — some web users have complained about it, suggesting it is tantamount to a cyberattack on AI models and companies. (VentureBeat uses Midjourney and other AI image generators to create article header artwork.)

The Glaze/Nightshade team, for its part, denies it is seeking destructive ends, writing:"Nightshade's goal is not to break models, but to increase the cost of training on unlicensed data, such that licensing images from their creators becomes a viable alternative."

In other words, the creators are seeking to make it so that AI model developers must pay artists to train on data from them that is uncorrupted.

The latest front in the fast-moving fight over data scraping​

How did we get here? It all comes down to how AI image generators have been trained: by scraping data from across the web, including scraping original artworks posted by artists who had no prior express knowledge nor decision-making power about this practice, and say the resulting AI models trained on their works threatens their livelihood by competing with them.

As VentureBeat has reported, data scraping involves letting simple programs called "bots" scour the internet and copy and transform data from public facing websites into other formats that are helpful to the person or entity doing the scraping.

It's been a common practice on the internet and used frequently prior to the advent of generative AI, and is roughly the same technique used by Google and Bing to crawl and index websites in search results.

But it has come under new scrutiny from artists, authors, and creatives who object to their work being used without their express permission to train commercial AI models that may compete with or replace their work product.

AI model makers defend the practice as not only necessary to train their creations, but as lawful under "fair use," the legal doctrine in the U.S. that states prior work may be used in new work if it is transformed and used for a new purpose.

Though AI companies such as OpenAI have introduced "opt-out" code that objectors can add to their websites to avoid being scraped for AI training, the Glaze/Nightshade team notes that "Opt-out lists have been disregarded by model trainers in the past, and can be easily ignored with zero consequences. They are unverifiable and unenforceable, and those who violate opt-out lists and do-not-scrape directives can not be identified with high confidence."

Nightshade, then, was conceived and designed as a tool to "address this power asymmetry."

The team further explains their end goal:

"Used responsibly, Nightshade can help deter model trainers who disregard copyrights, opt-out lists, and do-not-scrape/robots.txt directives. It does not rely on the kindness of model trainers, but instead associates a small incremental price on each piece of data scraped and trained without authorization."

Basically: make widespread data scraping more costly to AI model makers, and make them think twice about doing it, and thereby have them consider pursuing licensing agreements with human artists as a more viable alternative.

Of course, Nightshade is not able to reverse the flow of time: any artworks scraped prior to being shaded by the tool were still used to train AI models, and shading them now may impact the model's efficacy going forward, but only if those images are re-scraped and used again to train an updated version of an AI image generator model.

There is also nothing on a technical level stopping someone from using Nightshade to shade AI-generated artwork or artwork they did not create, opening the door to potential abuses.
 
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