AI Art Seething General

[AnOminous]

Eventually they will make it easy enough that any graphic designer can do a couple weeks of training on how to integrate new AI tools into their existing workflow, and then the "prompt engineers' will be obsolete.

This seething is like when Sony tried to get rid of VCRs because people being able to watch something whenever they wanted would somehow destroy all media.

 

[Mikoyan]

This seething is like when Sony tried to get rid of VCRs because people being able to watch something whenever they wanted would somehow destroy all media.

Are you thinking of the Betamax case? Because - I know hard to believe considering how Sony is these days - that was the other way 'round.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Th is les 'seething' and more 'only real artists should be allowed to use AI art programmes'.

What worries me the most is his talking about how manga nd webtoon artists resor to AI because of their yotta-tight (not merely zetta-tight) deadlines. He specifically mentions that webtoons need to pump out a strip every week.

 

[AnOminous]

Are you thinking of the Betamax case? Because - I know hard to believe considering how Sony is these days - that was the other way 'round.

Yeah I mixed up the parties. The emulator case Sony v. Connectix would be a better example (well an actual example) of Sony being the bad guy, but the movie/music etc. industry in general was claiming they were utterly dying because of VCRs, cassettes, etc.

 

[Dunkin DoNUT]

Th is les 'seething' and more 'only real artists should be allowed to use AI art programmes'.

What worries me the most is his talking about how manga nd webtoon artists resor to AI because of their yotta-tight (not merely zetta-tight) deadlines. He specifically mentions that webtoons need to pump out a strip every week.

Oh right, this furfag. I agree with his takes on most of the shit webtoon he tears apart. Though, the weeb ai generated webtoon about the girl MC being angry at the photographer is kinda eh.

 

[Jeb Bush]

I'm usually defending the artists here, but this has to be the most retarded anti-AI take I've seen so far:

TLDR: If licensed/copyright free data used to train a model, includes any AI text/images generated using a model where the text/images weren't properly licensed/copyright free, it should all be bad and illegal - despite the fact no AI generated text/images can be copyrighted.

I probably don't need to explain, why this is total copyright lunacy.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm usually defending the artists here, but this has to be the most retarded anti-AI take I've seen so far:
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TLDR: If licensed/copyright free data used to train a model, includes any AI text/images generated using a model where the text/images weren't properly licensed/copyright free, it should all be bad and illegal - despite the fact no AI generated text/images can be copyrighted.

I probably don't need to explain, why this is total copyright lunacy.

I like how no matter what these seething retards do, AI is going nowhere and they will still be seething on their deathbeds.

I gotcher "right side of history" RIGHT HERE.

 

[linchan]

I'm usually defending the artists here, but this has to be the most retarded anti-AI take I've seen so far:
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TLDR: If licensed/copyright free data used to train a model, includes any AI text/images generated using a model where the text/images weren't properly licensed/copyright free, it should all be bad and illegal - despite the fact no AI generated text/images can be copyrighted.

I probably don't need to explain, why this is total copyright lunacy.

Every other week the same people who reeee's about AI violating copyright, will protest companies like Nintendo using it against fan projects the very same week.

 

[Waifuwars]

Sure it might make sense why an artist might have an issue with their art being used to train AI without their consent, but I think the moment you post your artwork on the Internet is the moment you give up a portion of your control. I often see artists on X with "don't download my work without my permission " or something similar in their bio and have a good chuckle. They want fame and recognition without any of the risks of putting your work out there. You can't eat your cake and have it too.

I would much rather have my art be incorporated into an AI's data set than having some chink print it onto tshirts and shit to sell on AliExpress. But then again, most artists are narcissistic egoists so such critical thinking is beyond them.

 

[macrodegenerate]

Real human artists have told me that bitterness and hatred are not a good source of creative energy, and that anything produced with them will always be lesser than something made out of love because of the inherent negativity of hatred.
But I suppose since those emotions are coming from real humans, anything goes.

"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own." -Tolkien

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

Every other week the same people who reeee's about AI violating copyright, will protest companies like Nintendo using it against fan projects the very same week.

I would probably have more respect for them if they just laid out the idea that they think corporate entities should have less control over intellectual properties than individuals do with their own creations and didn't flip-flop between treating copyright as a protective tool and bemoaning when it was used as a bludgeon against small creators. I don't know if I'd agree, but it'd be more honest.

 

[linchan]

Sure it might make sense why an artist might have an issue with their art being used to train AI without their consent, but I think the moment you post your artwork on the Internet is the moment you give up a portion of your control. I often see artists on X with "don't download my work without my permission " or something similar in their bio and have a good chuckle. They want fame and recognition without any of the risks of putting your work out there. You can't eat your cake and have it too.

They also tend to be the same fucking people who made fun of NFT for the same thing just less than two years ago.

 

[GratsTheat783]

One method of using AI to help with art is to put a drawing you made into the img2img section and try to see how the AI redoes it. It can give good ideas of how to improve.

 

[GunCar Gary]

One method of using AI to help with art is to put a drawing you made into the img2img section and try to see how the AI redoes it. It can give good ideas of how to improve.

good tip. it worked great, thanks

 

[AnOminous]

Every other week the same people who reeee's about AI violating copyright, will protest companies like Nintendo using it against fan projects the very same week.

I bet half of these seething idiots exclusively draw repulsive porn of copyrighted characters, sometimes lifting their models directly from screen captures of the actual shows.

I would much rather have my art be incorporated into an AI's data set than having some chink print it onto tshirts and shit to sell on AliExpress. But then again, most artists are narcissistic egoists so such critical thinking is beyond them.

The training model doesn't contain any of the actual art, just rules derived from examining it. It's hard to imagine how it could be more transformative. There's no way of extracting the art used to create the data set from the data set itself, because it isn't in there.

 

[Catgirl Fornicator]

2. Evil rightoids will make art without being gatekept. Destroying their political sway

So they have to ree as hard as possible to try and get it illegalized before normies catch on too fast.

Tbh its not like drawing was ever truly gatekept anyway. Anyone with two hands can attempt it.

Ai art is definitely improving. You can generate songs with custom lyrics now + instruments. So perhaps music is another source of anti-AI lolcows. Though the tracks are under 2 minutes, the vocals don't keep the tempo the whole time, and it will slur words often.

 

[Toolbox]

Tbh its not like drawing was ever truly gatekept anyway. Anyone with two hands can attempt it.

Ai art is definitely improving. You can generate songs with custom lyrics now + instruments. So perhaps music is another source of anti-AI lolcows. Though the tracks are under 2 minutes, the vocals don't keep the tempo the whole time, and it will slur words often.

The most interesting and telling thing for me concerning ai art is the fact I don't recall nearly the amount of sperging against language/writing ais when they were first made popular through models like the first iteration of AI dungeon. People had their fun with these, continued to, and eventually they were improved to the point to pretty convincingly write like a human and to even spread into other tasks like programming. There never appeared to be any outbursts from novel writers, poets, or even really journos until ais like chatgpt were used to do a heckin racism, and then the most that occurred was some lackluster censorship. Even then I never really saw any sperging about IP or copyright law brought into the picture. Only when twitter artists began to realize they could too be replaced when image models went from generating blurry clipart to being able to basically do whatever you want through a sentence or two was there any large kerfuffle. I do wonder how it'll be for music. I doubt there will be nearly as much milk to be had.

Edit: there was also the drama when AI dungeon got censored and lobotomized as a consequence, but that was in reaction to degens being degens, again not relating to IP, and it was pretty quiet, and people just jumped to the next model.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I bet half of these seething idiots exclusively draw repulsive porn of copyrighted characters, sometimes lifting their models directly from screen captures of the actual shows.

There are literally tutorials on the internet telling prospective smut artists to watch porn and take screencaps of interesting positions. Who needs to learn anatomy when you can "learn it" one-handed?

 

[Fields Of Rye]

There are literally tutorials on the internet telling prospective smut artists to watch porn and take screencaps of interesting positions. Who needs to learn anatomy when you can "learn it" one-handed?

Porn is “useful” for learning anatomy because it’s free and you can use electronic devices. The anatomy porn niggas are interested in learning can’t be found in routine figure drawing, since artist usually want circus freaks and you are almost never allowed to use digital tablets (which all porn artists are suckled too).

I will add as someone who watched the art hoes melt down in real time, the funniest part is that overwhelmingly artists are still not digitally trained, so some of the time you hear someone complaining it’s a highly skilled, professionally trained wood carver unknowingly arguing on behalf of furry pornographers.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

Philistine that I am, I'd probably legit watch a full feature of this.

Or this:

I haven't even heard of them getting much pushback.