AI Art Seething General

[lolcow yoghurt]

I don't understand why these anti AI art people act like picking up art is the easiest thing in the world. a huge money drainer constantly having to buy pens, pencils, paper, sketchbooks etc. Digital art can be expensive as fuck too having to pay for brushes or programs randomly that decided they were going to have a subscription service to use. I have been drawing for a long time and I was only to draw a car that looks like a 3 dimensional car as recent as two years ago (2021). Not everyone has the time to put into learning this skill. Yeah you have a lot of resources' but still.....

AI art kills artists. If you use it once, a digital artist dies due to starvation. Got it?

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

I like Corridor Crew, but this 'we've democratized animation, and made it available for everyone' is bullshit. Nigga, animation is already democratized, all you need is a pencil/pen and paper. Don Hertzfeldt made his career on animating just using pen on paper, and Japan still animates on it (paint and ink are done digitally). Niko talks about animators like they are some secret elite society keeping these skills away from the common man. Which doesn't make sense since they have animators on their channel all the time, they even had fucking Tom Bancroft on. And to top it all off, Niko says you too can make your own 'anime' using Corridor Digitals process, but only if you buy a subscription! (so much for democratizing animation).

As I've said before in this thread, people that talk about 'democratized art' just want something without putting the work in, which is ok, fine. But it's weird coming Corridor Crew, as they go out of their way to show how much work and skill goes into VFX.

The actual process and end result looks interesting, and using 3D renders and applying a style filter in stable diffusion seems like a great time saver for animation backgrounds.
Though I wonder if EB Synth would've gotten better results for the actual 'animation'.

To all the artists and animators on Twatter that are overreacting to this video, if you're threatened by THIS:

Then maybe you should put down the pencil/stylus.

AI can be a great tool for artists, I can't wait for a tool that will auto colour all the frames in my timeline based off a finished frame.

 

[Scavenger]

I like Corridor Crew, but this 'we've democratized animation, and made it available for everyone' is bullshit. Nigga, animation is already democratized, all you need is a pencil/pen and paper. Don Hertzfeldt made his career on animating just using pen on paper, and Japan still animates on it (paint and ink are done digitally). Niko talks about animators like they are some secret elite society keeping these skills away from the common man. Which doesn't make sense since they have animators on their channel all the time, they even had fucking Tom Bancroft on. And to top it all off, Niko says you too can make your own 'anime' using Corridor Digitals process, but only if you buy a subscription! (so much for democratizing animation).

As I've said before in this thread, people that talk about 'democratized art' just want something without putting the work in, which is ok, fine. But it's weird coming Corridor Crew, as they go out of their way to show how much work and skill goes into VFX.

The actual process and end result looks interesting, and using 3D renders and applying a style filter in stable diffusion seems like a great time saver for animation backgrounds.
Though I wonder if EB Synth would've gotten better results for the actual 'animation'.

To all the artists and animators on Twatter that are overreacting to this video, if you're threatened by THIS:
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Then maybe you should put down the pencil/stylus.

AI can be a great tool for artists, I can't wait for a tool that will auto colour all the frames in my timeline based off a finished frame.

It looks alright of course they could of put in the extra work into just fixing or deleting out right the frames needed to animate.
I'm pretty sure the rotoscoping has been used both in anime and western animation the whole adding a ai filter is just an extra step.
It looks more like the Castlevania anime tbh

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

It looks alright of course they could of put in the extra work into just fixing or deleting out right the frames needed to animate.
I'm pretty sure the rotoscoping has been used both in anime and western animation the whole adding a ai filter is just an extra step.
It looks more like the Castlevania anime tbh

They could've actually nailed down the Vampire Hunter D look better if they rotoscoped Niko and Dean (and maaaaybeeee it would've taken less time, not sure how much clean up there would be to fix the really jank renders and doing all the After Effect image processing). I think rotoscoping gets a bad rap, it can be a good time saver and looks great when done well.

 

[Scavenger]

The irony is that they could've done this with less steps and actually nail down the Vampire Hunter D look if they rotoscoped Niko and Dean. I think rotoscoping gets a bad rap, it can be a good time saver and looks great when done well.

I think they should of fixed afew bits of ai autism but to me it felt more experiemental and could of been left more in the oven to solve the imprefections
I think rotoscoping has been both used for comedic effect (in smiling friends) and horror games like in Faith

They even used scenes from Predator and other 1980s movies.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

I think they should of fixed afew bits of ai autism but to me it felt more experiemental and could of been left more in the oven to solve the imprefections
I think rotoscoping has been both used for comedic effect (in smiling friends) and horror games like in Faith

They even used scenes from Predator and other 1980s movies.

Another issue with this new type of AI animation method is you are more limited on what you can 'animate' based on what your actors can perform and do in on camera. Wanna make a superhero cartoon using AI animation, you gotta either wire people up, or bust out 3D models and animate them. Either way, just have to wait and see where it goes next.

 

[linchan]

Another issue with this new type of AI animation method is you are more limited on what you can 'animate' based on what your actors can perform and do in on camera. Wanna make a superhero cartoon using AI animation, you gotta either wire people up, or bust out 3D models and animate them. Either way, just have to wait and see where it goes next.

I'm pretty sure in practice the industry will do a mixed media approach, and use AI filters or hand made animation depending on which fits better. Using AI filters for subtle facial motion and hand drawn for physics defying action scenes. AI filters not being able to express out-there motion isn't an indictment of the technology, there is a reason the video used a fairly simple premise. Just another tool for the creative arsenal.

 

[Whatevermancer]

To all the artists and animators on Twatter that are overreacting to this video, if you're threatened by THIS:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: you shouldn't be threatened by current iteration of this tech, but rather what comes after it. Imagine a text-to-video AI, that can generate footage with coherent frames being provided a textual description and several images/videos as samples.

 

[Monkey Pink]

Are Ortiz, Palmer, and Crudo still tweeting about AI art to the point of obsession and mental derangement? I know TreviLeo or whoever is, but I haven't followed the drama past the lawsuit and copyright stuff, because nothing has really happened with those.

 

[SpinelessArtist]

I learned that the hard way

With the advent of AI and younger generations knowing how to draw better then we were as kids.
I'm honestly gonna miss cringing at early 2010s deviantart tier shitty art.

Same. For me the best kind of art is amateur, shitty art. It just has some genuine essence to it.

At the same time, where there is cringy people, there will be cringy content. Stupid people have existed and will continue to exist millenia from now, so this kind of content will just evolve with us. The descendants of these 2010 artists are the tik tokers/twitter spergs you see today. And madness never manages to run out in recent years.

Hopefully, even with AI, kids in the future will still have the urge to pick up a pencil and create. Even if a sketch of a character they like.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

I don't understand why these anti AI art people act like picking up art is the easiest thing in the world. a huge money drainer constantly having to buy pens, pencils, paper, sketchbooks etc. Digital art can be expensive as fuck too having to pay for brushes or programs randomly that decided they were going to have a subscription service to use.

Digital art is leagues cheaper than traditional art. You have initial costs such as a tablet and a computer, but with the internet, everything else is free. Pirating gives you that free art software and brushes. People who pay for subscriptions just don't know how to pirate (you don't need a live subscription to have access to Photoshop's neural AI). Hell, you can even make your own brushes. Traditional art is expensive as you run out of materials eventually and every canvas you paint costs you money. Digital art has none of these limitations. You can even use colors digitally that do not exist in the traditional art world. Digital art is easier to do than traditional art when it comes to painting. You don't have to mix colors; they're available right on screen. You can pick any color you want immediately, which means a faster and more accurate translation process from your mind to the canvas. A reason why so many traditional artists use references for the colors and shading is because it's hard to envision what it looks like when you don't have every single color available right there to grab from. With digital art, you do. You can keep slapping different colors until one works. That will eat into your traditional art materials quickly. At ~$15 a tube, paint waste matters.

 

[DemeaningCroc1337]

The thing I hate about AI art is that retards seem to think it gives them an excuse to spam completely unrelated pictures into genres without even trying.
The worst part about it is that they behave like complete cunts when you tell them to stop.

Personally I am neutral to AI art, I just do not like the retards using it.
I have seen it used in games, and the pictures have lots of consistency issues.
I have also seen some people use AI really well by blending it with 3d.

 

[Catgirls are Love]

The thing I hate about AI art is that retards seem to think it gives them an excuse to spam completely unrelated pictures into genres without even trying.
The worst part about it is that they behave like complete cunts when you tell them to stop.

Personally I am neutral to AI art, I just do not like the retards using it.
I have seen it used in games, and the pictures have lots of consistency issues.
I have also seen some people use AI really well by blending it with 3d.

People are often lazy and AI art enables that laziness to a degree unlike before. With lots of time and experimentation, you can get pretty good images out of models but there's often little flaws and quirks that make it obvious to anyone familiar with the software that the image is entirely computer generated, but that's not even considering the often very large flaws that many don't bother attempting to fix and just upload the image as is. Taking just a few minutes in Photoshop to touch up an image and fix oddities is apparently asking for way too much from the average imbecile pumping out endless renders of the same boring (usually fat and naked) character that has three legs roughly as often as they don't.

 

[SanicBlackMagic]

This entire song was written by an AI, and this was in 2020, it's coming even further, we even have AI that can deepfake voices live, just give it another year or two and we'll start seeing Dall-E at home

Is there a bix nood translating AI we could use to understand what its warbling about?

 

[Anti pedo]

okay is it just me or that most people that bitch about ai art are mostly 2d artist i never seen 3d artist bitch about ai involvement in helping their creative process but rather embracing it

Example:

 

[Hair and Nails]

Because 3d isn’t threatened by AI… yet. AI generated textures and backgrounds are just workflow enhancing, they aren’t a total replacement for a proper 3d artist. For a 2d internet digital artist, the AI can do what they do, just slightly worse but faster and cheaper. AI can only make rough and simple 3d models with low poly count and poor topology; it is much more likely to be used to create comprehensive texturing tools or adding to maya, blender, substance painter et Al. The frameworks for those programs are going up as we speak.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Much like the pro/anti-urbanism debate, both sides of the pro/anti AI art debate have become increasingly polarized and autistic and it's just going to cause even more unnecessary drama and negative long-term impacts. Sure, there'll be more lolcows to point and laugh about but the fatigue is really starting to set in for me. AI can be an interesting tool for references, filters and whatnot but at the same time there's definitely just as much condescension and misanthropy coming from the pro-AI art corpo-techbro consoom types as there are egos and drama queens coming from the anti-AI art types. It's like I don't even want to engage anymore.

 

[linchan]

okay is it just me or that most people that bitch about ai art are mostly 2d artist i never seen 3d artist bitch about ai involvement in helping their creative process but rather embracing it

Example:

Because it is. Everyone in the field of CGI/SFX just had a massive boom in their technology. It's not like they don't want to pay for artists anymore, they probably didn't hire Artists to begin with, AI art just expanded their horizons.
Plus the field of 3D is more of a technology-centered work and not a skill-based one, which is what 2D animators largely are. People in 3D always try to make their workflow simple and efficient. 2D artists seek appreciation for their hard work. I bet your ass there are people in the field right now actively developing technology that will eventually replace them and they don't bat an eye about them.

 

[Anti pedo]

Because it is. Everyone in the field of CGI/SFX just had a massive boom in their technology. It's not like they don't want to pay for artists anymore, they probably didn't hire Artists to begin with, AI art just expanded their horizons.
Plus the field of 3D is more of a technology-centered work and not a skill-based one, which is what 2D animators largely are. People in 3D always try to make their workflow simple and efficient. 2D artists seek appreciation for their hard work. I bet your ass there are people in the field right now actively developing technology that will eventually replace them and they don't bat an eye about them.

(warning potential powerlevel and sperging)

It got me thinking why those 2d twatter artist never try to expand their horizon and try blender? its one of the most accessible 3d software out there,
and 3d art is a lot more flexible to be used in other medium besides films for example:
1. video games
2. 3d printing
3. architecture design
4. machine design

Heck if they do not want a realistic approach, 3d art can be stylized. I guess it invalidated their "3D art is a soulless corporate product" narrative.

Besides mixing 2D and 3D makes cool stuff like iron giant and spiderman into the spiderveverse.

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

(warning potential powerlevel and sperging)

It got me thinking why those 2d twatter artist never try to expand their horizon and try blender? its one of the most accessible 3d software out there,
and 3d art is a lot more flexible to be used in other medium besides films for example:
1. video games
2. 3d printing
3. architecture design
4. machine design

Heck if they do not want a realistic approach, 3d art can be stylized. I guess it invalidated their "3D art is a soulless corporate product" narrative.

Besides mixing 2D and 3D makes cool stuff like iron giant and spiderman into the spiderveverse.

3D has a steep learning curve compared to things like digital art. It's also got a visual look that isn't always conducive to a good art piece. If 2D artists were interested in doing 3D art, they would be doing it by now.