Plenty of 2d artists have embraced 3d software, especially concept artists. The best concept artists in the world are using 3d software in their workflow. The 3d renders don't need to look like a work of art because they don't need to be the final product. They usually just serve as a base to paint over in Photoshop.
I don't care if 'plenty of artists' have embraced it. The majority of 2d artists have not. The best concept artists in the world are still 2d artists--fashion designers and movie character designers. ALL of those designs start off in 2D. And who cares if concept artists use 3D? The majority will be embrace AI (2D art) or be replaced by it.
The majority of 2d artists are unemployed or working at Starbucks.
Majority of artists, 2D, 3D, and otherwise, are not working career artist work. That doesn't change the point...
The smart 2D artists will figure out a way to feed AI art into their pipeline and elevate their work with it. Much like science, all art is done on the shoulders of giants. AI simply automates the task of drawing inspiration from other artists and instead allows you to draw inspiration from every artist you can feed into the model all at once. But it's far from perfect and there's plenty of room left for human hands to come in and refine the output into a better end product.
The time to do it was in the past 20 years for digital work. AI encouraged me to switch back to traditional art. It's taught me that working digitally really is better for aspiring artists--you can learn anatomy and color theory without having to worry about mixing colors and erasing and all of that. Once you're a good artist digitally, those skills translate so well into traditional it's insane. I'm having more fun doing shit traditionally. The problem with that is that most youth artists of today do digital art and don't know how to reach out to real people outside of the internet. They thrive on likes, retweets of their art for affirmation. People IRL aren't going to give that sort of dopamine hit.
Not exactly, some people grapple with 3D easier than 2D. They are separate disciplines. Yes, the rules of aesthetics and 12 rules of animations translate between the mediums, but its easier said than done considering how these two mediums usually are done using completely different software. With 3D you have to know topology, with 2D you don't need to know that. With 2D you need to know perspective and foreshortening, with 3D that is already calculated for you by the nature of computer graphics.
On the topic of techbros, I remember reading a comment somewhere by one of those guys that went something to the effect of "All artists will switch to AI eventually, no one will care about handmade art besides a few people, and they'll secretly use AI too". I found this funny for several reasons, but the real noteworthy thing is that the pro and anti AI art camps see eye to eye on very little things, right down to what art even means.
This. I know I'm so unimaginably fucking late to this, but I've kinda realized that the guy who submitted his artwork in that chicago art contest or whatever shouldn't have done so. Not because it didn't require "real work" or that it's not "real art," but that it's the equivalent of submitting a well editted photograph to a drawing contest.
But all of those who truly want it will make the time for it. With the right mindset, it can be effortless.
Digital is the worst medium for beginners. It’s a lot easier to learn to sculpt clay with some drawing experience, than the lunatics who are too afraid to pick up a pencil to develop a concept a bit first to just noodle away on digital clay for hours without making much progress.
i use Stable Diffusions img2img to develop concepts from my rough works in progress, its particularly useful for texture and fine detail ideas. It seems to be “garbage in, garbage out” when you make it adhere closer to the source image. If the source’s lighting doesn’t make sense, then the output will have those same issues.
I say it's the best medium for beginners, because it only costs the price of a tablet ($15 for the shittiest, but it still works) and time to pirate software. You can make all the mistakes in the world and it won't cost you a dime. The fundamentals of anatomy can be learned the same both traditionally and digitally. You can learn value, shading, texture, rendering, etc all digitally. Those skills DO translate traditionally. The only thing that doesn't is technique (unless you paint all on one layer digitally). You'll have to learn how to mix color (not that hard, it's a 20 min youtube video) if you don't want to spend big bux on good paint--and you DO want to buy good paint, not shit paint, because color theory is harder to master mixing if you're working with hues and shitton of fillers instead of pigments. You'll have to learn how to mix mediums. But all of your other skills will transfer naturally from digital to traditional painting. Source: Self. I bought a graphic tablet 20 years ago for $15, upgraded to a $200 in 2018. Haven't spent a dime on anything else. Started doing traditional artwork, I've already spent over $500 for the paints and tools I wanted, and am looking at hefty prices in the future for canvas and new oils (Old Holland, Williamsburg, BlockX, etc). And then there's the health risks with using heavy metals like cadmium, manganese (yes I'm retarded enough to use it, but the mock color isn't as vibrant), cobalt, etc. Then the solvent exposure. Cleanup. Traditional is sort of the worst medium for someone with no money but a willingness to learn.
A part of the process is developing the idea from a rough sketch to a final one through multiple iterations, so all the problems are worked out over each iteration. nobody should want to use ctrl-z as a crutch. Learning digital first instills bad habits that can take a decade to unlearn, always.
Exactly, one can never get a painterly look if they never actually paint. It’ll look digital and sterile.
Student quality materials are not expensive. You might save money up front but you’ll waste time in the long run unlearning bad habits. Time is the most valuable resource ultimately.
Explain what these bad habits are. Because none of them have translated to my traditional work flow. CTRL-Z is not a crutch in the sketch phase lol. It's a quicker eraser. It may seem like a crutch for traditional, but you go over your mistake with paint. Takes less than 2 minutes. Not hard when you know how to mix color. CTRL-Z saves time, that is all.
I wanted the painterly look, but i started with digital first. I strived for years, but the only thing that let me achieve it was learning to actually paint. This was one of my bad habits. Another bad habit is digital doesn’t build line confidence, or the ability to visualize what your mark will be before you make it since undo is an always an option.
