AI Art Seething General

[Bunny Tracks]

You know, I used to feel bad for artists about this stuff. It must be pretty scary to see your work being replaced by a thing that can do it a lot faster than you, and for free.

And then I actually saw how much better the AI's art usually was compared to theirs, and how instead of bettering themselves, they just decided to complain on twitter, and then I stopped.

 

[GunCar Gary]

And then I actually saw how much better the AI's art usually was compared to theirs, and how instead of bettering themselves, they just decided to complain on twitter, and then I stopped.

many people have faced the "being replaced by technology" battle that artists are dealing with now, so i am empathetic with people watching their livelihoods crumble in front of them while other people cheer it on

the difference is that while most people are just working to make money and support their families, artists are also dealing with their egos being battered by this process. more important than losing money, AI tools are making it easy to steal the "art style" of artists, which artists see as an expression of their inner-most soul or some bullshit like that. the idea that they're not special and unique and won't be remembered for being the only who can make "their art" is causing all the screeching you see on social media

artists are also dealing with all of this coming as a complete shock. sure, it's easy to see how someone who types numbers into forms or does the same weld day after day would be replaced by machines, but since artists see themselves as so special and unique they had no idea they would be able to be replaced so quickly because technology can't replicate the care for art that they have. in some ways they're right, except the only people who care about that are other artists and this next generation of AI tools is improving. rapidly

since there are plenty of people who don't know or don't usually interact with ~artists~ this might come to a surprise when they start looking into the AI art topic, but anyone who knows any artists knows they're usually narcissistic idiots who have trouble functioning in the real world. this is also why ~current thing~ and troonism runs so rampant with artists as well

artists, furries, troons, current thing obsessers, "nuggie" enjoyers -- these groups of people are all cut from the same cloth. they're currently getting a rude awakening when it turns out you can increasingly skip past them if they're a pain in the ass and don't have rudimentary people skills

 

[linchan]

I've been browsing the AIWars subreddit, and I just realized that a vast majority of the Anti-AI posts on there are from one guy with a Genshin Impact PFP, who has recently been posting a bunch of hypothetical scenarios and polls portraying AI equivalent to theft.

https://archive.ph/MmgGj

https://archive.ph/DIfwp

https://archive.ph/EKUw6

In addition to this, he's been reporting his sightings to the ArtistHate Subreddit.

https://archive.ph/FtPRP

https://archive.ph/GeMpM

I think he's been mentioned on the thread before because he's the guy who has been pitching image alteration to obfuscate art being fed into a training set on this website.

https://rgbwatermark.net/

Can someone even report how effective this is? Because this looks outright worse than Glazing. I think artists using this for sample work is ironically going to hurt them more than AI will.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Can someone even report how effective this is? Because this looks outright worse than Glazing. I think artists using this for sample work is ironically going to hurt them more than AI will.

it looks like there are three methods the different options can be grouped into:
- watermarks
- just flat out making the image worse
- converting the image to a video or animated image (with the real image as the last frame), which automated processing tools have issues processing (for now)

if anti-AI video versions or rare file formats get too common then it's easy enough to add tools to work around those when batch processing images. and, of course, they'll never be able to beat someone using the screenshot tool if they really want the image

if we go back to that mp3 file sharing boom i mentioned before i wouldn't be surprised if these kind of people start trying to figure out how to make some kind of DRM image file format, which like you said will do nothing but make consuming their art more frustrating for all of their consumers and hurt them in the long run

 

[StandardGardenHoe]

r/DefendingAIArt is a nerd circlejerk, but I'm glad the community exists.

 

[linchan]

r/DefendingAIArt is a nerd circlejerk, but I'm glad the community exists.

I'm like sure 50% of the comments there are straight up AI generated if not AI-assisted.

 

[Colon capital V]

So the guy who's made that Foamy The Squirrel animations have started using AI art now, and Newground users are not happy about this. Doubly so since he's always featured on the front page of the site by P-Bot (a NG janny I assume?)

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/898284

Some comments:

 

[Coolio55]

So the guy who's made that Foamy The Squirrel animations have started using AI art now, and Newground users are not happy about this. Doubly so since he's always featured on the front page of the site by P-Bot (a NG janny I assume?)

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/898284

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The bg art is the least of this cartoon's worries. Fucking hell has the character artstyle degraded.
Also I'm *think* that p-bot is automated based on user views and votes but I'm not sure...

 

[linchan]

Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

 

[AnOminous]

Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

AI art doesn't threaten her job. So I guess that's okay.

 

[linchan]

AI art doesn't threaten her job. So I guess that's okay.

No, I think she genuinely did not know it was AI, she just thought it looked cool and paid for it, probably didn't even ask.
All this shows is the layman has difficulty distinguishing AI art and good art at first look.

 

[StandardGardenHoe]

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Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

Fun fact: the AI voice was based on Daphne's OG voice actress, it wasn't even Delisle's voice that was "stolen"!

Also I found an interesting thread in r/tattoos regarding AI mockups of tattoos translating to horrible tattoos when attempted IRL.

https://reddit.com/r/tattoos/s/radmRjh2Vs

 

[GunCar Gary]

All this shows is the layman has difficulty distinguishing AI art and good art at first look.

artists can tell when art has been AI generated...but normal people can't

AI art has the double benefit of being good enough for everyday people to like and pissing artists off whenever they see it

 

[umami's milk]

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Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

Lol I love how she was so adamant in the replies that she "paid a REAL ARTIST REAL MONEY for this REAL ART." even though the dude's handle is literally 'neuralemporium'

Suck it lady.

 

[Scavenger]

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Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

Certified women moment.
The springtrapped animation was pretty fun to watch

 

[AnOminous]

artists can tell when art has been AI generated...but normal people can't

I can tell when I actually put effort into it. AI text is a little more self evident but it now takes me a few paragraphs before it just becomes obvious. It used to be I could just instantly detect it.

It's definitely getting better and pretty fast. I really think we are possibly getting close to it approaching actual rather than artificial intelligence. At the moment, it is still artificial intelligence because it isn't actually intelligence, and can't really fool you if you put some effort into it.

Previously you had to put no effort into it at all, it was just obvious.

AI art has the double benefit of being good enough for everyday people to like and pissing artists off whenever they see it

It helps that current "art" is such absolute garbage that it is actually deliberately worse and uglier and less appealing and more soulless than what AI generates. Literally less soulless than what a machine can do, something with literally no soul at all. Current "art" has negative levels of soul to it.

Obligatory Corporate Memphis:

 

[ToroidalBoat]

All this shows is the layman has difficulty distinguishing AI art and good art at first look.

artists can tell when art has been AI generated...but normal people can't

If it takes a "professional artist" to distinguish professional art from AI art, is the difference more of a splitting hairs thing?

they are the most arrogant, pretentious dickheads who have such a high sense of self-importance

In the book "The Birds The Frogs" (IIRC), there's the claim that artists are usually (or was it always?) stupid, infantile, and egotistical.

I realized I may not be much of a fan of the typical modern art scene, or at least the typical modern Western one on deviantART.

They can overvalue art - like thinking works they make are like "children" - and can not take too kindly (to put it lightly) to mocking what they make. They can overthink what is or isn't art, and overvalue originality. And of course it seems they usually think of mere copying as "theft" or even worse. And it seems they're quite often fanatical and anal supporters of copyright: for example, a proposed "orphan works" part of copyright law caused a "gathering of the tribes" of artists to protest it. Also while being different isn't always bad, they can be TOO different in a freakish way. And of course there is the easy ego and elitism.

If AI makes NI*-made art a mere hobby that's not done for money, that could be a good thing, at least with deflating the ego.

*(natural intelligence)

 

[cybertoaster]

AI tools are making it easy to steal the "art style" of artists,

They steal the styles of other artists all the time, picasso even bragged about stealing.

it's easy to see how someone who types numbers into forms or does the same weld day after day would be replaced by machines

Turns out precision work is hard to replace. AI fucks up an excel sheet and the company loses billions. AI fucks up the fingers it some artwork and its no biggie, can photoshop it out or redo it with a LoRA for better hands.

As for physical labor I don't think we'll see handyman robots in our lifetimes, but artists are fucked and I'm glad since they were the first to cheer for automation thinking it would bring their, I shit you not, "luxury gay space communism".

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Grey Delisle, who previously threatened to blacklist an animator that used AI voice, gets finessed $650 with an AI generated art work.

How the fuck she didn't know? its even called "neuralemporium", also aren't they supposed to disclose if the art its made with AI?

artists can tell when art has been AI generated...but normal people can't

I can, its just a matter of zooming in and looking at the lines: AI seems unable to do a clear sharp line, its always sort of wavy for some reason.

 

[Roland TB-303]

They steal the styles of other artists all the time, picasso even bragged about stealing.

 

[SideshowSam's Manager]

Forgot I was in this thread, it looks like the same bunch of losers who've never made anything (other than women uncomfortable) are still jerking off to artist tears for some reason. I hope you know you aren't anymore special than they are because your goyslop dispenser draws you women with fat tits (the highest form of art). Its like you guys see the furries with 5th grade level art skills, and get jealous that they can do something you can't. Probably magnified by failing to surpass someone like Chris-chans skill level.

Some pretty pathetic jealousy taints like half of these posts.