AI Art Seething General

[AmpleApricots]

That could've been a common sentiment back when digital art first started among artists used to traditional media

It was, I was around when digital art became a thing (as opposed to traditional media) and while there was no social media and therefore you didn't hear the opinion of every single retard on this matter it was generally not taken all that seriously by many and seen as a fad that will pass, just like "computers at home" in general. Definitively lots of "If you need a computer to do X, you are no true master of X" commenting though. The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

I think that's because of "social media" that is always available 24-7 on "smartphones", which could be the root cause of Clown World.

 

[Lovely Kin]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

Because the smartphones gave every village idiot a megaphone, now they can spam everywhere, and the average person falls for the baiting and begins raging at everything.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Because the smartphones gave every village idiot a megaphone, now they can spam everywhere, and the average person falls for the baiting and begins raging at everything.

I honestly think this is one of those causation/correlation things. The average person has always fallen for bait and that sort of bullshit, they've always raged at things. One of the main things I remember as a kid was those fucking 'take me out' tier gossip magazines. People would get pissed off because some random celebrity half the way around the world said something about some other celebrity that no one knew about until last week. They also fell for the 'benefit scrounger' lie that was the basis of all ragebait over here for a decade or more, all because the government wanted a way to cut public spending and increase their pay cheque and have the people applaud them as they did so. Even on here. There's people on this site that get pissed off at similarly pointless things, raging at some paedo or tranny online realistically won't do anything. Outside of things that should be reported to police, if you meet this site with anything other than indifference or jest you have already lost. This site is basically just the evolution of those drama magazines anyway. This is an obscure thread in a small subsection of a forum a fraction of a percentage of even the most dedicated internet drama fans know about. We are not anything close to the 'average' person, none of the people talked about here are either, most actually normal people are completely unaware this 'deate' even exists. Just for reference mr beast videos get the same amount of views that twitter has daily users. Sure maybe every mentalcase in the country now has a megaphone, but so do all the people with normal lives and opinions, after a while you just get used to the noise level of that constant megaphone and everyone might as well not have one. The entirety of society has become bipartizanal, happened way before the internet when it was just the news pushing the them vs us mindset.

It's easy to point at the internet and say that it ruined society, while it does have a shit tonne of flaws many of the things that people point to predate the internet, it's just that now they're visible when they weren't before. The reality is is that if you put down the phone and go outside and talk to anyone, like you would before the internet, then they will most likely be the same. I can go down the local and ask the bartender there about his opinion on AI and he will probably reply with something similar to if it was 20 years ago and I asked him about his opinion on Kyle Minogue and what she said about Brittney's belly button. People have always been vitriolic about art, from the people that would go around trying to vandalise photography exhibits (don't quote me on that though) to the people that would call you the absolute scum of the earth for even considering using something as blashphemous as a computer to draw, even to the historical shit of oil painters and their opinions on watercolour painters and that shit, there have always been people that get irrationally angry over absolute nothingness, that's just how some people are. It's just that instead of being printed in some niche magazine or convention or just shouted at a wall in their house, instead now they do it on twitter. The vast majority of people fucking hate it when you shout at them and demand you believe in their beliefs, it will hurt your cause if you do that, cough cough transgenderism. I have yet to meet a single person in my private life who will say anything with the vitriol that online people do. Spoken to people who say they love playing around with it, people who think it's a cool novelty, people that dislike what it makes, even people that think it's a waste of time and a shit technology. I have never met anyone who will do everything short of letting out a genuine reeeeeeee at me. I can find someone like that in seconds online.

People haven't changed; the way you see them has.

 

[weirdMcGee]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

You still needed to draw digital art with your own hands compared to ai. That didn't stop elist from sperging about it. Compare to now, more and more people gained empathy for digital artist once they realize the computer wasn't doing all the work and it still takes a lot of skill to draw regardless of medium. Photography also requires skill, and with photoshop making it easy to edit photos, it became a artform in itself.

 

[AmpleApricots]

That didn't stop elist from sperging about it.

Back in the day, and I don't know if many people know this or remember this anymore, the thing that gave artists existential angst was undo/saving of versions. Yes really, what art people got really riled up about digital art was that you could correct mistakes, which is not always possible in traditional mediums, and certainly not endlessly. With digital art, you can try over and over again until you get something right. How often can you objectively correct a pencil drawing? Correcting your mistakes/going back to earlier versions of the same piece was then making the art "soulless" because it had no character and was "too perfect", "cookie cutter" and so on. This was a big thing. It's funny because it sounds so alien to most ears now and even all these "100% humanely and naturally raised art" artists wouldn't even consider their undo function as tool of the devil. Wouldn't even cross their mind. That's how views can change over time. People basically develop a fantasy of a "good old time" that frankly never existed. Tbh, even back then this was basically just grasping at straws of people who did not want to change their ways, just as it is now.

A lot of the early pixel/cracktro scene art was people painstakingly digitizing movie frames, advert art, album covers and the like, violating all sorts of copyrights. Even in videogames you'd find things that were clearly from completely unrelated media, like movies. Nobody cared because nobody knew, computers were sort of a lawless area in general and law enforcement/courts didn't really know what to do, over- and under-reacting to crimes in these areas, depending on personality. Anyways - for example there was no rule or system to pixel art, everyone just did whatever with whatever the limitations of the system in question did let you get away with. Now you google how to draw pixel art and there all sorts of autistic rules to do Objectively Correct Pixel Art (tm) and it's all garbage because it lacks any sort of creative thought.

tl;dr people decide by feels about things, not objectively.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Right so first I can't go on my silly little internet drama forum, then they ban all the sexy diaper shitting smegma loras, now I can't even fucking go on the site at all?

Fucking hell. What a lovely country. The biggest seethe is me right now. I am the ai art seether. I've said before, keep meaning to upgrade gpu, I've been planning to do so for years now, I was going to just do it when windows 10 support stops and switch from chrome and windows to firefox/tor and linux. I guess I need to start looking at gpus even harder now then? I mean at least tor is basically the same speed as my actual internet on non onion links nowadays.

Between this, the previous censorship and the steam shit. Government fucking hates fun. Banks hate fun. Society hates fun. Fucking world hates fun. "Let's pass a law to protect kids from bad people online" - the group of people that covered up for gang rapists and are currently importing thousands of rapists into the country. Starting to think I should drop the current job and make that sidestep into carpentry, those French fucks I hear they made some good inventions a couple hundred years ago. Yea ttd tnd tpd tid all that shit, but most importantly. Total politician death. Now.

Used to rule the world, seas would rise when we gave the word type shit. Inventors of industry and the most powerful empire in history. Now a sad shithole filled with rapists and, even worse, politicians. Used to be able to leave the house and go buy an entire island and enslave the whole population, now I can't even Asuka penis jar/vase transformation nipple eyes ai image generation without fucking doxing yourself to the government that will throw you in jail for 3 years for saying 'wow there sure do seem to be a lot of rapists on them boats'. I'm calling it now, 10 years from here at most and we will have our own Chinese firewall. Can't even say I wish that people would do something about it, half the people here aren't even English, they don't give a shit as long as they get tax payer money and white women to rape. I hope that the sun doesn't set on the british empire, I hope it fucking crashes on it, specifically right into london and all the people there get evaporated in an instant.

I say this without any form of neither genuine or performative hyperbole, I mean this 1:1 and genuinely, I fucking hope that all of these companies send the uk the same 'fuck off you authoritarian faggots you have no jurisdiction over us' letters that null sent for this same shit. As much as I fucking love this country (the country, not the people that live in the south) and as much as I fucking despise americans and consider them to be the some of the worst people I have ever had to interact with. Can you guys do another one of those revolutionary wars please? I just want london to get it's shit pushed in again. Is that really too much to ask for? Like can you guys just go full 180 on london and go from a colony of ours to the other way around. All I ask for is that our 'cultural enrichment' is being able to own guns and freedom of speech absolutism instead of a nigger cock in your 10 year old daughter.

 

[Two Dollars]

Time Extension writer Damien McFerran has gone from passive-aggressive smugposting to full-on REEEEEEing, complete with paragraphs of screeching about muh AI bros, talking about how easily they get scammed (even though the content of the article doesn’t mention anything being sold), the death of human creativity, and some whining about Elon Musk for good measure.

What could have invoked this wrathful response, you may ask? It may not be for the faint of heart:


Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Time Extension writer Damien McFerran has gone from passive-aggressive smugposting to full-on REEEEEEing, complete with paragraphs of screeching about muh AI bros, talking about how easily they get scammed (even though the content of the article doesn’t mention anything being sold), the death of human creativity, and some whining about Elon Musk for good measure.

What could have invoked this wrathful response, you may ask? It may not be for the faint of heart:
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Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

Wow, what a fucking niggerkike. And why is it always these dipshits that go from the smuggie.jpg into the RAGE.jpg?