Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I'm still sober and all the happier for it. To everyone else struggling: if you can put the bottle down, it will get better one day at a time.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

I'm still sober and all the happier for it. To everyone else struggling: if you can put the bottle down, it will get better one day at a time.

Good on you man. I'm having a gin right now, usually it would make me fall asleep but I had a coffee so the uppers and downers are keeping me somewhat with it at the moment. I think my body would go into shock if I stopped drinking.

 

[56 others]

my balls itch

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Good on you man. I'm having a gin right now, usually it would make me fall asleep but I had a coffee so the uppers and downers are keeping me somewhat with it at the moment. I think my body would go into shock if I stopped drinking.

If you think you're at that point, you should consider going to a detox or a full-on rehab. You'd be surprised how liberating it can be to live your life without planning everything around your next drink.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Not even going to pretend like I was remotely sober to pretend that I relapsed but I drank a liter of hard liquor last night then slept for 13 hours. This shit is stopping me from going to the gym so my bulk is just turning into being a fat retard who doesn't work out.

This hangover is fucking satanic, and I'm not even going to pretend I'm not going to drink next weekend. Fuck me.

My nigger, you can just stop.

But you need to make that decision to stop first. Pick a date for your last drink. Get fucking wasted that night, and the next day you stop. It'll be rough the first couple of weeks, but after that you won't regret it and you won't want to go through detox again. Just make the decision to stop, you've had enough booze for one life. You got better things to do now. Whenever you're tempted, just remember how much hangovers suck and how fucking boring being drunk is. You won't miss being drunk, you will find more interesting things to do with all the free time.

You can do it! Not my words, the words of Rob Schneider.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

May He forgive me for I have given in. Or rather, I deliberately chose to drink. I've no issues going to bed early cause I'll wake up equally early and be productive, but sometimes I have such little to do that spending 8 hours in bed being hungover is better than doing nothing, cause I almost dread having to get up and finding something to do, often just gaming, if I could be without.

It's ok if you fall off the wagon, the important thing is get back on it immediately brother.

I had gone a few months at this point without drinking and I honestly felt no healthier. Fasting, going to bed without looking at screens, choosing books over games. I've changed a lot of things yet feel none of the benefits

My nigger, I don't see any physical activity in that list. But I feel you my brother, being an alcoholic sucks even when you're high functioning. It's a second job that costs you money, basically, because of all the time and energy it steals from you. So drunks like us tend to believe that clean and sober again will be the opposite of that, like when you were 18 and jumped out of bed with a huge boner, ready to fuck bitches and conquer the world.

But it's not like that, you're still a {var="age"} man who was waging total alcoholic warfare on your own liver, kidneys, heart and brain before stopping (good choice). It's better being sober but it's no magic boner elixir. And rarely is the question asked: why were we self-medicating with booze in the first place?

Problem drinking is a symptom of something else missing or wrong with us. Stopping drinking is most of the battle, but having some introspection into why you were doing that is the rest. Oftentimes it's a mental health problem caused by trauma or long term stress. Or just social anxiety. These things can be treated. You can get help to get better.

And you have friends who will be rooting for you along the road, brother.

 

[dick brain]

And rarely is the question asked: why were we self-medicating with booze in the first place?

Problem drinking is a symptom of something else missing or wrong with us. Stopping drinking is most of the battle, but having some introspection into why you were doing that is the rest. Oftentimes it's a mental health problem caused by trauma or long term stress. Or just social anxiety. These things can be treated. You can get help to get better.

I'm apprehensive to bring this up to newly sober people since confronting it can trigger a relapse -- in fact substance abuse problems is one of the criteria on the big bullshit "trauma informed care" list that will cause mental health professionals to refuse to work with you -- but it really should be everyone's long term goal.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

My nigger, I don't see any physical activity in that list. But I feel you my brother, being an alcoholic sucks even when you're high functioning. It's a second job that costs you money, basically, because of all the time and energy it steals from you. So drunks like us tend to believe that clean and sober again will be the opposite of that, like when you were 18 and jumped out of bed with a huge boner, ready to fuck bitches and conquer the world.

But it's not like that, you're still a {var="age"} man who was waging total alcoholic warfare on your own liver, kidneys, heart and brain before stopping (good choice). It's better being sober but it's no magic boner elixir. And rarely is the question asked: why were we self-medicating with booze in the first place?

I somewhat frequently biked 25-30 miles but during the winter, nah. I wanna get into running to the point I walk to work thinking "fuck I should be running", but I lack the know-how and clothing so I'll probably start once it's warmer and then shop clothes towards winter.

Thing is, I don't drink a lot nor is it expensive. I can't even be like "damn I'm saving so much" or what have you. It's a minor change that I wouldn't even say is a 100% advancement. Instead, I sit every friday struggling through the desire to drink cause I'm really that fucking bored, which is my second point: I self-medicate cause I've so little planned that even laying hungover the next day is barely any worse than the absolute bare minimum I could've put my mind to doing. "Oh get a hobby" etc, but at this point I literally have to force myself into even games most of the time. I've started reading a lot but doesn't really scratch that itch of really doing an action intenfully like.. biking. Running. And I cant fucking go running every friday evening on the dot.

 

[dick brain]

I somewhat frequently biked 25-30 miles but during the winter, nah. I wanna get into running to the point I walk to work thinking "fuck I should be running", but I lack the know-how and clothing so I'll probably start once it's warmer and then shop clothes towards winter.

Thing is, I don't drink a lot nor is it expensive. I can't even be like "damn I'm saving so much" or what have you. It's a minor change that I wouldn't even say is a 100% advancement. Instead, I sit every friday struggling through the desire to drink cause I'm really that fucking bored, which is my second point: I self-medicate cause I've so little planned that even laying hungover the next day is barely any worse than the absolute bare minimum I could've put my mind to doing. "Oh get a hobby" etc, but at this point I literally have to force myself into even games most of the time. I've started reading a lot but doesn't really scratch that itch of really doing an action intenfully like.. biking. Running. And I cant fucking go running every friday evening on the dot.

Lift.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

If you think you're at that point, you should consider going to a detox or a full-on rehab. You'd be surprised how liberating it can be to live your life without planning everything around your next drink.

After having some vanilla wine biscuits for a morning tea I am now having a black rum with some pretzels and it's still half an hour until lunchtime, pairs well with Mario jazz music and an overcast sky.

I don't know what I'd drink otherwise, I'm not a fan of soda or juice, I already drink a lot of tea and water, without beer/wine/spirits your options are quite limited.

I think if you are healthy then yes please watch your alcohol intake, if you are fucked then why not drink away your remaining days.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I think if you are healthy then yes please watch your alcohol intake, if you are fucked then why not drink away your remaining days.

How you feel now is not how you will feel in end-stage alcoholism. I got pretty close to killing myself with my alcohol intake years ago and take it from me: it hurts. The abdominal pain was exquisite. You are far better off quitting now while you still have the chance and I am living proof that there is a life after putting the bottle down.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

How you feel now is not how you will feel in end-stage alcoholism. I got pretty close to killing myself with my alcohol intake years ago and take it from me: it hurts. The abdominal pain was exquisite. You are far better off quitting now while you still have the chance and I am living proof that there is a life after putting the bottle down.

Why abdominal pain? Such as your liver dying, or is it more the harsh liquid eats away at the skin lining?

Would you say that it's because of the length of time you were drinking regularly or the amount, as I think many people go through like drinking often but never too much at once, it's a long standing practice in white countries, does it damage your body as severely to do that?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Why abdominal pain? Such as your liver dying, or is it more the harsh liquid eats away at the skin lining?

Gastritis, gall bladder issues, and alcoholic hepatitis all cause unpleasant abdominal pain. I've had all three. I do not recommend it.

Would you say that it's because of the length of time you were drinking regularly or the amount, as I think many people go through like drinking often but never too much at once, it's a long standing practice in white countries, does it damage your body as severely to do that?

For me, both the length of time that I drank and the amount contributed to my problems. Total abstinence from alcohol has done me wonders. Some people can handle having a few drinks every once in a while, but most people I encounter who call themselves "social drinkers" really mean that they binge drink on the weekends. The step from drinking on Friday and Saturday nights to drinking on work nights is not a big one. Relying on alcohol to have fun or deal with stress promotes bad drinking habits even further. If you know that you have a problem with alcohol, no amount of excuses will make it better. Quitting is the better option.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Gastritis, gall bladder issues, and alcoholic hepatitis all cause unpleasant abdominal pain. I've had all three. I do not recommend it.

For me, both the length of time that I drank and the amount contributed to my problems. Total abstinence from alcohol has done me wonders. Some people can handle having a few drinks every once in a while, but most people I encounter who call themselves "social drinkers" really mean that they binge drink on the weekends. The step from drinking on Friday and Saturday nights to drinking on work nights is not a big one. Relying on alcohol to have fun or deal with stress promotes bad drinking habits even further. If you know that you have a problem with alcohol, no amount of excuses will make it better. Quitting is the better option.

Damn man, sorry to hear that, did your body fully heal after all of that? That would of been rough to go through.

Yeah everyone is drinking more now than they ever have before I think, it's society acceptable to drink every night. At my previous job my boss and his mate would down 10+ beers multiple nights a week together (somehow they never looked hung over the next day). Drinking on week days is more common because you want to destress after you get home from a long day.

I certainly have used alcohol to try and remove anxiety before I go somewhere. I once took put some gin in a glass and put it in the cup holder in the car and then had a drink when I got to the destination to try and relax, this was 10 years ago. Was a good day too, did some clay shooting and then went to the pub for lunch for an end of year break up.

My grandad picked up alchoholism during the scamdemic lockdowns because there was nothing to do, and before he died from it his brain had shrunk significantly, booze really drys you up.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Damn man, sorry to hear that, did your body fully heal after all of that? That would of been rough to go through.

Yeah everyone is drinking more now than they ever have before I think, it's society acceptable to drink every night. At my previous job my boss and his mate would down 10+ beers multiple nights a week together (somehow they never looked hung over the next day). Drinking on week days is more common because you want to destress after you get home from a long day.

I certainly have used alcohol to try and remove anxiety before I go somewhere. I once took put some gin in a glass and put it in the cup holder in the car and then had a drink when I got to the destination to try and relax, this was 10 years ago. Was a good day too, did some clay shooting and then went to the pub for lunch for an end of year break up.

My grandad picked up alchoholism during the scamdemic lockdowns because there was nothing to do, and before he died from it his brain had shrunk significantly, booze really drys you up.

I seem to have recovered. You can bounce back pretty well if you quit and stick to it - so long as your liver and heart still function right. I definitely damaged my liver, but my blood tests have all come back green in recent years. Drinking 10+ beers a night is doable when you're young and/or used to it. People are definitely drinking more now than when I was younger and it's out in the open. There's almost a glamorization of alcoholism due to shows like Mad Men. Hell, even the Picard series had people drinking left and right.

Alcohol's affects on the brain are terrible. Worst of all, they are pretty much irreversible. Your liver can recover but your brain is not the same. Damaged brain cells do not recover in the same way or capacity. The only way to prevent further damage is to stop drinking.

Also, I'm sorry about your grandpa. A lot of people died of despair from the lockdowns and no one wants to talk about it.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Well then, may your liver hold strong and keep you going. It's amazing what the human body can bounce back from.

It's much like smoking in movies isn't it, it looks cool to take a drag from a cig, much like it does to take a sip from a glass of spirits. It's seen as something normal to do to enhance whatever it is you are doing. I always like the old Connery Suntory ad, you too can look that suave with a whisky in your hand -

How many brain cells do you think everyone here has lost. Are we talking regression to a smooth brain and we are doomed to never access higher thoughts again?

Thanks man, what was done to us all during the scamdemic is pure evil, and it hurt us all, it's just that some people won't acknowledge it.

 

[Maker's Mark]

Man, I started really hitting the bottle for the first time during COVID and I'm finally getting it more under control.

 

[Manwithamask2]

I maybe post on the forum once or twice a month. Otherwise i just lurk and keep up with the news so to say. Since my last post on this thread i have been stone cold sober barring nicotine and caffeine (cant live without some vices). The main thing to me is that the depressive periods have gone away. No more doom and gloom. No more a minor mishap will get my brain thinking "oh fuck this is it i'm gonna lose it all, the only way out is the rope". Don't know if this helps anyone, but to me. Once your head is clear from all the BS you can function better and focus on what is real instead of what you perceive to be real. The depressive periods were the worst for me, you know when your hungover and your head tells you that you are a piece of shit worth nothing. Yeah not missing those a bit.

 

[repta]

I maybe post on the forum once or twice a month. Otherwise i just lurk and keep up with the news so to say. Since my last post on this thread i have been stone cold sober barring nicotine and caffeine (cant live without some vices). The main thing to me is that the depressive periods have gone away. No more doom and gloom. No more a minor mishap will get my brain thinking "oh fuck this is it i'm gonna lose it all, the only way out is the rope". Don't know if this helps anyone, but to me. Once your head is clear from all the BS you can function better and focus on what is real instead of what you perceive to be real. The depressive periods were the worst for me, you know when your hungover and your head tells you that you are a piece of shit worth nothing. Yeah not missing those a bit.

How long would you say it took for the brain fog & depression to go away?

 

[Manwithamask2]

How long would you say it took for the brain fog & depression to go away?

To me a month was enough to clear the worst fog. Cant say an exact timetable, it all depends on how much you have drunk, how often, what is your tolerance etc. One month was enough to get me to the basic bitch apathetic mode ie yeah yeah whatever. In that month i had to forcefully enforce positive thoughts. After that it gets easier. I'm on my 3rd month sober and my mind is calm barring the occasional intrusive thought. In the beginning i had peaks and valleys, when my mind was clear and i felt great and then when i felt like shitty dirt. To my experience when you clear the emotional roller coaster you are winning.