Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Pentex]

Hey, Alec, is this you buddy?

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I hope the survivors of Halyna Hutchins keep in mind Baldwin has conceded that ruinous civil litigation is the proper answer to an accidental shooting.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

Killing somebody through accidental discharge with a real firearm is different because get this: guns are very good at killing people and thus demand a certain high level of caution when handling. Not having that caution is were the manslaughter charges come in.

What killed the woman is a prop firearm, which is something that is designed to be pointed and shot at real live people without killing them. The fact that it did doesn't necessarily mean that the person who pulled the trigger was at fault.

The very first thing anyone with a brain tells you when you're going to handle anything that isn't a toy gun, as in, a gun that can actually fire anything other than water, is that

1. You never point it at any one and
2. You never pull the fucking trigger

Yes, that includes even when you know for a fact it is empty. Baldwin is a fucking retard.

You can't expect a newfriend Baldwin stan to understand the basic terminology.

Imagine surviving a childhood in the Soviet arctic only to be shot dead by Alec Baldwin after getting to America and making a pretty successful life for yourself. Hollywood couldn't even come up with a story like that.

Don't say that too loud, they might just make a movie out of it.

 

[Beautiful Border]

One sentence horror story: You're playing paintball but Alec Baldwin and Phil Spector are on the other team

 

[kcbbq]

Baldwin or the production company will probably get sued their butts off at most.

If you check the Wikipedia page, the first name on the list of producers is someone called Alec Baldwin.

 

[Art Kassul]

When Alec Baldwin was asked how it felt to kill a man, he replied, "I wouldn't know. I've only killed women."

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

The very first thing anyone with a brain tells you when you're going to handle anything that isn't a toy gun, as in, a gun that can actually fire anything other than water, is that

1. You never point it at any one and
2. You never pull the fucking trigger

Yes, that includes even when you know for a fact it is empty. Baldwin is a fucking exceptional individual.

Yeah, you'd think film productions would be extra sensitive of this after Brandon Lee.

You'd think Baldwin would be extra sensitive of this after his many sperg outs over firearms.

Just goes to show the ones that hate them the most are the biggest idiots.

 

[Greasy Spoon]

For some reason I am thinking of the horrible deaths of a film production crew outside Savanah Georgia, when they cut corners and filmed a scene on what they thought was an unused railroad bridge, without taking proper precautions, permissions or permits.

Info for anyone curious about this, and slight clarification in that the producers knew it wasn't disused, CSX had denied permission to film twice, but the cast and crew didn't know any of that.

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He wasn't playing with it, he wasn't fucking around with it, they were filming.

How would you know?

 

[totallyrandomusername]

It is an interesting point about his possible intoxication. If he was under the influence of anything, that could really be quite significant. It could be argued that even handling a prop gun under the influence is a violation of the law. If so, then her death is immediately felony murder under the "But if for" related to the initial crime.

 

[byuu]

The very first thing anyone with a brain tells you when you're going to handle anything that isn't a toy gun, as in, a gun that can actually fire anything other than water, is that

1. You never point it at any one and
2. You never pull the fucking trigger

That would be a pretty boring movie.

 

[spinch]

How would you know?

because as I said, the gun is given to the actor, it is fired for the purpose of the shot, and it is given back to the props manager/safety manager and it is then inspected and locked up until the actors and crews need it again for the next take. I know he wasn't fucking with it because there are multiple people whose job it is to ensure Alec was not just fucking around with the gun.

if he was fucking around with the gun, the union people on set would be losing their mind and he would be in for some huge penalties/fines. that shit doesn't fly.

 

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What's jack alluding to with those women and his daughter?

Prop Gun Fired by Alec Baldwin Contained Live Bullet, Says IATSE Local 44 — UPDATE​

" IATSE Local 44, which covers prop masters, sent an email to its members early Friday morning that said the gun used in the scene contained “a live round” and the production’s propmaster was not a member of Local 44. Director Joel Souza also was hit and injured by a bullet and was treated at an area hospital before being released."

Prop Gun Fired by Alec Baldwin Contained a ‘Live Single Round,’ Says IATSE Local 44

The incident took place October 21 at the Bonanza Creek Ranch in Santa Fe County. It is under investigation.

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Oh man double trouble with this revelation and if they can prove he was drunk. whoo boy.

 

[totallyrandomusername]

Can anyone with more knowledge of how this is done explain how they "plug" a gun so it is supposedly non-operational? My understanding was they pour molten lead into the barrel, and it actually bonds to the barrel. The plug, from what I understand is supposed to be strong enough that the gun will blowback/backfire before the plug would give way in the event that someone actually tried to fire it.

 

[Greasy Spoon]

because as I said, the gun is given to the actor, it is fired for the purpose of the shot, and it is given back to the props manager/safety manager and it is then inspected and locked up until the actors and crews need it again for the next take. I know he wasn't fucking with it because there are multiple people whose job it is to ensure Alec was not just fucking around with the gun.

if he was fucking around with the gun, the union people on set would be losing their mind and he would be in for some huge penalties/fines. that shit doesn't fly.

Ah ok I'm with you now, nice one

 

[usoland]

Considering it fired a bullet that killed someone I'd say it's a gun.

 

[kobebyarlant]

Sauce?

Just saw it on 4chan. So if it’s fake, it’s fake but accurate. Alec Baldwin is exactly the kind of guy to kill someone via ND.

 

[totallyrandomusername]

If a real bullet was in it, then someone in the chain of custody for that gun was intending to kill someone, not necessarily the individual that did die.

 

[Getting tard comed]

because as I said, the gun is given to the actor, it is fired for the purpose of the shot, and it is given back to the props manager/safety manager and it is then inspected and locked up until the actors and crews need it again for the next take. I know he wasn't fucking with it because there are multiple people whose job it is to ensure Alec was not just fucking around with the gun.

if he was fucking around with the gun, the union people on set would be losing their mind and he would be in for some huge penalties/fines. that shit doesn't fly.

Unless you were there you have no idea if proper protocol was followed. Especially when one of the stars of the film is a producer of the film who is one of the reasons the film got funding to be made in the first place.

Maybe you haven't heard but a lot of films are being made with non-union people right now in many positions due to the upcoming strike.

So no, you don't know he wasn't playing with it or angry, or intoxicated, or any combination that led to this event. I seriously don't understand how this even happens. In what configuration does the DP(most likely behind a camera or looking at a tablet near the camera) and the director(most likely at a kiosk away from everything watching on a monitor) both get shot? None of that sounds like protocol as normal.

Edit: The local prop union announced the guy handling props for this production wasn't a member. 50/50 odds on the person being non-union due to what's going on in the entertainment industry + the budget for this film.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

because as I said, the gun is given to the actor, it is fired for the purpose of the shot, and it is given back to the props manager/safety manager and it is then inspected and locked up until the actors and crews need it again for the next take. I know he wasn't fucking with it because there are multiple people whose job it is to ensure Alec was not just fucking around with the gun.

if he was fucking around with the gun, the union people on set would be losing their mind and he would be in for some huge penalties/fines. that shit doesn't fly.

Those same peoples jobs are to ensure that the gun doesn't actually have anything in it, as well...

When are people on the internet going to learn that just because someone has a job, doesn't mean they do their job particularly well?

 

[kcbbq]

Considering it fired a bullet that killed someone I'd say it's a gun.

I don't know why, but I am extremely amused by the LA Times's linguistic gymnastics in avoiding saying Baldwinshot the gun. It's all "the gun discharged" and other phrases that would make it seem as if the gun did it all by itself.

 

[Quixotic Man]

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But this sounds like several layers of fuck up. I sure do hope someone gets fired for this blunder.