Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Had]

 

[Michael Janke]

Is she a fake Hispanic like Hilaria Baldwin?

and anya taylor joy i guess.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

More hilarity in the world of highly-qualified and competent female armorers, courtesy of the NY Post:

The “inexperienced” armorer in charge of weapons on set of Alec Baldwin’s movie “Rust” had given a gun to an 11-year-old actress without checking properly for safety, a report said.

Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 24, was criticized for being “inexperienced and green.”

It's a sobering thought that if this worthless Instagram whore was as good at weapon safety as she is taking endless selfies, another woman would still be alive.

None of the above is shocking at this point; the whole thing was an utter shitstorm of complacency. Even worse, both inexperienced & more competent people actually saw something like this coming, yet nobody did anything except quit & virtue signal, or keep their traps shut because being cancelled is worse than death.

What will be hilarious is the inevitable movement to ban real and blank firearms in movie-making, as unlikely to succeed as that is.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

None of the above is shocking at this point; the whole thing was an utter shitstorm of complacency. Even worse, other more competent people actually saw something like this coming, yet nobody did anything except quit & virtue signal, or keep their traps shut because being cancelled is worse than death.

TBF, those Union employees did the most they could have done. It's the producers and the director that fucked up once their peons gave stern council.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

More hilarity in the world of highly-qualified and competent female armorers, courtesy of the NY Post:

The “inexperienced” armorer in charge of weapons on set of Alec Baldwin’s movie “Rust” had given a gun to an 11-year-old actress without checking properly for safety, a report said.

Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, daughter of prominent Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, was head armorer on set in Santa Fe where Baldwin fired a prop gun loaded with a live round, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

Gutierrez-Reed’s alleged misstep happened on the set of the upcoming Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way” and temporarily halted filming, sources told The Daily Beast.

“She was reloading the gun on the ground, where there were pebbles and stuff,” one source told the outlet. “We didn’t see her check it, we didn’t know if something got in the barrel or not.”

Gutierrez-Reed reportedly handed the gun to child actress Ryan Kiera Armstrong, forcing concerned crew members to intervene, the report said. The gun was then checked for barrel obstruction, according to the sources.

“She was a bit careless with the guns, waving it around every now and again,” a source said.


Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed reportedly gave a non-inspected gun to an 11-year-old actress on the set of the Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way”.
Voices of the West/Facebook.

“There were a couple times she was loading the blanks and doing it in a fashion that we thought was unsafe.”

A “Rust” production source described Reed as “inexperienced and green,” to the outlet, adding that there had been two other incidents of accidental discharges by crew members.

Two other “Rust” production sources questioned if Assistant Director Dave Halls followed proper procedure before the tragic incident.

“He’s supposed to be our last line of defense and he failed us,” one source told The Daily Beast. “He’s the last person that’s supposed to look at that firearm.”

Halls was named in the affidavit calling out “cold gun,” indicating its safety before giving the weapon to Baldwin.

Another source confirmed that it should be the assistant director’s job to test each gun for being “hot” — loaded with live rounds, or “cold” — loaded with blank rounds.

“This check alone should’ve prevented this incident,” the person told The Daily Beast.

Last month, Guitierrez- Reed said on a podcast that she was “nervous” about her abilities as an armorer while she was working on “The Old Way” — her first experience as head armorer.

“You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready … but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,” she said last month on the Voices of the West podcast.


Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 24, was criticized for being “inexperienced and green.”

It's a sobering thought that if this worthless Instagram whore was as good at weapon safety as she is taking endless selfies, another woman would still be alive.

Setting the scene for blaming absolutely anyone other than Arec Bordwin

 

[AnnLurker]

I finally glanced at this madness.

Good sir, what is this nonsense? Has the miasma of the UK finally seeped into and rotted your brain?

It's just silly. You are on Kiwi Farms. Mocking people for anything possible is a matter of course. The post you cited was very clearly sarcastic, given that it mentioned farmers having a wife to sleep with which is just outlandish.

Shhhhh, don't spoil it by teaching him sarcasm. I want to see him react to people saying "Julay" and him thinking they want to fuck Bluespike.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

You are on Kiwi Farms. Mocking people for anything possible is a matter of course.

This should be inscribed on the sign above the gates of this website, just under 'abandon hope, all ye who enter'.

Personally, while the better outcome would be that someone stayed alive, I'm getting a lot of mileage from that smug asshole being unable to walk the walk, after sperging for decades about people who should take responsibility and face some kind of justice. "Nobody should have such a tragedy on their conscience!" Well, there are degrees. Maybe it'll at least make him shut the fuck up, for the forseeable future.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Maybe it'll at least make him shut the fuck up, for the forseeable future.

We're not that lucky. Assholes like him never learn humility.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

We're not that lucky. Assholes like him never learn humility.

Oh well, at least we have a shitload of new memes, ready to be spammed at him every time he opens his mouth.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

So was the accident during or between shot scenes? Because the former would mean there is a recorded footage of what happened, while the latter means Baldwin basically aimed a gun and pressed the trigger towards a production member as a joke.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

 

[SITHRAK!]

Putting words here to avoid autoban.

 

[Brahma]

As an example to what end? What moral duty is there to mock someone, who's unlikely to better himself/herself?

Policing social norms. You don't expect the retards to change their behavior but they serve as an example of what not to do for others.


Or something. I don't care

More hilarity in the world of highly-qualified and competent female armorers, courtesy of the NY Post:

The “inexperienced” armorer in charge of weapons on set of Alec Baldwin’s movie “Rust” had given a gun to an 11-year-old actress without checking properly for safety, a report said.

Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, daughter of prominent Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, was head armorer on set in Santa Fe where Baldwin fired a prop gun loaded with a live round, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

Gutierrez-Reed’s alleged misstep happened on the set of the upcoming Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way” and temporarily halted filming, sources told The Daily Beast.

“She was reloading the gun on the ground, where there were pebbles and stuff,” one source told the outlet. “We didn’t see her check it, we didn’t know if something got in the barrel or not.”

Gutierrez-Reed reportedly handed the gun to child actress Ryan Kiera Armstrong, forcing concerned crew members to intervene, the report said. The gun was then checked for barrel obstruction, according to the sources.

“She was a bit careless with the guns, waving it around every now and again,” a source said.


Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed reportedly gave a non-inspected gun to an 11-year-old actress on the set of the Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way”.
Voices of the West/Facebook.

“There were a couple times she was loading the blanks and doing it in a fashion that we thought was unsafe.”

A “Rust” production source described Reed as “inexperienced and green,” to the outlet, adding that there had been two other incidents of accidental discharges by crew members.

Two other “Rust” production sources questioned if Assistant Director Dave Halls followed proper procedure before the tragic incident.

“He’s supposed to be our last line of defense and he failed us,” one source told The Daily Beast. “He’s the last person that’s supposed to look at that firearm.”

Halls was named in the affidavit calling out “cold gun,” indicating its safety before giving the weapon to Baldwin.

Another source confirmed that it should be the assistant director’s job to test each gun for being “hot” — loaded with live rounds, or “cold” — loaded with blank rounds.

“This check alone should’ve prevented this incident,” the person told The Daily Beast.

Last month, Guitierrez- Reed said on a podcast that she was “nervous” about her abilities as an armorer while she was working on “The Old Way” — her first experience as head armorer.

“You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready … but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,” she said last month on the Voices of the West podcast.


Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 24, was criticized for being “inexperienced and green.”

It's a sobering thought that if this worthless Instagram whore was as good at weapon safety as she is taking endless selfies, another woman would still be alive.

Sounds like Dave Halls here is going to be the fallguy for the shitlib and the diversity hire getting someone killed

 

[SITHRAK!]

"Sounds like Dave Halls here is going to be the fallguy for the shitlib and the diversity hire getting someone killed"

My prediction: involuntary manslaughter for Halls and Reed, and nothing for Baldwin.
But what should happen is negligent homicide for Halls and Reed and involuntary manslaughter for Baldwin.

 

[northstar747]

On the gun chat and why didnt alex check himself.

In a perfect world alex would have the knowedge of gun safty.

But also the gun safty would be in the hands of a professional on the set who would understand that actors are retarded whores who upon being handed a gun (prop real blank etc) would most likely be told not to fuck with it.

 

[Travoltron]

My prediction: involuntary manslaughter for Halls and Reed, and nothing for Baldwin.
But what should happen is negligent homicide for Halls and Reed and involuntary manslaughter for Baldwin.

I'm betting that the pussy pass will spare Reed from any serious punishment. She'll probably cry on the witness stand and jurors will fall for it. She'll probably blame someone else for all her mistakes, probably this Halls guy. I assume her movie career is over though.

 

[Xarpho]

So was the accident during or between shot scenes? Because the former would mean there is a recorded footage of what happened, while the latter means Baldwin basically aimed a gun and pressed the trigger towards a production member as a joke.

Yeah, some of the things described in the original press release sounded like he got pissed and pointed what he thought was only a prop gun toward the crew and shot them, now the blame is being shifted to the incompetent armorers, reinforcing the idea that it mostly because they were working with non-union armorers and poor Alec Baldwin was caught up in the middle of it...which would conveniently save him from personal lawsuits and any criminal liability.

There were witnesses there and the director would've remembered if they were filming or not.

If things happened exactly as the current news indicates, Baldwin was handed a "hot" gun that was said to be cold by the idiots running the armory, shot at the camera in a cool "aim at the camera" shot, hit Hutchins and Souza behind her...and footage would exist.

If it didn't, and Baldwin was pissed at the crew between shots and "pretended" to shoot them as an unofficial (fake?) article seemed to indicate, no footage would exist.

The twist here that existence of the footage would exonerate Baldwin and prove the news story, making it in the best interest for the footage to be secured by police and the media to publicize that fact.

If only it were that simple...so where's the fucking footage?

 

[SITHRAK!]

I'm betting that the pussy pass will spare Reed from any serious punishment. She'll probably cry on the witness stand and jurors will fall for it. She'll probably blame someone else for all her mistakes, probably this Halls guy. I assume her movie career is over though.

Where it gets really interesting is that films in California are required to have a qualified armorer on any set where firearms are present as part of the production. This was apparently in New Mexico, and the laws there do not require this.

A clearly incompetent Gutierrez-Reed has previously claimed that she was 'trained' by her experienced armorer father 'from an early age'. This is vastly at odds with other reports of her being stopped from engaging in unsafe practices and safety breaches by other members of the crew on her prior film. Crew members not even trained or tasked with firearm safety stepped in at one point to stop her from handing a blank-loaded pistol with a potential barrel obstruction to an eleven-year-old actress.

So one of two potential possibilities exists: either she was trained by her father, or she was not.
If not, then she's a liar whose lies have cost a young mother her life.
If so, then then she's either negligent or incompetent despite the training.

My gut tells me that if she'd been raised from an early age to be an armorer, as claimed, she would not have spent years as a makeup artist, online dominatrix, and instagram whore; and we wouldn't have multiple photos of a chubby 5/10 blond posing with firearms on-set.
My gut also tells me what we're dealing with is a narcissistic millennial shit who's lied/nepotized her way into a cool job without the slightest shred of awareness of its risks and requirements.
Diversity hires brought on through connections is how nu-Hollywood works; and when you're not dealing with pyrotechnics, firearms, vehicles and stunts, that's fine, I suppose. But when you are dealing with shit that gets people killed if you fuck up...

So what's her dear daddy to do?
Either he can stand up and say "yes, I trained her", at which point he will probably find his career comes to a screeching halt, for obvious reasons.
Or he can say "No, I never trained her" (with the unspoken corollary of "and I wish she'd never claimed I did"). But that's throwing her to the wolves.
So he basically has to choose between his career and legacy, or his self-absorbed, incompetent, hubristic daughter.
My guess? They're not going to need a table setting for her for thanksgiving 2022-2023.

 

[Weeb Slinger]

It's a sobering thought that if this worthless Instagram whore was as good at weapon safety as she is taking endless selfies, another woman would still be alive.

One thing that I observed while working for the NHS is that the 'never events' (the most serious incidents) have the same basic foundations as the near misses (those moments when there was almost an accident but good fortune or a last minute intervention prevented a tragedy from occurring). It comes down to a lapse in professional standards; a failure to take proper care.

This is exacerbated when people like Gutierrez-Reed are hired for reasons other than proven competence and experience. They treat their jobs like a costume that confers them status on social media: This week I'm an armorer [poses with gun]. Their focus is on the job title when it should be on the minutiae of their role. I chalk this up to identity politics ruining a generation. When labels are given precedence over actions you get what you deserve.

 

[SITHRAK!]

They treat their jobs like a costume that confers them status on social media: This week I'm an armorer [poses with gun].

Hard agree. Every photo and post I've seen from this worthless incompetent whore screams 'got the job through lying and social connections'.
Well, that and "look at me I'm a fierce proud woman changing the face of the boy's club that is movie armoring'.
Hubris.