Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another


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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.
 
They just released video of the shooting!

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I'm betting that the pussy pass will spare Reed from any serious punishment. She'll probably cry on the witness stand and jurors will fall for it. She'll probably blame someone else for all her mistakes, probably this Halls guy. I assume her movie career is over though.
I dunno. She's too fat to be pretty enough to get away with it.
 
Something that really rustles my jimmies about this armorer thot and hollyjew in general is them handing over a prop gun with blanks over to an 11 year old. I've been shooting since I was like 5 and my grandpa gave me a 22. revolver to shoot squirrels with and that was in commiefornia, but I don't trust anyone in hollyjew to sit down with the 11 year old and teach them basic gun safety like my grandpa did.
 
This is TMZ, so take it with a grain of salt until other sources back this up, but holy shit

Gun That Killed DP ...ALLEGEDLY USED FOR OFF-SET TARGET PRACTICE​

https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/23/alec-baldwin-rust-gun-accident-used-off-set-target-practice/ (https://archive.ph/zk961)

The smoking gun that claimed the life of Halyna Hutchins might've been more than just an on-set prop -- it was also being fired recreationally, even when cameras weren't rolling.

Multiple sources directly connected to the 'Rust' production tell TMZ ... the same gun Alec Baldwin accidentally fired -- hitting the DP and director -- was being used by crews members off set as well, for what we're told amounted to target practice.

We're told this off-the-clock shooting -- which was allegedly happening away from the movie lot -- was being done with real bullets ... which is how some who worked on the film believe a live round found its way in one of the chambers that day.

Obviously, authorities would want to speak to anyone who had been using the weapon for target practice, and -- more importantly -- to whoever was putting the gun back among others used for filming.

We've reached out to law enforcement to see if that's happened yet.

There's also this ... one source who was on set and familiar with the goings-on of the crew tells us that when cops showed up, they found live ammo and blanks were being stored in the same area -- another possible explanation for how an actual bullet slipped got in the gun.
 
People are already trying to tie this into Q. Let's see what craziness they got up to, shall we?

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Wait a minute.

What the fuck?

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I keep thinking about this and wondering how patient you would have to be to intentionally set up a situation where he would do this.

You'd either have to infiltrate the cast itself and notice a pattern where he points the gun at the director, actively work behind the scenes to sabotage the production and get all these competent people to walk out.... Or Baldwin was blackmailed to do it. Most of the shitty decisions can be traced back to him.
 
There's also this ... one source who was on set and familiar with the goings-on of the crew tells us that when cops showed up, they found live ammo and blanks were being stored in the same area -- another possible explanation for how an actual bullet slipped got in the gun.
If this is true people are going to prison for a long time, and rightly so.

I keep thinking about this and wondering how patient you would have to be to intentionally set up a situation where he would do this.

You'd either have to infiltrate the cast itself and notice a pattern where he points the gun at the director, actively work behind the scenes to sabotage the production and get all these competent people to walk out.... Or Baldwin was blackmailed to do it. Most of the shitty decisions can be traced back to him.
Surely it would be simpler to just get some 'enderman' to off her (in minecraft) if that's your intended goal? These people have been watching to many movies playing too many Hitman games.
 
Albuquerque vigil honors the life of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins https://mol.im/a/10124537

The Mail is covering this extensively (although likely not accurately) so have posted what is currently the headline news on the UK version. Couple interesting takes from this, it appears that Baldwin is sticking to the bereaved spouse and family like glue, attending memorials alongside them etc. So he’s obviously still got his freedom (rules for thee etc, am sure I’d be in a lock-up pending investigation and so would you) and he’s obviously got the family ‘on side’. Which is fine. Just personally, I find it strange. Accident or no I’m not sure I could be in the same room as the person who killed my spouse no matter the circumstances. Liberals sure are built differently that’s for sure.

Another interesting point is the comments on the article - nearly everyone is outraged that the paps are photographing Halyna’s son. And I agree. It’s disgusting, leave the kid alone.

As for the rest, I’m U.K., I know zero about guns and could be trusted with one about as well as you’d trust a toddler with a kettle of boiling water. I’m torn between ‘responsibilities’, I wouldn’t expect the average actor to know guns, opening mechanisms, types of bullets etc more that I would, that’s why they get safety briefings and employ people to get the safety part right. But at the end of the day the gun was in his hand, he pointed at people and pulled the trigger. He did it.

Add in nepotism, union strikes, poor working conditions and the famous Baldwin temper - someone should make a movie out of this, can’t wait to see how it ends!
 
they found live ammo and blanks were being stored in the same area
Problem is that blanks and live ammo are visually distinct and instantly recognizable.
Now, where the issue may actually lie is with 'dummy bullets', which are needed in many revolvers whose cylinders are visible from the front.
You need dummy bullets to make it look like the weapon is loaded (an empty cylinder is a dead giveaway).

My theory is that the dummy bullets on set didn't have slots or holes cut in the cases, or pulled primers, which would instantly mark them as inert, because the lead armorer was a fuckwit. Somehow one or more live rounds got mistaken for dummies, and the next thing you know, Alec Baldwin can't ever be smug about the dangers of guns ever again.
 
If any of this is remotely true then everyone involved will deservedly be sued into another dimension even if there are no criminal charges. Handing a "hot gun" to an actor without them knowing, in a situation where presumably he has to point it down the lens (the only circumstance I can think of where both the DP and the Director would be hit by the same bullet) requires a level of negligence and incompetence even greater than the fuckup that killed Brandon Lee - that was at least someone failing to spot a problem with a prop, but this sounds like the gun was working as intended. Everyone from the props guy to the studio itself is going to be buried in lawsuits and never make a movie again, and quite right too. If someone really mistook a real gun capable of firing live rounds for a prop gun that can't, that's a criminal level of negligence that almost defies belief. But we all of us have worked places where people are that bad at their jobs, it happens. As an actor you can't second-guess the safety professionals on set - that's going to put you in more danger than blindly trusting them, and open you up to all sorts of liabilities. Baldwin had the right to assume the gun he was holding was the right one, because there's a well-paid guy on set whose exact job it is to make sure that is the case.

I don't like Alec Baldwin. But he's probably the least responsible person here. For some of you guys to assume he was drunk or shooting a loaded gun wildly around a set for some reason (he has decades of experience on sets where there are guns, real and fake) makes you look really fucking pathetic. Like some sped posting an obviously faked and unsourced text image saying he was going all Yosemite Sam on set and you morons falling for it. Jesus fuck, if ANY actor was that irresponsible they wouldn't have the career Baldwin has had, especially considering he's a massive asshole as has been well documented.

Alec Baldwin is suffering right now, and if that's the caveman level of schadenfreude that gets you off, don't go complaining the next time some leftoid celebrates something horrible happening to someone you respect because they don't like their opinions. Alec Baldwin deserves punishment for the bad things he's done over the years, his hypocrisy, his elitist arrogance, his appalling political views, but not for this. This sounds (unless these sources are completely wrong, which I acknowledge is possible) like he actually is one of the victims here.
I agree with a lot of what you say, except 1 thing: that Baldwin is the least responsible person here.

Nope. I’m sorry. I don’t care what you think you have in your hands, what it looks like, or where you got it- if you’re pointing that shit at another human being or around another human being you have just as much responsibility to examine the weapon, test fire it, and to familiarize yourself with it and the dangers.

1 is it a prop gun that fires caps? Do the caps burn off anything? Can that burn someone? Can it start a fire? Any flame lick? Smoke?

2 is it a “real” gun? What’s it loaded with? (Trick question a gun is always treated as if it’s loaded, period) is it loaded with a live round? A blank? Do you know the difference? Why the fuck not? It’s simple and can be found on Google in 2 seconds (pistol and rifle ammunition will be flat on top as it has no “payload”). What’s the dangers of firing a blank? It pushes out air at a very fast rate and that can injure someone. Could possible crack a bone or injure a skull/brain if fired close to the face. It’s loud, can it injure ears? Yours? Others? What about a flame lick? There’s still gun powder, can you burn something?

3 why the fuck are you not loading your own (very real) gun that’s firing (very real) bullets while being pointed at live humans?

Alec Baldwin should’ve been able to answer this and more. He himself should’ve been test firing this weapon before it was ever pointed at a human being. Why was he not doing this? A half day (at the least) should’ve been taken to answer these questions himself.

I don’t like the mocking but tbh it’s karma. When a lefty does it they probably consider it the same. It’s stupid and tiresome but not likely to end anytime soon, and I’d like to see this lady and her family have a little more respect and privacy, it’s not her or their fault directly. I’d rather see these questions asked, and more importantly answered, than another stupid meme.

Just so you know, the difference between a blank and a live round:
There’s no projectile (on the top). Blanks will be flat. If your dumb ass is firing them off learn the difference.
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Sorry if this is late and gay and all that, I’m just surprised as hell people actually use real guns on set. Up until this happened I thought they used fake guns firing caps. Also I live in a cave and just heard.
 
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The AD getting thrown under the boss sucks major ass. Guns should only be going through the armorer to the actor/stunt person's hands and this had happened 3 times already.

This is why it pays not to be a minor asshole. He rubbed people the wrong way and now nobody will stick up for him since they don't like him and he isn't a big enough asshole that anyone's afraid of him. Sucks to suck.

I like hearing the victims husband was a lawyer for the Clinton's. If that agent 47 meme is more on point than we think I might die of laughter.
 
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Add in nepotism, union strikes, poor working conditions and the famous Baldwin temper - someone should make a movie out of this, can’t wait to see how it ends!
For a liberal like Alec Baldwin about unions and working conditions, he's proudly preach the old saying "do as I said, not as I do".

Btw, the guys of American Thinker are on a roll today with this blog post about Alec Baldwin.

October 24, 2021

Alec Baldwin is merely getting a taste of his own medicine​

By Rajan Laad

For four continuous years, Alec Baldwin maliciously caricatured President Trump in numerous ‘comedy’ sketches on Saturday Night Live.
The cycle worked as follows:
  1. The ‘brains’ in Washington contrived a scandal or outrage for that week, often related to the phony Russian Collusion narrative that loomed over Trump’s 4-year term. The figurative rifles were fired resting on the shoulders of shady lawyers, porn stars, dismissed or disgruntled personnel, anonymous ‘insiders’ and ‘leakers’.
  2. The mainstream media amplified these vile figments of imagination. Almost every news broadcast or panel discussion or op-ed piece ended with cliched lines like “this may be the smoking gun that will force President Trump out of office”; on rare occasions the line was punctuated with a question mark.
  3. Then on Saturday night, the impossible was attained by taking poor taste to depths inconceivable to any human mind. Alec Baldwin and his ‘comedian’ accomplices were at their foulest as they hammed the to the hilt in mean-spirited, poorly authored, abominably made, and atrociously performed ‘comedy sketches.’
During that period, Baldwin boasted to Howard Stern that he frequently met people who tearfully thanked and hugged him for what ‘he's doing with Trump’.
Through his possibly apocryphal claim, Baldwin was trying to portray himself as a valiant crusader standing up to the contemporary Mussolini.
But how could he be leading a movement against supposed tyranny by merely appearing on a comedy sketch show?
Baldwin had unknowingly confessed that the goal on SNL was no longer comedy.
The days of playful humor and hilarious caricatures with the likes of Darrel Hammond are over, the new goal for SNL is to push the agenda of the far left and assassinate the character of their political opponents.

The players including Alec Baldwin relished being part of this vile and hateful propaganda.
Along with the Washington establishment, the mainstream media, Baldwin, and others in entertainment created a climate of pessimism, negativity, hate, and divisiveness.
It was also a stark display of schadenfreude, defined by psychiatrists as the pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others. They joyfully celebrated when they thought President Trump was confronted with insurmountable impediments during his tenure.
The wounds they inflicted on the soul of the nation are very deep probably will never heal.
Beyond his ‘comedy’ gigs, Baldwin also transcended all boundaries of decency even going as far as to comparing President Trump to the titular character in Hitchcock’s Psycho among other pejorative epithets.

He would often say in his trademark tenor brimming with an undercurrent of rage that “Trump has to go.” In other words, a democratically elected leader has to be forced out of office solely because Baldwin doesn’t approve of him. It is most ironic that he claims to be doing it for the sake of democracy.
He also claimed that Trump supporters who spotted him usually muttered obscenities at him. Baldwin said he felt the hate emanating from them and that President Trump and his supporters have an unbreakable bond solely owing to their bigotry.
This was ironic again, considering hate for President Trump and bigotry towards middle America were the sole motives behind his ‘comedy’ and his utterances
The lack of self-awareness is quite astounding.

Beyond his unhinged rants and his ‘comedy’ Baldwin hasn’t exactly been an apostle of virtue.
In October 1995, Baldwin allegedly assaulted a photographer who was videotaping his ex-wife with their three-day-old daughter as they returned home from the hospital
In 2007, Baldwin left a nasty voicemail for his 11-year-old daughter calling her a "thoughtless, little pig".
In 2011, Baldwin was thrown off a flight after he refused to stop playing a game on his smartphone, while waiting for take-off, Baldwin allegedly verbally assaulted the flight attendant before being deplaned.
In 2013, police were called after he was involved in an altercation with a photographer in New York City. His late-night talk show was canceled following homophobic comments he made during the confrontation. The same year he was accused of using racial slurs against another photographer.
He also pleaded guilty to harassment dispute over a parking space in 2019.
Yes, Baldwin feels he has the right to condescendingly attack others for their ideology, their voting choice, and their religious faith.
 
More hilarity in the world of highly-qualified and competent female armorers, courtesy of the NY Post:

The “inexperienced” armorer in charge of weapons on set of Alec Baldwin’s movie “Rust” had given a gun to an 11-year-old actress without checking properly for safety, a report said.

Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, daughter of prominent Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, was head armorer on set in Santa Fe where Baldwin fired a prop gun loaded with a live round, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

Gutierrez-Reed’s alleged misstep happened on the set of the upcoming Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way” and temporarily halted filming, sources told The Daily Beast.

She was reloading the gun on the ground, where there were pebbles and stuff,” one source told the outlet. “We didn’t see her check it, we didn’t know if something got in the barrel or not.”

Gutierrez-Reed reportedly handed the gun to child actress Ryan Kiera Armstrong, forcing concerned crew members to intervene
, the report said. The gun was then checked for barrel obstruction, according to the sources.

“She was a bit careless with the guns, waving it around every now and again,” a source said.


Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, daughter of prominent Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, was head armorer on set in Santa Fe where Baldwin fired a prop gun loaded with a live round, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.
Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed reportedly gave a non-inspected gun to an 11-year-old actress on the set of the Nicholas Cage film, “The Old Way”.
Voices of the West/Facebook.


“There were a couple times she was loading the blanks and doing it in a fashion that we thought was unsafe.”

A “Rust” production source described Reed as “inexperienced and green,” to the outlet, adding that there had been two other incidents of accidental discharges by crew members.

Two other “Rust” production sources questioned if Assistant Director Dave Halls followed proper procedure before the tragic incident.

“He’s supposed to be our last line of defense and he failed us,” one source told The Daily Beast. “He’s the last person that’s supposed to look at that firearm.”

Halls was named in the affidavit calling out “cold gun,” indicating its safety before giving the weapon to Baldwin.

Another source confirmed that it should be the assistant director’s job to test each gun for being “hot” — loaded with live rounds, or “cold” — loaded with blank rounds.

“This check alone should’ve prevented this incident,” the person told The Daily Beast.

Last month, Guitierrez- Reed said on a podcast that she was “nervous” about her abilities as an armorer while she was working on “The Old Way” — her first experience as head armorer.

“You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready … but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,” she said last month on the Voices of the West podcast.


Hannah Gutierrez Reed, 24, daughter of prominent Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, was head armorer on set in Santa Fe where Baldwin fired a prop gun loaded with a live round, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.
Head armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 24, was criticized for being “inexperienced and green.”

It's a sobering thought that if this worthless Instagram whore was as good at weapon safety as she is taking endless selfies, another woman would still be alive.
This is the woman that was a "head armourer" and in charge of gun safety.

We are reaching woke feminist levels of clown world I never thought possible.


Edit: Apparently late with the video. My assessment of peak clown world still stands.
 
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Surely it would be simpler to just get some 'enderman' to off her (in minecraft) if that's your intended goal? These people have been watching to many movies playing too many Hitman games.
Well as much as a pain in the ass it would be to pull off, it’s brilliant in how unbelievable it is. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, it’s that evil hides in absurdity.
 
Accident or no I’m not sure I could be in the same room as the person who killed my spouse no matter the circumstances. Liberals sure are built differently that’s for sure.
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"I'm so, so, so very sorry... that that gun killed your wife. Thank god the police locked it up, so it cant hurt anyone else."
 
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