Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

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Inexperienced ‘Rust’ Armorer Enraged Nicolas Cage on Previous Film: ‘You Just Blew My F–ing Eardrums Out!’ (Exclusive)​

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the 24-year-old armorer who handled weapons on the set of Alec Baldwin’s “Rust,” was the subject of numerous complaints on her previous film just two months earlier after she discharged weapons without warning and infuriated star Nicolas Cage, a crew member told TheWrap.

Stu Brumbaugh, who served as key grip on the Cage Western “The Old Way” this summer, told TheWrap that Gutierrez upset both Cage and other crew members on the Montana production by failing to follow basic gun safety protocols like announcing the arrival and usage of weapons onto the set.

After firing a gun near the cast and crew for a second time in three days without warning, Brumbaugh said that Cage yelled at her, “Make an announcement, you just blew my f—ing eardrums out!” before walking off set in a rage. “I told the AD, ‘She needs to be let go,’” Brumbaugh, adding, “After the second round I was pissed off. We were moving too fast. She’s a rookie.”

It was only after alerting his superiors that the production needed a more experienced armorer who did not make these kinds of basic safety mistakes that he learned it was Gutierrez’s very first movie. While her LinkedIn profile bills her as a videographer whose experience as an armorer dates to March 2021, she is the daughter of Thell Reed, a weapons expert and fast-draw exhibition shooter who is well known in Hollywood and has previously worked with actors like Brad Pitt.

Gutierrez-Reed could not be reached by TheWrap and appears to have removed most of her social media presence. She did not immediately respond to an attempt to reach her via her LinkedIn page.

Clayton Turnage, the first assistant director listed on the IMDb page for “The Old Way,” and reps for Cage did not respond to requests for comment.

Reached Tuesday by TheWrap, a producer of “The Old Way” denied the incidents and denied that anyone ever asked for the armorer’s dismissal. “I have no such recollection of this event on our set. I asked my partners the same,” the producer said. “The details on some of these accounts specifically when it pertains to ‘The Old Way’ have been blown out of proportion.”

The producer said Gutierrez-Reed worked underneath a veteran property master, Jeffrey W. Crow, who oversaw her work. Crow did not respond to a request for comment from TheWrap, but he previously defended Gutierrez-Reed in an interview with the Los Angeles Times and said he was “surprised” that any of the accidents on “Rust” “happened on her watch.”

“I told them there was no way any person could do props and armory on a gunfighter movie safely because there were too many guns,” Crow said. “All the armorers I know and tried to bring in were working already, so I left it up to producers. I had never heard about Hannah until I was informed she would be my armorer, but my skepticism of her initially, about her lack of experience, was allayed after I’d worked with her.”

Despite those remarks, others on the set disputed this view.

The incidents detailed by Brumbaugh and one other person on the set “put the cast and crew in several unnecessary and dangerous situations,” according to the latter person. Brumbaugh confirmed that the following incidents occurred, including:

• Gutierrez-Reed walked onto the set with live rounds of blanks and no public announcement to the cast and crew, breaking established safety protocols.

• She tucked pistols under her armpits and carried rifles in each hand that were ready to be used in a scene. Firearms were aimed at people. She turned around and the pistols that were tucked under her armpits were pointing back at people.

• She twice fired guns on the set without giving any warning to the cast and crew, as required. The first time she was demonstrating the gun volume to see if the loud sound would startle the horses when without warning the gun went off.

Gutierrez-Reed previously downplayed her inexperience as an armorer. Speaking on a recent “Voices of the West” podcast just a month before the “Rust” tragedy, Gutierrez-Reed said that while she had picked up some details of the job from her father, she described working on “The Old Way” as a “really badass way” to start her career, but said she learned on her own the process of loading blanks into firearms, calling it “the scariest thing.”

“It was also my first time being head armorer as well. You know, I was really nervous about it at first, and I almost didn’t take the job because I wasn’t sure if I was ready, but, doing it, like, it went really smoothly,” she said in September. “The best part about my job is just showing people who are normally kind of freaked out by guns how safe they can be and how they’re not really problematic unless put in the wrong hands.”

Gutierrez-Reed also said on the podcast that prior to becoming an armorer she considered being an actor or a cinematographer but found she more of a knack for weapons work. She had also been a presence on social media under the username on Instagram @no_son_of_a_gun, but within recent days of the accident, virtually all of her social media accounts have been disabled.

Like many in the Hollywood production community, Brumbaugh was distraught that someone so inexperienced was in charge on firearms the “Rust” set, and said it was a function of independent budgets being too tight to maintain safety. “The tragedy is it boils down to the producers,” he said. “It’s been happening more and more. As producers refuse to bring more experienced people because their rates are higher, they demand we take our time and (producers) don’t want to pay it. So they hire a newbie who is energetic and wants the job and will do it with less people.”

He went on: “The problem is she didn’t have help. I would have had minimum two more people. She was doing everything by herself in that movie and on the other movie. If there was one more person in the other movie the tragedy wouldn’t have happened. A second person would have inspected to make sure the barrels were clear.”

Given the tight budget and the demands of the job, Brumbaugh understood how deadly mistakes could happen. “You have an AD screaming at you,” he said. “You’re 24 and energetic and don’t want to be yelled at. So you rush in and start arming people.”

Inexperienced 'Rust' Armorer Drew Numerous Complaints for Last Film

A crew member on Nicolas Cage's "The Old Way" demanded firing of armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed, but she went on to handle guns on "Rust"

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[Slimy Time]

This is getting better by the day the more info comes out on them hiring this thot, as well as the blatant decision to ignore protocol.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

It was only after alerting his superiors that the production needed a more experienced armorer who did not make these kinds of basic safety mistakes that he learned it was Gutierrez’s very first movie

@Product Placement They don't need a "more experienced armorer," they need someone with an IQ greater than 75.

 

[TheShedCollector]

They were apparently shooting live ammo at cans earlier in the day. I'd bet the farm the rookie armourer forgot to empty the chamber.

 

[beautiful person]

• She tucked pistols under her armpits and carried rifles in each hand that were ready to be used in a scene. Firearms were aimed at people. She turned around and the pistols that were tucked under her armpits were pointing back at people.

What a stupid bitch

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

whose experience as an armorer dates to March 2021, she is the daughter of Thell Reed, a weapons expert

holy fucking shit! That's a whole 6 months experience ! Bet ya $20 she uttered the phrase "well my dad said/is/does ..." any & every time someone questioned the actions of this fucking muppet.

Fuck Baldwin I want this bitch's head on a stick as an example.

 

[MadStan]

I mean, was it too much for Baldwin to follow the #1 rule of gun safety (treat every gun as if it is loaded) and take 5 seconds to check the chamber?

What am I asking, of course it's too much. All that safe handling shit is for help and for NRA extremists.

If I were to do the same thing, I would immediately be charged with manslaughter, because I'm not Alec Baldwin. Hell, I'd be in jail if I did so because Jamal was about to brain me.

The lack of charges against Baldwin is just more proof of our two-tiered judicial (I refuse to call it justice) system.

You've got to take it easy and realize every actor on a set does not have this job - and for good reason. We do not want actors making life and death decisions who are not qualified to make life and death decisions. Only people who have had the proper training should make life and deaths decisions. If you put the onus on the actor you negate the 2-check system entirely and allow that to become lax by handing out the responsibility and dipping everyone's hands in blood. No, bad idea - you have 2 people who are clearly and 100% liable and make them know it.

There is a protocol in place for a 2-check system prior to him or anyone even holding the gun. He isn't being charged not because he is Baldwin but because he is in an environment that has a system in place that takes the onus off of the actors - all actors - and rightly so because demanding that Actors become experts on knowing the difference between live rounds, black rounds, rounds with wadding etc. is just silly. Whats next? An Actor sees a dummy round and demands it is taken out, inspected and opened to make sure it is not actually a real round? Let us be realistic. You would not have been charged either if you had been holding the gun. Instead they pay good money for quality armourers and assistant producers to know this process. The Armorer is supposed to have YEARS of training on nothing but this. Yeas of experience following years of training. Giving the same liability to an actor is silly, unless we are going to demand they spend years training - what next? have them become electricians so if they use a power outlet on a set we can say they are liable too if it electrocutes someone?

A 2-check system is clearly a very robust system because these incidents seldom happen.

The focus is rightly on the Armourer and Assistant Director - both of which failed in their duty. Hannah could not have checked the gun properly, and neither did the Assistant Director; so this is extremely lax and is negligent to a criminal level.

The actor could have checked the gun obviously, but when you have two people who have the sole job of saying "I've been trained and paid and my entire purpose on this set is to check the guns and we both checked it and we attest it is completely safe.. I am an expert." then finding the actor that pulled the trigger guilty is an impossible and unrealistic task.

Baldwin will not be convicted not because he is Baldwin but because he was an actor that did not display criminal negligence. As for the Armourer and the Assistant Producer, they fucking said it was a cold gun and it wasn't. That is criminal negligence.

Clearly there is prejudice against Baldwin because if it has been "John Smith who never held a gun before", this forum would be targeting and digging up dirt on the Assistant Producer and Armorer who set "John Smith" up. If the Actor had never held a gun before (as is often the case), the screaming would all be against the 2 fuckheads who fucked up.

And that is exactly what the police are doing - going after those who are actually responsible.

I don't like John Voight, but if it had been him who fired the gun I never would allow my prejudice to get in the way of actual facts of a case.

My prediction is the Armorer will likely be charged; and the Assistant Producer will also be charged - with what exactly I can not say. Of course, we have not been told yet even what the projectile was that killed the poor lady, so early days yet, but I think today the case will be laid before the public with charges announced.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

You've got to take it easy and realize every actor on a set does not have this job - and for good reason. We do not want actors making life and death decisions who are not qualified to make life and death decisions.

You don't need to be "qualified" to clear a gun, and even if you did you should not have been handling one if you weren't. And clearing a gun you are in possesion of is not a "life or death decision," in fact the decision to not clear it is.

 

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You've got to take it easy and realize every actor on a set does not have this job - and for good reason. We do not want actors making life and death decisions who are not qualified to make life and death decisions. Only people who have had the proper training should make life and deaths decisions. If you put the onus on the actor you negate the 2-check system entirely and allow that to become lax by handing out the responsibility and dipping everyone's hands in blood. No, bad idea - you have 2 people who are clearly and 100% liable and make them know it.

There is a protocol in place for a 2-check system prior to him or anyone even holding the gun. He isn't being charged not because he is Baldwin but because he is in an environment that has a system in place that takes the onus off of the actors - all actors - and rightly so because demanding that Actors become experts on knowing the difference between live rounds, black rounds, rounds with wadding etc. is just silly. Whats next? An Actor sees a dummy round and demands it is taken out, inspected and opened to make sure it is not actually a real round? Let us be realistic. You would not have been charged either if you had been holding the gun. Instead they pay good money for quality armourers and assistant producers to know this process. The Armorer is supposed to have YEARS of training on nothing but this. Yeas of experience following years of training. Giving the same liability to an actor is silly, unless we are going to demand they spend years training - what next? have them become electricians so if they use a power outlet on a set we can say they are liable too if it electrocutes someone?

A 2-check system is clearly a very robust system because these incidents seldom happen.

The focus is rightly on the Armourer and Assistant Director - both of which failed in their duty. Hannah could not have checked the gun properly, and neither did the Assistant Director; so this is extremely lax and is negligent to a criminal level.

The actor could have checked the gun obviously, but when you have two people who have the sole job of saying "I've been trained and paid and my entire purpose on this set is to check the guns and we both checked it and we attest it is completely safe.. I am an expert." then finding the actor that pulled the trigger guilty is an impossible and unrealistic task.

Baldwin will not be convicted not because he is Baldwin but because he was an actor that did not display criminal negligence. As for the Armourer and the Assistant Producer, they fucking said it was a cold gun and it wasn't. That is criminal negligence.

Clearly there is prejudice against Baldwin because if it has been "John Smith who never held a gun before", this forum would be targeting and digging up dirt on the Assistant Producer and Armorer who set "John Smith" up. If the Actor had never held a gun before (as is often the case), the screaming would all be against the 2 fuckheads who fucked up.

And that is exactly what the police are doing - going after those who are actually responsible.

I don't like John Voight, but if it had been him who fired the gun I never would allow my prejudice to get in the way of actual facts of a case.

My prediction is the Armorer will likely be charged; and the Assistant Producer will also be charged - with what exactly I can not say. Of course, we have not been told yet even what the projectile was that killed the poor lady, so early days yet, but I think today the case will be laid before the public with charges announced.

Pretty much agree, but would say Baldwin does have blame on the level of a producer for letting it get to this point but he also share that blame with the other producers onset and the director. And while legally he may not have to be present for the Armorer and Assistant Producer doing the weapon check, I think it's fair to say he should have demanded to have the check performed in front of him

Questions do need to be asked if they were aware of what was going on during the set and why didn't they close-set down until the issues were corrected or if they were unaware got to ask the question why. Because of these questions I fully expect to see a lawsuit happen against the production company.

 

[MadStan]

You don't need to be "qualified" to clear a gun. And clearing a gun you are in possesion of is not a "life or death decision," in fact the decision to not clear it is.

yeah you do.

If there is a round lodged in the chamber you need to know how to get it out. Clearly, and obviously, using a gun is dangerous even to those qualified. Police have incidents soldiers do as well as actors.

For unqualified people it is a dangerous weapon, daily misfires happen, people are killed, their kids are killed at home, work and in public.

The very basis of the argument against Baldwin by his critics is the very fact that it is so dangerous, that we should negate the liability of the 2 other people and charge him for it. So clearly, it is life and death.

Clearly, you do need to be qualified.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

yeah you do.

If there is a round lodged in the chamber you need to know how to get it out. Clearly, and obviously, using a gun is dangerous even to those qualified. Police have incidents soldiers do as well as actors.

Checking if the chamber is empty will not create a squib out of thin air. Even if it did, you would make the gun safe by clearing it.

Again, even if clearing a gun with a squib wouldn't make it safe, it wouldn't make it any more dangerous so there is no excuse not to know how to and actually clear a gun you are in posession of.

and the way to clear a squib it literally just tap it out with a rod and a mallet. II's not fucking rocket science.

 

[SITHRAK!]

You've got to take it easy and realize every actor on a set does not have this job - and for good reason. We do not want actors making life and death decisions who are not qualified to make life and death decisions. Only people who have had the proper training should make life and deaths decisions.

You keep posting this shit and you're just plain wrong.
The more people in the chain that check the firearm for safety, the better.
Yes, it's the armorer's job to make sure weapons are safe and issued in line with set safety rules.
But preventing the actors from being part of the safety process is just fucking retarded.

Let me put it this way; standard rules say that when practising a scene, a dummy, deactivated or empty firearm is to be used.
Now assume Baldwin was a responsible gun user and firearm-familiar actor.
AD yells 'cold gun' and hands him the pistol responsible for this incident. It's supposed to be empty but it's not.

Baldwin thumbs the cylinder release (or opens the loading gate) and there before his eyes are one or more rounds with pristine primers.
He pulls one and notes that it's not drilled or slotted to indicate it's an inert or dummy round and immediately calls 'hot gun' and places the weapon down until the armorer can waddle over and find out what the fuck is going on.

A life is saved, and we don't have to hear your inane, shit-tier take on on-set firearms safety. Everyone wins.

 

[The Lizard Queen]

This is starting to sound like the perfect storm of fuckuppery that led to a person's death due to multiple varieties of stupidity colliding with each other.
Here's what it looks like, there are 3 different kinds of stupid happening here:

1. A rookie armorer who was also a danger-hair. She was a nepotism hire with no experience and a history of poor life choices. She had also been told off before for being reckless with firearms. There were warning signs about her everywhere.

2. A producer with a history of cutting corners when it came to safety, as well as keeping everything on a tight budget so there was no redundancy to prevent accidents. They had several previous close calls related to safety issues.

3. An ultra-liberal actor who feels like they're invincible and nothing bad can happen around them. An actor who knows very little about guns, and thinks of them as toys. Being a leftist, he also blindly trusts those above him.

When these three things collided, it resulted in the dimwit armorer leaving a loaded gun on set, a tightwad producer who had eliminated all the secondary professionals who would have noticed the gun was loaded (among other safety violations), and a distracted actor who picked up the gun like it was a toy without bothering to check if something had gotten lodged in the barrel, or even if the safety was on.

All of it led to the death of a human being, although in the end it was the armorer's job to not have live ammo on set, and to ensure the guns were properly handled. This was literally the only thing she was there to do.
Armorers before her have managed to work with tight budgets and small staff, and almost nobody gets killed on set. She was supposed to have loaded these guns with blanks beforehand, which she clearly did not do for whatever reason... so she gets the brunt of blame here.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

You keep posting this shit and you're just plain wrong.
The more people in the chain that check the firearm for safety, the better.

But you need a PhD in gunology to clear a firearm otherwise you might kill someone somehow.

For unqualified people it is a dangerous weapon, daily misfires happen, people are killed,

Look up the definition of the word "misfire" and realize that you are one of those "unqualified" people and should keep your mouth shut.

 

[SITHRAK!]

If there is a round lodged in the chamber you need to know how to get it out

Rounds get 'lodged' when cases split from firing (and are therefore no longer 'live' and dangerous to extract). In some cases a live round may misfeed and get caught in the chamber or ejection port of a semi- or automatic weapon, but you would have a better chance of scoring a handjob from Hillary Clinton than having a misfed round discharge.

Clearly, and obviously, using a gun is dangerous even to those qualified. Police have incidents soldiers do as well as actors.

Yes, that's why Hollywood has safety procedures which normally involve the actor being part of the firearm safety chain. But as this set was not in California, and was using a non-union crew, they didn't have to follow those rules.

For unqualified people it is a dangerous weapon, daily misfires happen, people are killed, their kids are killed at home, work and in public.

Which is why Baldwin should have been a trained, educated, safety-aware link in the set firearms safety process.

The very basis of the argument against Baldwin by his critics is the very fact that it is so dangerous, that we should negate the liability of the 2 other people and charge him for it.

The armorer and the AD should both be charged with negligent homicide and Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter. I haven't heard anyone say only Baldwin should be charged. Please cite these 'critics' that say only he should be charged, or admit you pulled a strawman out of your ass.

Armourer

Nogunz detected. Brit? Aussie? Kiwi?

Baldwin will not be convicted not because he is Baldwin but because he was an actor that did not display criminal negligence.

Nigga he pointed a firearm, that he had not personally verified was safe, at another human being, then pulled the trigger.
Take away the movie star and set and you have a classic case of negligent homicide.
The only saving grace is that it could be argued that it wasn't his responsibility to ensure the gun was clear.
That just leaves the aiming at another person and pulling the trigger, which is still negligent, but could be argued as involuntary manslaughter.

 

[Slimy Time]

holy fucking shit! That's a whole 6 months experience ! Bet ya $20 she uttered the phrase "well my dad said/is/does ..." any & every time someone questioned the actions of this fucking muppet.

Fuck Baldwin I want this bitch's head on a stick as an example.

Why didn't they just get the dad then, rather than rely on the daughter, who in my experience with young women, probably didn't listen to anything her dad taught her about guns because social media is more important to a young thot?

 

[Corndog]

Why didn't they just get the dad then, rather than rely on the daughter, who in my experience, probably didn't listen to anything her dad taught her about guns because social media is more important to a young thot?

She was the much cheaper option. Production (Baldwin was one of the producers) has to bear a large portion of the blame for pinching pennies when lives were on the line.

 

[DMX DA GOAT]

It's cute how the morons who know absolutely nothing about guns, gun safety or even on set protocol continue to talk out of their ass in an attempt to "save" Daddy Baldwin.

 

[Corndog]

I don't always work as an armorer, but when I do things get dangerous!

 

[Meat Target]

You've got to take it easy and realize every actor on a set does not have this job - and for good reason. We do not want actors making life and death decisions who are not qualified to make life and death decisions. Only people who have had the proper training should make life and deaths decisions. If you put the onus on the actor you negate the 2-check system entirely and allow that to become lax by handing out the responsibility and dipping everyone's hands in blood. No, bad idea - you have 2 people who are clearly and 100% liable and make them know it.

There is a protocol in place for a 2-check system prior to him or anyone even holding the gun. He isn't being charged not because he is Baldwin but because he is in an environment that has a system in place that takes the onus off of the actors - all actors - and rightly so because demanding that Actors become experts on knowing the difference between live rounds, black rounds, rounds with wadding etc. is just silly. Whats next? An Actor sees a dummy round and demands it is taken out, inspected and opened to make sure it is not actually a real round? Let us be realistic. You would not have been charged either if you had been holding the gun. Instead they pay good money for quality armourers and assistant producers to know this process. The Armorer is supposed to have YEARS of training on nothing but this. Yeas of experience following years of training. Giving the same liability to an actor is silly, unless we are going to demand they spend years training - what next? have them become electricians so if they use a power outlet on a set we can say they are liable too if it electrocutes someone?

A 2-check system is clearly a very robust system because these incidents seldom happen.

The focus is rightly on the Armourer and Assistant Director - both of which failed in their duty. Hannah could not have checked the gun properly, and neither did the Assistant Director; so this is extremely lax and is negligent to a criminal level.

The actor could have checked the gun obviously, but when you have two people who have the sole job of saying "I've been trained and paid and my entire purpose on this set is to check the guns and we both checked it and we attest it is completely safe.. I am an expert." then finding the actor that pulled the trigger guilty is an impossible and unrealistic task.

Baldwin will not be convicted not because he is Baldwin but because he was an actor that did not display criminal negligence. As for the Armourer and the Assistant Producer, they fucking said it was a cold gun and it wasn't. That is criminal negligence.

Clearly there is prejudice against Baldwin because if it has been "John Smith who never held a gun before", this forum would be targeting and digging up dirt on the Assistant Producer and Armorer who set "John Smith" up. If the Actor had never held a gun before (as is often the case), the screaming would all be against the 2 fuckheads who fucked up.

And that is exactly what the police are doing - going after those who are actually responsible.

I don't like John Voight, but if it had been him who fired the gun I never would allow my prejudice to get in the way of actual facts of a case.

My prediction is the Armorer will likely be charged; and the Assistant Producer will also be charged - with what exactly I can not say. Of course, we have not been told yet even what the projectile was that killed the poor lady, so early days yet, but I think today the case will be laid before the public with charges announced.

Safety is everybody's job. There are four basic rules of gun safety:

1. Treat EVERY gun as if it is loaded
2. Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, i.e. never at anything you don't intend to shoot
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you have your target and are ready to fire
4. Know your target and what is behind it

It doesn't matter what union rules or on-the-set practices are applicable. The simple fact remains that Baldwin couldn't be bothered to observe those four idiot-simple rules and decided to fuck around, and because of it, a woman lost her life.