Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.
 
Like I said earlier, he was probably trying to pull a cinematic pull and cock the hammer maneuver, but his thumb slipped, hammer didn't wind up fully cocked, and it fell forwards onto a live round.
Isn't this type of revolver supposed to have a safety which prevents the hammer from impacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled?
 
Isn't this type of revolver supposed to have a safety which prevents the hammer from impacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled?
Yep. Baldwin handled that firearm in a reckless and negligent manner, resulting in the death of a person. How it came to be loaded or who loaded it is ultimately legally irrelevant, per case law. Its an open and shut involuntary manslaughter case.
 
Wasn't it a single action revolver? That would mean he had to cock it before it would fire.
Yes, and yes.
Isn't this type of revolver supposed to have a safety which prevents the hammer from impacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled?
Yes, if it’s a Pietta replica of a Colt Single Action Army, as has been reported, it has a ‘transfer bar’ safety which does just that.

These questions have been answered already in the thread, I’d encourage you to go back to about page 20 and read on from there. There’s some good stuff in here and more than a few spitballed ideas that seem to be turning out to be quite accurate.
 
Really? Because everything coming out of the DA's office seems to imply that Criminal Charges are likely on the table for all involved. And Baldwin certainly seems to be a perfect match under the New Mexico statute for Involuntary Manslaughter, aka Criminally Negligent Homicide.
The production company will be sued because it its par of the course. Charges are pretty unlikely against the company, but possible, but will be minor.

The Armourer will definitely be charged; the Assistant Director probably. The actor that held the gun, nothing.

In fact I am so confident Baldwin as an individual will not be charged based off the data to hand thus far that if I am wrong I will leave Kiwifarms for 6 months as penalty. And Null or anyone else is able to report me for being on here if it happens, and I will gladly take the 6 month suspension. I'm also NOT allowed to create another account.

That's my confidence level,
 
The production company will be sued because it its par of the course. Charges are pretty unlikely against the company, but possible, but will be minor.

The Armourer will definitely be charged; the Assistant Director probably. The actor that held the gun, nothing.

In fact I am so confident Baldwin as an individual will not be charged based off the data to hand thus far that if I am wrong I will leave Kiwifarms for 6 months as penalty. And Null or anyone else is able to report me for being on here if it happens, and I will gladly take the 6 month suspension. I'm also NOT allowed to create another account.

That's my confidence level,
Dude chill out.
 
In fact I am so confident Baldwin as an individual will not be charged based off the data to hand thus far that if I am wrong I will leave Kiwifarms for 6 months as penalty. And Null or anyone else is able to report me for being on here if it happens, and I will gladly take the 6 month suspension. I'm also NOT allowed to create another account.

Dude, stop putting so much stock into your presence on a lolcow forum.
 
The production company will be sued because it its par of the course. Charges are pretty unlikely against the company, but possible, but will be minor.
Goddamn, you've got the sense of a soup sandwich.... Baldwin is the production company; it's his production, and everyone who's listed under him aren't fucking equal partners.
The Armourer will definitely be charged; the Assistant Director probably. The actor that held the gun, nothing.

In fact I am so confident Baldwin as an individual will not be charged based off the data to hand thus far.
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If I am wrong I will leave Kiwifarms for 6 months as penalty. And Null or anyone else is able to report me for being on here if it happens, and I will gladly take the 6 month suspension. I'm also NOT allowed to create another account.

That's my confidence level,
"There he goes, one of God's original mistakes; not unique enough to live, but too dumb to die."
 
It is just bullshit fantasies made up to try to "it was teh guns fault".
For fucks sake, faggot Baldwin and friends were using the real guns from the set to plink targets for fun and games
because guns are just harmless toys.

These type of guns just don't go off accidentally. He did not check it, he cocked it, he pointed it at the victim (to look cool) and he pulled the trigger.
That is all there is.
I'm well aware how these type of guns work. I probably own several of them. That's my point. Even if it was "the gun's fault" it's still not the gun's fault. The armorer is supposed to know what's going on with every single weapon on set. If that gun had a known hammer/sear issue then it shouldn't have been on set at all, or it should've gone directly to a gunsmith to address its issue before it was allowed back on set. This is someone's fault. Probably a couple of someones. In my opinion Baldwin as an actor is morally responsible as well because he didn't check the gun himself before pointing it at people, but I doubt he'll be held personally liable for that aspect of it. He may be liable in his capacity as a producer, but you'd have to prove a lot of things before that liability rose to criminal charges. Either way, it's going to be interesting to see how this does or doesn't play out and who does or doesn't get fucked over this.
 
In my opinion Baldwin as an actor is morally responsible as well because he didn't check the gun himself before pointing it at people, but I doubt he'll be held personally liable for that aspect of it.
Don't jinx it fam; a non-zero percent chance exists that @Menotaur will need to eat the loss, inshallah.
 
Hey man; I'm just putting my money where my mouth is; that's all.

I know a lot of fellas on here would like to see my ass in a sling, so why not dangle a carrot? Lets make it a little fun.

You leaving is meaningless to everyone but you thanks to the ignore feature. Way to out how much of an addict you are to this site by valuing your absence as anything.
 
It is just bullshit fantasies made up to try to "it was teh guns fault".
For fucks sake, faggot Baldwin and friends were using the real guns from the set to plink targets for fun and games
because guns are just harmless toys.

These type of guns just don't go off accidentally. He did not check it, he cocked it, he pointed it at the victim (to look cool) and he pulled the trigger.
That is all there is.
Chill out, dude. Not even Menotaur is being that dense, and believe me, he's dense enough to believe its the fault of everyone but the man responsible for the ND. If Alec Baldwin was smart (he wasn't) he would have asked for a safer gun (he didn't), but if he was only moderately intelligent (he wasn't) he would have kept his thumb well away from the hammer and finger off the trigger while practicing that draw (he didn't). He handled an unsafe gun in an unsafe manner, and someone else paid the price for it.
 
It would be funnier if @Menotaur was just banned for six months for being a massive faggot.
Check out your avatar before thinking I'm a faggot.

I think it is hilarious I get called dense and I think there are about 2-3 other people on this entire forum that have actually read every court doc related to the Stolen elections, Sidney Powell, Derek, Mike Lindell which is why projections on results in all these matters has been fairly straight forward.

But to you Einsteins, it all boils down to what you think that day and who you hate. You guys can't predict the outcome of a Donut eating competition because you guys can't or don't read.

But hey, keep the dream on Baldwin being jailed alive. I understand since Trump got trashed in the elections you've got a hard-on for anyone who disrespected your orange Religious Leader.

And trust me, I'm gonna be a fucking dildo in your ass as I get to watch Balwdin walk free as a fucking bird and watch you chumps whine like the little faggots you actually are.

You are any fucking entertainment, and you don't disappoint.
 
Check out your avatar before thinking I'm a faggot.

I think it is hilarious I get called dense and I think there are about 2-3 other people on this entire forum that have actually read every court doc related to the Stolen elections, Sidney Powell, Derek, Mike Lindell which is why projections on results in all these matters has been fairly straight forward.

But to you Einsteins, it all boils down to what you think that day and who you hate. You guys can't predict the outcome of a Donut eating competition because you guys can't or don't read.

But hey, keep the dream on Baldwin being jailed alive. I understand since Trump got trashed in the elections you've got a hard-on for anyone who disrespected your orange Religious Leader.

And trust me, I'm gonna be a fucking dildo in your ass as I get to watch Balwdin walk free as a fucking bird and watch you chumps whine like the little faggots you actually are.

You are any fucking entertainment, and you don't disappoint.

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lol you seem a bit upset. maybe you should take that 6 month sabbatical for your own sanity, fatty
 
Check out your avatar before thinking I'm a faggot.

I think it is hilarious I get called dense and I think there are about 2-3 other people on this entire forum that have actually read every court doc related to the Stolen elections, Sidney Powell, Derek, Mike Lindell which is why projections on results in all these matters has been fairly straight forward.
Such stinging ad hominem, followed up with the strawman hat-trick; while also proving your lack of relevant experience or insight to the discussion. How will we ever recover from your loss?
But to you Einsteins, it all boils down to what you think that day and who you hate. You guys can't predict the outcome of a Donut eating competition because you guys can't or don't read.
How does reading help predicting donut eating contests? Fat is easy to spot.
But hey, keep the dream on Baldwin being jailed alive. I understand since Trump got trashed in the elections you've got a hard-on for anyone who disrespected your orange Religious Leader.

And trust me, I'm gonna be a fucking dildo in your ass as I get to watch Balwdin walk free as a fucking bird and watch you chumps whine like the little faggots you actually are.

You are any fucking entertainment, and you don't disappoint.
You should sell that salt; I hear Daily Kos & MSN pays by the syllable.
 
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