Trainwreck Alex Dacy / Alex Dzimtowicz / Wheelchair Rapunzel - 50% wholesome disability influencer, 50% that cash me outside girl

[TheCakeIsALie]

She's getting an elective awake intubation for delivery and is already on unfractionated heparin

Yeah, I was just explaining why GA isn’t used in a OB/GYN setting unless really necessary. Like forget about just the lung function part, there’s too many other issues that don’t make it a first choice even in healthy people who need them.

 

[Barbarella]

All of the delivery stuff sounds nightmarish, and I have kids so it is. However, for most, labor and delivery are just a day or two, and if all goes well, you raise a child for 18 years.

Assuming the plan goes perfectly and her child is fine, she still cannot raise it. The chances of an addict stepping up to care for an baby after just a few months of sobriety is nil.

The first 3 years are intensely hard. Kids need so, so much. Everything. Parents get no sleep, feed constantly, then watch them when they get mobile, then energy that lasts all day. She simply can’t do it, which means her parents will have to step in. Or his parents.

I can’t imagine how devastated they must feel. While you are parents forever, at some point the caregiving ends and then it’s about love and temporary support if necessary. These parents are going to have to start all over again. Their lives are over.

I wonder if they ever had an opportunity or even considered sterilizing her? Some Downs parents are able to-it’s controversial for some reason but it’s entirely appropriate. I guess they didn’t think about how dumb their daughter would be.

This woman has a short life expectancy, has no strength to raise a kid and it’s entirely unfair to the baby and parents.

And that’s best case scenario.

 

[glass_houses]

All of the delivery stuff sounds nightmarish, and I have kids so it is. However, for most, labor and delivery are just a day or two, and if all goes well, you raise a child for 18 years.

Assuming the plan goes perfectly and her child is fine, she still cannot raise it. The chances of an addict stepping up to care for an baby after just a few months of sobriety is nil.

The first 3 years are intensely hard. Kids need so, so much. Everything. Parents get no sleep, feed constantly, then watch them when they get mobile, then energy that lasts all day. She simply can’t do it, which means her parents will have to step in. Or his parents.

I can’t imagine how devastated they must feel. While you are parents forever, at some point the caregiving ends and then it’s about love and temporary support if necessary. These parents are going to have to start all over again. Their lives are over.

I wonder if they ever had an opportunity or even considered sterilizing her? Some Downs parents are able to-it’s controversial for some reason but it’s entirely appropriate. I guess they didn’t think about how dumb their daughter would be.

This woman has a short life expectancy, has no strength to raise a kid and it’s entirely unfair to the baby and parents.

And that’s best case scenario.

I've gotten into arguments with other women on multiple occasions, who've said that 'having children is an intrinsic human right' and that 'any woman, disabled or not, has the right to have children'. Alex and her young lover are the perfect examples of why these so-called rights should not be. Physically, mentally, emotionally, medically, genetically, financially, sexually... these people should neither of them reproduce, and they have reproduced with each other. This is what happens when two narcs have access to a uterus and society has an automatic knee jerk at the idea of 'eugenics'. It should be drilled into all children as soon as they can walk, that reproduction is a privilege and not a fucking right. Genetic counseling should be mandatory, as should behavioural tests for would-be parents. There are too many broken children in the world who should never have been born and broken morons who should never have been allowed to reproduce.

 

[Dr. Butt]

I've gotten into arguments with other women on multiple occasions, who've said that 'having children is an intrinsic human right' and that 'any woman, disabled or not, has the right to have children'.

Introduce those women to our friend Hotwheels. (I know he's cowed out which is too bad really - he makes a lot of good points that I think would be well-received if he didn't start by literally saying "I believe in eugenics!")

 

[Android raptor]

I don't think there's anything wrong with disabled women having kids as long as they have the ability to care for them properly while also getting their needs met. For example, the woman mentioned in the OP whose been married for years and presumably hasn't fired all her caregivers that Alex might be trying to imitate.

The problem is both the parents in this case might as well be part of the Sammieverse.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

I wonder if they ever had an opportunity or even considered sterilizing her?

I mean this feels like you're going off the deep end, but at the very least they should have ensured she had sex Ed and access to contraception (ESPECIALLY as she was on a drug totally contraindicated in pregnancy). She's not a spud mentally, and should be able to make decisions for herself.

But she said in one of her posts how she'd never had a Pap smear or had contraception offered to her, but she's also a fully grown adult doing sex work and should take some responsibility for her own health. She's likely been babied her whole life and enjoys infantilising herself.

 

[Turtlebees]

People with disabilities don't look at themselves as vulnerable the same way an outsider might. I doubt Alex spends her days stressing about her health - this is her normal and just how she lives. She doesn't know physical well-being and has nothing to measure her abilities against. If anything, she'd be less apt to overthink medical risks than a lot of normal folks would because she's already survived so much. This line of thought sometimes also extends to the chance of passing on faulty genetics.

It isn't responsible to attempt childbirth in her state but I'm not going to hate on her for that. She has the body she does and she's going to make it work for her as best she can because that's what people do. As bad a decision as it was, I can even muster up sympathy for her reluctance to get timely prenatal care - anyone who knows doctors will discourage them from continuing a pregnancy would understand her fear. My eye-rolling is all about her attitude and the poor choice of partner for this adventure.

Girl had baby fever and a boyfriend who enabled her to drop all the external home aids and reliance on mommy and daddy. Now she's living with a problem guy and not getting the degree of care her condition requires. She's kicked her family and longtime friends to the side when she needs them most in favour of this man she barely knows by comparison. Does she know if he's a carrier for SMA? I doubt it, and even though it isn't likely that he is, this sort of variable is one more reason a woman with SMA shouldn't be thinking of reproducing outside an established, financially stable relationship where both partners know their medical risks and where any potential child will be cared for should the worst happen She's immature; her actions are very teen mom, not educated young woman. She also comes across as a bit of a bitch, so there's that too.

 

[A tree]

I mean this feels like you're going off the deep end, but at the very least they should have ensured she had sex Ed and access to contraception (ESPECIALLY as she was on a drug totally contraindicated in pregnancy). She's not a spud mentally, and should be able to make decisions for herself.

But she said in one of her posts how she'd never had a Pap smear or had contraception offered to her, but she's also a fully grown adult doing sex work and should take some responsibility for her own health. She's likely been babied her whole life and enjoys infantilising herself.

I presume we are talking about the Ashley treament. Just linking it for information purposes.
@Turtlebees they are just having him tested now.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I've gotten into arguments with other women on multiple occasions, who've said that 'having children is an intrinsic human right' and that 'any woman, disabled or not, has the right to have children'. Alex and her young lover are the perfect examples of why these so-called rights should not be. Physically, mentally, emotionally, medically, genetically, financially, sexually... these people should neither of them reproduce, and they have reproduced with each other. This is what happens when two narcs have access to a uterus and society has an automatic knee jerk at the idea of 'eugenics'. It should be drilled into all children as soon as they can walk, that reproduction is a privilege and not a fucking right. Genetic counseling should be mandatory, as should behavioural tests for would-be parents. There are too many broken children in the world who should never have been born and broken morons who should never have been allowed to reproduce.

I don’t want eugenics implemented because of these assholes. We’re talking about a tiny percentage of the population. Who gets to decide what the standards are for the behavioral tests? And financial stability? Ultra wealthy people could effectively kill off everyone else by hoarding wealth and then wrecking the economy. Who’s to stop them? Whoever is in charge could even have eugenics for conditions that might be environmental or arbitrarily diagnosed, like nearsightedness, allergies, and ADHD.

Once you give the government that kind of power, there is nothing to stop them from going full Khmer Rouge.

It won’t even work. Officials will be bribed, random mutations will happen, and tard babies will continue to be born. With humans deciding what’s best, it would be possible that something gets missed, or we start breeding for traits that are actually negative in some situation. Then inbreeding pressure would have everyone looking like they’re in the Habsburg bloodline.

Just sit back and watch the shitshow
unfold, dude.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Yeah, de novo genetic cases, birth injuries, accidents and disabilities will still exist. You can be disabled at any age really. Cancer for example, a car accident, an animal bite, a worksite injury. You just don’t know what can happen.

 

[Android raptor]

Yeah I think it's important to remember that Alex isn't every disabled mother, and she isn't a lolcow for choosing to continue a pregnancy while disabled. She'd also be a cow even if she wasn't disabled.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

I don’t want eugenics implemented because of these assholes. We’re talking about a tiny percentage of the population. Who gets to decide what the standards are for the behavioral tests? And financial stability? Ultra wealthy people could effectively kill off everyone else by hoarding wealth and then wrecking the economy. Who’s to stop them? Whoever is in charge could even have eugenics for conditions that might be environmental or arbitrarily diagnosed, like nearsightedness, allergies, and ADHD.

Once you give the government that kind of power, there is nothing to stop them from going full Khmer Rouge.

It won’t even work. Officials will be bribed, random mutations will happen, and tard babies will continue to be born. With humans deciding what’s best, it would be possible that something gets missed, or we start breeding for traits that are actually negative in some situation. Then inbreeding pressure would have everyone looking like they’re in the Habsburg bloodline.

Just sit back and watch the shitshow
unfold, dude.

All I’m saying is if she’s my daughter and I’m taking care of every single bodily need, she’s getting long-term birth control starting at puberty. If for nothing else hygiene purposes.
I realize that boat has sailed, but any doctor would have advised the parents to deal with this potential problem during puberty. What if the parents died and she ended up in a facility and gets raped? Ethics schmethics, this is monstrous to allow her to get pregnant.

 

[A tree]

All I’m saying is if she’s my daughter and I’m taking care of every single bodily need, she’s getting long-term birth control starting at puberty. If for nothing else hygiene purposes.
I realize that boat has sailed, but any doctor would have advised the parents to deal with this potential problem during puberty. What if the parents died and she ended up in a facility and gets raped? Ethics schmethics, this is monstrous to allow her to get pregnant.

I think what this hypothetical you or in this case mother and father wheelchairrapunzel should have done/could do would be apply for a consevatorship or POA type arrangement.
We all saw how that went down with the public regarding Britney spears. People were outraged that she was forced onto birth control but if you saw the social media posts Britney started putting out once the conservatorship was lifted I have to say It became apparent maybe the girl ain't right after all.
The media attention seems to have moved on pretty fast. Maybe the reality didn't match the narrative too well.


Societally no matter what the rightoids of kiwifarms will insist there is no other way around this than a robust social safety net even if that does mean we all have to swallow our frustration when people get stuff they didn't earn or deserve.
You can't stop children being born to parents who can't care for them you can only deal with the consequences.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Robyn posted about this girl today:

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

Robyn posted about this girl today:
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based Danielle

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

Robyn posted about this girl today:

Girl just saying what everyone else is thinking. What kind of maniac wants to have sex with her in the first place, let alone impregnate her? A total deviant and probable pedo, that's who.

 

[Simon]

Robyn posted about this girl today:
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But...but...I know it sounds harsh, the way it was said, but it's absolutely true. Disabled people have every right to procreate, if they are able to take care of a child. She cannot, at all.

 

[Free the Pedos]

All I’m saying is if she’s my daughter and I’m taking care of every single bodily need, she’s getting long-term birth control starting at puberty. If for nothing else hygiene purposes.
I realize that boat has sailed, but any doctor would have advised the parents to deal with this potential problem during puberty. What if the parents died and she ended up in a facility and gets raped? Ethics schmethics, this is monstrous to allow her to get pregnant.

I've read that many parents of disabled teens and adults choose to have them sterilized or on BC because they're so much more likely to be sexually abused, too.

 

[For The Internet]

This is honestly horrifying. Without getting into unnecessary detail, I was born with issues that meant some organs weren't in the right place and that I have less than 40% lung function in one lung. I was given very earnest (and pretty scary) warnings from doctors as I got older that any pregnancy I had would be extremely high risk for me and the fetus. It was enough to make me sure I shouldn't have kids and I'm nowhere near as fucked up as Alex. If it's that serious for me with just one fucked up lung and a few misplaced organs it really drives home how insane the risks are for her. She's essentially playing russian roulette for herself and the kid on multiple levels. It's insanity.

So I guess I'm looking at her condition in absolute horror, then I'm just so disgusted by this guy who would actually nut in her when he knows how fucked up her body is. He clearly doesn't give a single shit about her, or about the fetus. If he can't be her carer now how's he think he's going to manage with her and a newborn, and with whatever potential issues they both could have. He's going to bail, and her poor parents are going to raise that kid if it survives. I wonder if she'll struggle to bond if she can't hold, feed, play with the baby and so forth? That's assuming it doesn't kill her.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was no genetic counseling. I've seen plenty of disabled pregnant mothers say they won't do any screening because it's ableist or even outright eugenics. Sure, they said they're doing it, but that doesn't mean they will.

 

[Spunt]

There's a big difference, morally, between "people should not do this" and "people should be prevented by law from doing this", though in our current political climate many people have forgotten the distinction. I have the right to drive 20 below the speed limit, but that doesn't mean I should. I have the right to knock on all my neighbours doors and try to preach my religious or political views to them, but that doesn't mean I should. I have the right to block the supermarket aisle with my trolley and chat on my phone for an hour, but that doesn't mean I should.

This woman has the right to have a baby, but that doesn't mean she should.