TGWTG Allison Pregler / Obscurus Lupa / Movie Nights - The vindictive leader of #ChangeTheChannel, GOTIS personified, vendetta against The Cinema Snob

[ComeoutandJULAY]

Regarding Doug, I remember people in the #ChangeTheChannel doc bitching about how he didn't seem to take the rise of social media seriously back in the early 2010s. Yeah, places like Twitter are obviously a good way to get your name out there and have more people interested in your work, but I think in the long run his relative inactivity on social has done more help than harm for his career. He's still a gigantic spastic who can't take criticism, but at least he keeps his spergery confined to his actual content and is better at hiding his thin skin than most ex-CA producers are. This is especially evident in his tendency to avoid drama—you typically won't see him get into screaming matches with Linkara or anything like that. Why else do people like James Rolfe and JonTron survive seemingly massive controversies and remain popular even to this day? Because they don't bother feeding the mobs perpetually itching to be outraged by the slightest things.

As weird as it sounds, Lupa could truly learn a lot from Doug by taking his approach to an online presence. She could focus more on just making good content and honing her craft along the way. She could even address criticism in her videos if need be. But she doesn't do any of those things. She's not talented, charismatic, funny, clever, productive, or even passionate enough for her "work" to stand on its own. I'm not even convinced she has a dedicated viewership in the first place. Seriously, who watches her shit? It's not like her appearances on other shows like Todd in the Shadows were so amazing that people just had to check her out. And the people who orbit her on Twitter only seem to like her out of pity more than genuine admiration of who she is or what she does. Lupa is an abject failure through and through, and that's why she thrives solely off of drama to get any semblance of attention. That's why instead of trying to better herself at her job, she wastes her time whining on Twitter for pity points about the most minor of inconveniences. She's always the victim, and it's everyone else's fault but her own.

God, fuck this woman. Not literally.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Regarding Doug, I remember people in the #ChangeTheChannel doc bitching about how he didn't seem to take the rise of social media seriously back in the early 2010s. Yeah, places like Twitter are obviously a good way to get your name out there and have more people interested in your work, but I think in the long run his relative inactivity on social has done more help than harm for his career.

All I've heard of the social media game regarding complaints was that CA was averse to Patreon and wouldn't let people promote their Patreon pages, even if that was helping their sole source of income (making videos).

 

[FrankNBeans]

All I've heard of the social media game regarding complaints was that CA was averse to Patreon and wouldn't let people promote their Patreon pages, even if that was helping their sole source of income (making videos).

Even that looks like it has more context than what was given. It seems they were leery of Patreon at first, and didn't understand it, but then when they did they let people promote their Patreons. People were advertising their Patreons on CA well before CtC happened, so it was a problem that had already fixed itself.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

I think Doug is like that too.

I wouldn't go that far. I think he is grateful that he can make a living doing videos, but he also clearly wanted to move on to bigger and better things. When he couldn't hack it, he did accept it and went back to his niche though, unlike Lupa.

Even that looks like it has more context than what was given. It seems they were leery of Patreon at first, and didn't understand it, but then when they did they let people promote their Patreons. People were advertising their Patreons on CA well before CtC happened, so it was a problem that had already fixed itself.

CTC in general was about addressing problems that had already fixed themselves. The big CTC people like Allison claimed it was about getting CA to stop these practices, but when Tamara and Malcolm came forward and said that they hadn't had those issues and their experience working for CA was totally different (which makes sense, they were the first real employees CA took on, everyone else was just sharing a website and did some cross promotion) they brushed them off.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

CTC in general was about addressing problems that had already fixed themselves. The big CTC people like Allison claimed it was about getting CA to stop these practices, but when Tamara and Malcolm came forward and said that they hadn't had those issues and their experience working for CA was totally different (which makes sense, they were the first real employees CA took on, everyone else was just sharing a website and did some cross promotion) they brushed them off.

CTC at it's core was about a bunch of spergs like Lupa who had vendettas against Doug and his crew trying to lead a lynch mob against them. Workplace issues were only a weapon to be used at the higher ups. Especially when content creators were bringing up drama outside of Doug and Michaud.

Like Dan Olson being fucking unbearable and trying to run the place like he owned it. Lupa didn't seem to care at all about that. Nor did someone like Lindsay who actually spent her portion of the CTC document defending Olson from his critics.

 

[FrankNBeans]

 

[Doctor Placebo]

CTC at it's core was about a bunch of spergs like Lupa who had vendettas against Doug and his crew trying to lead a lynch mob against them. Workplace issues were only a weapon to be used at the higher ups. Especially when content creators were bringing up drama outside of Doug and Michaud.

Like Dan Olson being fucking unbearable and trying to run the place like he owned it. Lupa didn't seem to care at all about that. Nor did someone like Lindsay who actually spent her portion of the CTC document defending Olson from his critics.

It was about personal vendettas, but more than that it was about using the drama to harvest clicks. Doug was the target because he was high profile and none of them had a use for him anymore, with the exceptions of Linkara and ERod who jumped on very late and are overcompensating now by being the most loyal to Lupa as a means of justifying their sunk-cost cuckery and back-stabbing to themselves.

Like you said, none of them were able to take out their personal vendettas against Dan Olson because Lindsay shielded him. They even tried to hide JewWario's real legacy, despite that being the single worst thing that happened at CA by a country mile, because there was no way to use it without making some of their inner circle look bad. It was all political in the worst way.

 

[Random Internet Person]

They even tried to hide JewWario's real legacy, despite that being the single worst thing that happened at CA by a country mile, because there was no way to use it without making some of their inner circle look bad. It was all political in the worst way.

Honestly, I'll always say that the JewWario revelations were the thing keeping CtC from destroying Doug completely. It killed their momentum.

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

Honestly, I'll always say that the JewWario revelations were the thing keeping CtC from destroying Doug completely. It killed their momentum.

Honestly, had the JewWario stuff not come to light, they still wouldn't have been able to take Doug down. #ChangeTheChannel would have just stagnated and eventually gone out with a whimper rather than a bang like it actually had.

I know it's been stated here time and time again, but Doug's audience is mainly comprised of little kids and manchildren who haven't yet outgrown his "humor." You couldn't pick a following that could be any more detached from any behind-the-scenes drama from years ago than that, and sure enough a TL;DR 70-page document failed to shake them out of their ignorance and/or apathy. As for the people who did outgrow Doug, all of the complaints aimed at him had to do with the guy thinking he was more talented than he actually was/is and all around just being a man in over his head. That wasn't news for anyone who had been following Channel Awesome drama for years up until that point, and it didn't destroy Doug then, so the doc that added literally nothing new about him to the table ultimately proved to be useless as a weapon against him.

And that's why Lupa's ass has been chapped for the past two years (it's always been chapped, but especially since #CTC). That's why she's still pissed even after she and her crew essentially killed CA. I've said it before and I'll say it again—to her it was never about trying to improve the conditions of the site or trying to help Michaud and the Walkers become better managers. She wants Doug in the fucking gutter selling coke to random gangsters from across the street until he's six feet under. Her behavior since JewWario was exposed says it all.

That said, I do agree that the reveal of the mysterious groomer everyone had been trying to figure out did end up putting Lupa and co. on defense as people began questioning them more and more, and it was clearly the point where #CTC hit its peak, with CA just bleeding contributors left and right after everything was out in the open. From there there was no other place for it to go but down. If Brad (and Larry, don't forget Larry) wouldn't budge from the site then, he certainly won't now—especially now that Allison is hell-bent on destroying him, too.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Honestly, had the JewWario stuff not come to light, they still wouldn't have been able to take Doug down. #ChangeTheChannel would have just stagnated and eventually gone out with a whimper rather than a bang like it actually had.

I know it's been stated here time and time again, but Doug's audience is mainly comprised of little kids and manchildren who haven't yet outgrown his "humor." You couldn't pick a following that could be any more detached from any behind-the-scenes drama from years ago than that, and sure enough a TL;DR 70-page document failed to shake them out of their ignorance and/or apathy. As for the people who did outgrow Doug, all of the complaints aimed at him had to do with the guy thinking he was more talented than he actually was/is and all around just being a man in over his head. That wasn't news for anyone who had been following Channel Awesome drama for years up until that point, and it didn't destroy Doug then, so the doc that added literally nothing new about him to the table ultimately proved to be useless as a weapon against him.

And that's why Lupa's ass has been chapped for the past two years (it's always been chapped, but especially since #CTC). That's why she's still pissed even after she and her crew essentially killed CA. I've said it before and I'll say it again—to her it was never about trying to improve the conditions of the site or trying to help Michaud and the Walkers become better managers. She wants Doug in the fucking gutter selling coke to random gangsters from across the street until he's six feet under. Her behavior since JewWario was exposed says it all.

That said, I do agree that the reveal of the mysterious groomer everyone had been trying to figure out did end up putting Lupa and co. on defense as people began questioning them more and more, and it was clearly the point where #CTC hit its peak, with CA just bleeding contributors left and right after everything was out in the open. From there there was no other place for it to go but down. If Brad (and Larry, don't forget Larry) wouldn't budge from the site then, he certainly won't now—especially now that Allison is hell-bent on destroying him, too.

I get all that, but what I’m saying that if it wasn’t for IW, your whole “Doug forced to grovel and do things he’d never do to survive” thing had a better chance of coming to pass. And maybe Allison would also probably move to Brad for not openly disavowing her sworn enemy to the extent she has.

 

[ComeoutandJULAY]

I get all that, but what I’m saying that if it wasn’t for IW, your whole “Doug forced to grovel and do things he’d never do to survive” thing had a better chance of coming to pass. And maybe Allison would also probably move to Brad for not openly disavowing her sworn enemy to the extent she has.

Perhaps. Hadn't the JewWario thing come out, the #CTC side would have probably continued to press Doug for a response to all the accusations against him set forth by the doc. They wouldn't have had as much baggage as they do now, so the ball would have been entirely in Doug's court to address the situation. Though I don't know how successful they would have been in getting an answer straight from him given his apparent allergy to drama, which is why I think their hashtag would have hit an impasse. He would have just had Rob or Michaud answer for him like he always does.

Which brings me to this: the catalyst for JewWario's eventual outing was the second of two "apologies" carved out by the site itself. If no one had ever found out who the predator was, CA would have probably just put out more statements speaking on behalf of Doug until it ran out of things to say, further keeping the movement from going anywhere. Moreover, contributors wouldn't have left the site in droves the way they actually did after the identity of predator was revealed. As of right now, Lupa really hates Brad because he has been the only producer to prove himself loyal to Doug and CA. I assume if the groomer had remained a mystery Allison would have had a vendetta against everyone who didn't jump ship including Brad, but at the same time her hateboner for him wouldn't have been as big because he wouldn't have been the only one to stay on the site.

Now I'm really curious—how would #ChangeTheChannel have gone down if JewWario was never outed?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Which brings me to this: the catalyst for JewWario's eventual outing was the second of two "apologies" carved out by the site itself. If no one had ever found out who the predator was, CA would have probably just put out more statements speaking on behalf of Doug until it ran out of things to say, further keeping the movement from going anywhere. Moreover, contributors wouldn't have left the site in droves the way they actually did after the identity of predator was revealed. As of right now, Lupa really hates Brad because he has been the only producer to prove himself loyal to Doug and CA.

From what I remember, some if not most of the people leaving didn't have much to do with JW, at least those who explained their reasoning. I remember Diamanda Hagan saying that she was upset she wasn't going to be in the 10th anniversary (apparently it meant a lot her for how long she was on the site, at least that stuck out to me) and some video game reviewer said that after CA's second response, he felt that he couldn't stick around since he felt CA wouldn't learn anything from the situation. If there are any more statements or explanations, they're buried somewhere in Doug's thread.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

From what I remember, some if not most of the people leaving didn't have much to do with JW, at least those who explained their reasoning. I remember Diamanda Hagan saying that she was upset she wasn't going to be in the 10th anniversary (apparently it meant a lot her for how long she was on the site, at least that stuck out to me) and some video game reviewer said that after CA's second response, he felt that he couldn't stick around since he felt CA wouldn't learn anything from the situation.

I know ERod was pissed that the 10th anniversary special was cancelled because he was supposed to be in it. It was going to be his first, real, time interacting with everybody and not just appearing in a video with somebody else. THAT was part of the reason he left. He was promised a part in their little ego-fest and it was taken away from him.

But in his case I can almost understand why. He's literally shit-tier when it comes to internet reviews. How many years has he been doing this and he literally hasn't cracked 20K subs yet? He was probably thinking that this was going to get him more subs meaning more ad revenue.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Now I'm really curious—how would #ChangeTheChannel have gone down if JewWario was never outed?

Fair and simple: "Brad is the grooming pedo!"
Especially if he was the last long-term contributor.

From what I remember, some if not most of the people leaving didn't have much to do with JW, at least those who explained their reasoning. I remember Diamanda Hagan saying that she was upset she wasn't going to be in the 10th anniversary (apparently it meant a lot her for how long she was on the site, at least that stuck out to me) and some video game reviewer said that after CA's second response, he felt that he couldn't stick around since he felt CA wouldn't learn anything from the situation. If there are any more statements or explanations, they're buried somewhere in Doug's thread.

Many left due to peer pressure and monkey-see-monkey-do, I guess. They saw others leave in droves and feared they'd look bad for staying or got trashtalked into leaving. Wonder how many of these insignificant fucks severely regretted leaving in the end. Do we know of youtubers who were forced to quit?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Many left due to peer pressure and monkey-see-monkey-do, I guess. They saw others leave in droves and feared they'd look bad for staying or got trashtalked into leaving. Wonder how many of these insignificant fucks severely regretted leaving in the end. Do we know of youtubers who were forced to quit?

Linkara was pressured into it, and probably had to so he could do his audio drama, though I bet he regrets it since his views have dropped since then.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Linkara was pressured into it, and probably had to so he could do his audio drama, though I bet he regrets it since his views have dropped since then.

Linkara said his audio drama was in the works for a while, but he also had what some saw as shots at CA and both him and ERod put out Twitter threads that basically said Linkara is a better director than Doug in Linkara's nice guy ego stroking.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Sometimes you just feel the need to poke your head in to see how things are going.

https://twitter.com/erodbuster1/status/1297638175377174530?s=21

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[Jumbo Gay Threat]

Sometimes you just feel the need to poke your head in to see how things are going.

https://twitter.com/erodbuster1/status/1297638175377174530?s=21

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Wow, Erod just has no self awareness of how cringy he truly is and that is fucking sad.

 

[FrankNBeans]

Sometimes you just feel the need to poke your head in to see how things are going.

https://twitter.com/erodbuster1/status/1297638175377174530?s=21

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Lupa constantly gets her ass handed to her by people outing that she's a lying psychopath, such as her neighbor exposing her abuse and dishonesty. She's constantly triggered by even the slightest form of criticism and uses hurt feelings as justification for targeting people's lives and families. It's rendered her completely friendless in her entire state.

I guess that's not as worthy of outrage to Erod as "disrespect of magic hammers."

 

[Random Internet Person]

Lupa constantly gets her ass handed to her by people outing that she's a lying psychopath, such as her neighbor exposing her abuse and dishonesty. She's constantly triggered by even the slightest form of criticism and uses hurt feelings as justification for targeting people's lives and families. It's rendered her completely friendless in her entire state.

I guess that's not as worthy of outrage to Erod as "disrespect of magic hammers."

Well, he’s had one reply so far.