Amazon Studios to develop series based on Fallout

[L Ton Tubbard]

Has anyone mentioned how this is pretty much The Force Awakens 2.0? Because it is, right down to the hatred of the older fans, the new-bad guys(the brotherhood) getting a new makeover nobody liked or wanted and the token negro. It's uncanny how similar the two are.

Bethesda has been doing the same thing Disney did to Star Wars, just slower and in a different medium. Even FO3 a lot of fans of the series complained about all the liberties Bethesda took, and FO4 basically threw any pretense of being a serious roleplaying game out the window.

 

[I've Seen Some More Shit]

Saying this from the perspective of an aggressive NVfag in the midst of his 800th playthrough and hates Bethesda:
Emil Fagliarulo says New Vegas is canon (and also just outright canonizes Tactics?):
(link) (archive in case this nigger backtracks)

He states there's a 15 year window between New Vegas and the show. 15 years is a pretty feasible timespan for shit to go full retard, especially in a shithole like the Fallout setting. NCR turning bandit in that time is over the top, but not impossible - a stable government only lasts as long as its most competent heads. Rwanda went from almost normal to full nig incredibly fast once the Belgians left.

Additionally, there's no date slated on that timeline chalkboard for the nuking, and it isn't just where "the fall of Shady Sands" is. It could mean NCR as a whole just falling apart, which New Vegas was outright warning was on the precipice of happening as it was spread too thin, its economy too beaten up, and the attempt to claim Hoover Dam being too expensive from all fronts. I could see it falling apart in damn near every ending, even the NCR one depending on how it goes. Plus there were numerous indicators that the Mojave was relatively fucked regardless of what you do even without Lonesome Road or Dead Money's local issues being stated to be moving towards the Mojave.

The final shot also shows a (slightly) less dilapidated Mojave before showing off the New Vegas ruins, meaning if this piece of shit somehow gets a second season, they'll have opportunity to explain what the fuck they're peddling.

This doesn't justify shit like completely 180ing Robert House's character or the Enclave still existing or cold fusion being achieved, but I'm pretty sure this isn't an attempt to completely decanonize New Vegas, just an attempt to snuff out having to focus on any minutiae from the game.

And the show is shit anyways and I can still play New Vegas, so I ultimately don't care that much.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

Some journoscum wrote a “lmao deal with it” article this past hour. https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/i...ut-show-to-retcon-non-bethesda-fallout-games/

 

[Breadbassket]

Bethesda and caring about any kind of canon goes together like Cyrodiil and jungles and New Vegas and nukes.

They had the easy out of just saying the show isn't canon and is its own thing and yet here we are.

 

[30+GameOvers]

When the agenda is the exact same it makes it easy to fall into a formula.

No I mean it, the negro is the carbon copy of the one from Force Awakens even. It's certainly the Force Awakens of this decade so far, that's for sure, and I am afraid Fallout will also turn out like Soy Wars have by the end of it.
Sure, it may happen to many franchises today, but nobody really cares about XYZ adaptation that most fans don't even pay attention to. Star Wars and Fallout, on the other hand? Very popular franchises with rich lore and history, destroy that and that's when you have a shitshow on your hands.

He states there's a 15 year window between New Vegas and the show. 15 years is a pretty feasible timespan for shit to go full retard, especially in a shithole like the Fallout setting. NCR turning bandit in that time is over the top, but not impossible - a stable government only lasts as long as its most competent heads. Rwanda went from almost normal to full nig incredibly fast once the Belgians left.

Problem is that Shady Sands is nuked in 2277, the same year as Fallout 3 takes place and first battle of Hoover Dam happens...4 years before start of New Vegas. That means that entire game is just straight up retconned, period, and it's uncertain if House didn't have a hand in nuking(which would be retarded, considering his entire plan hitches on earning capitol from NCR tourists). There is no room for headcannon, at this point West Coast ceases to exists past 2277, which makes sense in a meta way when you consider that Fallout 3 was also Bethesda's first game and the true downfall of the franchise.
It's safe to say everyone should put about as much effort into thinking this thru as the writers did in doing their research, which is to say nearly none. Either the Amazon show exists and the West Coast Fallout games don't, or vice versa, there is no way for the two to coexist without major character and setting rewrites anyways.

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

Guess my gut feeling was right as I tried watching this drunk last night. It ticked every box for woke bullshit.

They call the cowboy a Pinko, they show his nappy headed daughter, they immediately set the scene for the main character as a broodmare. And I just shut it off.

I'm probably brain rotted by the culture war at this point, but that shit was immediately pozzed up. No thanks, not supporting it with my eyes.

I’ve only watched the first episode but most the bullshit I expected was in just that one episode. There’s a tranny BoS initiate that think’s she’s a man. Did anyone else notice the Elder referred to her as they/them/their like twice? Everything now has to reinforce these peoples’ mental illness. Where is this initiate getting her HRT from in the post-apocalypse? Is that going to be something tolerated by the BoS. “Initiate Maximus, can you identify which of these compounds is progesterone, estrogen and androgen? We must acquire the advanced sex-reassignment technology of this once great nation, brothers!”


Bitch, you are not a man. We get what we get in this life, can’t beat Mother Nature.

If they made Aliens today, they’d give Vasquez a puberty mustache, call her PFC Juan Vasquez, Hudson would respect her pronouns, and her helmet would have “Kill All TERFS” scrawled on it. Can’t just make a one-of-the-boys character a dyke or a tomboy anymore. We need some sort of great cataclysm to reset the world, frens.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

They had the easy out of just saying the show isn't canon and is its own thing and yet here we are.

I don't know how many times I've said this on the internet over the past five years, but everyone really needs to get over the word "canon"

It's all made up bullshit. Made up bullshit by people who most in here didn't even like. Who the fuck cares if Bethesda says anything is canon?

Mikey Kirkbride has the right fucking idea. You're the god damn god of what's in your head.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

"corpos conspired to end the world on their terms to rule the ashes forever, because... BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN, OK"
Man, this is really what leftoids think of their corporate friends and turn it into a slop series based on midwit vidya from the late 90s. It's fucking hilarious. The cowboy ghoul was the only cool part of this series, you can't change my mind.

 

[Kerr Avon]

nigger niggers niggers. The Brotherhood Of Steel guy can't be seen at night unless he smiles.

I've watched 3 episodes. It's mildly entertaining.

Finally a reasonable take on the shitshow

 

[I've Seen Some More Shit]

Problem is that Shady Sands is nuked in 2277

I actually addressed that. It just says "the fall of Shady Sands" in 2277. Nothing about the nuking. The mushroom cloud is a separate part of the timeline. I think this is intentional weasel wording by the writers because they didn't want to do their research so autists like me would explain shit for them.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

Problem is that Shady Sands is nuked in 2277, the same year as Fallout 3 takes place and first battle of Hoover Dam happens...4 years before start of New Vegas. That means that entire game is just straight up retconned, period, and it's uncertain if House didn't have a hand in nuking(which would be retarded, considering his entire plan hitches on earning capitol from NCR tourists). There is no room for headcannon, at this point West Coast ceases to exists past 2277, which makes sense in a meta way when you consider that Fallout 3 was also Bethesda's first game and the true downfall of the franchise.
It's safe to say everyone should put about as much effort into thinking this thru as the writers did in doing their research, which is to say nearly none. Either the Amazon show exists and the West Coast Fallout games don't, or vice versa, there is no way for the two to coexist without major character and setting rewrites anyways.

After digging deeper into the issue, it seems like there might be some confusion about the entire chalkboard scene, at least according to the fanboys and some higher-ups. They say that the date, 2277, isn't actually the year Shady Sands got nuked, instead it's supposed to be some decade marker used to measure when the decline of the NCR started to happen. The arrow pointing to the mushroom cloud is supposed to represent a time skip to the alleged real nuking of the city sometime after the second battle of the Hoover Dam in 2282.

Here's a crude edit of the chalkboard explaining it in the way the producers intended at least that's what the fanboys are saying trying to save face, but the problem is that the Shady Sands thing was explained so poorly that the average viewer wouldn't be at fault for assuming this crappy timeline did point to 2277 being the nuke date. I mean this all could have been avoided by having "2290" or something below the fucking mushroom cloud image just to clarify this extremely important moment in the story. So New Vegas is still canon apparently but that just leaves us with the equally retarded explanation that the somehow nuclear-capable Super Vault Tek can just destroy anything it wants now even though the Enclave couldn't do anything near that in the actual games. Reatrded all around really. At least it doesn't utterly destroy the lore so we can forget about it in a year.

 

[I've Seen Some More Shit]

The bigger issue is House being on board with America being nuked. House's character is entirely built around the fact he did not want nuclear war to happen at all because there's no profit in it nor does he normally maintain power in a post-nuclear world. He panickedly, hurriedly prepared absolutely everything he could to protect as much of his stomping grounds as possible before the bombs fell to the point even when the bombs came early he was still able to repress the majority of them with his defense systems. His failure to stop it literally motivated him to want to try to uplift humanity around his cult of personality for the sake of making them progress past the need for nukes (while also worshiping him along the way). The characterization depicted in the TV show with him being on-board with the destruction of the world is completely out of tune with everything we've seen about him, and not even in a rectifiable way.

 

[WonderWino]

"What's the experiment of this vault?"
"Prolonged race mixing and the physical and mental deficiencies that arise from it."

You do realize that was literally the experiment going on in vault 15, which later created shady sands and the NCR right? They deliberately threw a bunch of different groups and races, many of which were antagonistic toward each other into the vault to see what would happen

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

You do realize that was literally the experiment going on in vault 15, which later created shady sands and the NCR right?

I honestly can't be assed to remember any of the vault experiments that aren't just cloning a dude named Gary tbqh

 

[thog]

Years ago, I came to terms with the fact that we're probably not getting another decent Fallout game for a while, if ever. I'll just treat this like I treat Disney's Star Wars: I didn't watch it, therefore it doesn't exist. Hate-watching is for retards who are incapable of breaking their consoomer chains.

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

Because it is, right down to the hatred of the older fans

Star Wars already did that years before. It was called The Phantom Menace.

 

[NPZCC]

Years ago, I came to terms with the fact that we're probably not getting another decent Fallout game for a while

You might want to come to terms with the fact that you'll never play a good Fallout game ever again.

 

[Willie B. Hardigan]

The bigger issue is House being on board with America being nuked. House's character is entirely built around the fact he did not want nuclear war to happen at all because there's no profit in it nor does he normally maintain power in a post-nuclear world. He panickedly, hurriedly prepared absolutely everything he could to protect as much of his stomping grounds as possible before the bombs fell to the point even when the bombs came early he was still able to repress the majority of them with his defense systems. His failure to stop it literally motivated him to want to try to uplift humanity around his cult of personality for the sake of making them progress past the need for nukes (while also worshiping him along the way). The characterization depicted in the TV show with him being on-board with the destruction of the world is completely out of tune with everything we've seen about him, and not even in a rectifiable way.

Nobody in the Pre-War world wanted the Great Nuclear War to happen because as you said, doing so would jeopardize their plans, country, or special group interest. The American elites or government wouldn't rule over anybody anymore, Vault Tek was just a big Enclave-sponsored research experiment while also collecting cash from paranoid people, and even Communist China probably had reservations about launching the missiles even if they were losing by 2077.

It'd probably make more sense for a nuclear false alarm incident to be the real reason why the nuclear missiles were launched like what almost happened in 1983. The series made it pretty clear that arguing over who technically started the war was worthless or didn't matter, but the show decided, "Nah the evil Vault Tek did it, capitalism am'iright?" which just shits on the core messages of the games in general.

I know sucking off New Vegas is getting annoying to a lot of people but it was the perfect ending to the original storyline because at that point it was no longer post-apocalyptic and instead just a new round of civilizations duking it out. Modern Fallout wants there to always be a constant wasteland which is why they destroyed the NCR outright or sent it back to the tribal level again. They couldn't handle building upon the lore so why not just make Fallout 3 again?

 

[The handsome tard]

Friendly reminder: don't hate watch and don't pirate. Let it die in the dark.

This.
For fuck's sakes people, hate watching is still watching it. If you MUST watch it, sail the high seas.

Okay so we're introduced to Lucy, who is this high adept female the pinnacle of what a Vault Dweller should be. But her problem is that there's no men in her vault who are suitable for marriage especially because they fear the effects of incest. So they have an arranged marriage with the neighboring Vault. And the big twist is that this Vault is actually Raiders who assumingly killed the actual neighboring Vault and then put on that Vault's clothing to then raid Lucy's Vault. Lucy realizes her new hubbie is a Raider because he has high levels of radiation (she realizes this with her Pip Boy). WHY DIDN'T ANYONE AT THE VAULT CHECK THEIR RADIATION LEVELS BEFORE LETTING THEM ALL IN AND HAVING A MARRIAGE?

The whole situation seemed to be like "Remember Vault 3?". Either that or its a rip off of its concept.

Not a fan. Decided to look up who helped write the show and... it's Geneva Robertson-Dworet.

She helped create and produce the show (and is credited as a co-writer for the first couple episodes), as well co-write the story and screenplay for the 2018 Tomb Raider reboot and the 2019 Captain Marvel movie. Those appear to be the only other credits her Wiki page deemed noteworthy enough too lol. So the strong female protagonist suddenly makes sense.
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Her kind always fail upwards, as usual.

Oh its worse. Its on par with the Resident Evil movies.

Which ones? At least the ones with Alice were so out there that they might as well be their own thing and its fun in the dumbest way possible.

The other movie and series tho? Peak garbage that seems on par with this series.

I'm seeing people mention that with the way Brotherhood is, the Brotherhood ending in Fallout 4 might be "canon" here.
Speaking of which, I'm seeing a lot of coping, seething and damage control on both /tv/ and /fog/. They will try and claim that this is the best thing since sliced bread and the only reason that the "fans" didn't like it was because the fans are toxic and don't know better(like they did with Last of Us 2).

 

[TheHarbinger]

Modern Fallout wants there to always be a constant wasteland which is why they destroyed the NCR outright or sent it back to the tribal level again. They couldn't handle building upon the lore so why not just make Fallout 3 again?

Fallout is not post apocalyptic. It's post post apocalyptic. Two centuries beyond the actual fallout of the Great Wars. Where humanity has been rebuilding civilization and surviving and sustaining itself. It's not the same as other series that often get referenced as being similar 'post apocalyptic' franchises. As those are usually set mere months or years after the apocalypse. Or sometimes actually during which would make them just apocalyptic.

Bethesda never understood this. Hence Fallout 3 and beyond having their entire cities littered with trash and no one having any sources of food or clean water. The premise of Fallout 3 is that the entire Capital Wasteland hasn't had potable water for two-hundred straight years. Fallout 76 was even more absurd with people battling raider groups, deathclaws, and supermutants under the atomic clouds like those existed mere seconds after the bombs dropped. Because for them this franchise is apocalyptic. Like 28 Days later or Dawn of the Dead. Their brains cannot understand that the first game takes place twenty decades after the bombs dropped.

Look at the show. The sets look like they are from five years after the bombs dropped. As nothing is cleaned up. Dead burned up families from the bombs are still sitting at their kitchen tables. Cities and towns have zero infrastructure. No running water after two-hundred-years? And the computers and light-bulbs still work in the cities after all this time? They turn the power on with the cold fusion reactor and literally every light source magically turns on like the world has really only been post the apocalypse for months and not centuries.

People can debate what is canon and not all they want. But the Bethesda writing and world building is pathetic. Nolan is a hack as well.