Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
That, plus everybody being overemotional buffoons
You would think that with the near death experiences they been on and what their up against, their threshold for bs would be higher and they would make discrepancies for what Cecil is doing which I don't think he's doing anything wrong,
 
The Immortal is such a fucking dick, I seriously can't stand him.
I love him. He and Dupli-Kate turn out to be one of the strongest couples in the comics.

1739095014303.jpeg

They should have included this scene in the fight against Doc Sismic.
 
I like the show, it's not insulting. But like are they just proving that omni-man was right? The maulers kept getting imprisoned despite being psychos and one of their last actions was launching a nuclear missile to save their own lives. That, plus everybody being overemotional buffoons. Pretty much everything fell apart after omni-man left. I'm not sure if anyone knows just how much danger there is.
they pissed off a militaristic race of super mans and tried to in effect enslave their loyal human one
cecil is still a stupid glowie at the end of the day
 
One thing I'm noticing about all the animation talk is that no one seems to know what's actually happening but they're jumping to these insane conclusions.
The animators aren't being paid, they're being abused, they have impossible deadlines.
Maybe they're just not very good. Twitter seems to have this obsession with the idea of workers never being in the wrong.
 
One thing I'm noticing about all the animation talk is that no one seems to know what's actually happening.
We literally know exactly what happened. The show has its animation made in China and South Korea like many other Western shows. The Chinese company that is supposed to be making the animations just outsources their work to a North Korean labor farm for cheap and pockets the rest of the money. This has been a thing in animation for decades. Where you have a Chinese company act as your middle man to use North Korean labor. We actually have unreleased Invincible art frames and animation that leaked from a North Korean animation company which is how Amazon got caught in the first place. Though seeing how poor the animation is in this show lots of people guessed correctly that it was being done in North Korea by slave labor.

Marvel, Simpsons, Futurama, Amazon shows, and lots of other companies have done this. Bender's Big Score the Futurama movie was literally done entirely by a North Korean animation studio using slave labor. But usually the animation isn't the most cheap looking job like Invincible where the show seems frozen half of the time. Nothing ever happens of course because these are all cartoons owned by companies like Fox or Amazon. So don't expect fines or jail time or the government to even pay attention.

I would not be surprised if the entire run of Invincible was done by North Korea even if they do another ten seasons.
 
This show has some issues here and there but it is just so refreshing to have characters actually have honest arguments about morality.
 
One thing I'm noticing about all the animation talk is that no one seems to know what's actually happening but they're jumping to these insane conclusions.
The animators aren't being paid, they're being abused, they have impossible deadlines.
Maybe they're just not very good. Twitter seems to have this obsession with the idea of workers never being in the wrong.
They can make mistakes because of deadlines or just in general. Doesn't have to be an either/or thing.
 
This show has some issues here and there but it is just so refreshing to have characters actually have honest arguments about morality.
From this season onwards, taking from the comics and how I imagine the show to adapt things, we'll get a lot more of these morality arguments than the common "superhero romance" drama.

Hopefully we get a taste of Brit on Thursday.

Who's Brit? Kirkman's "Captain America", except he's fully invulnerable to all forms of damage (except for psychic and magic) and he's married to a former law student that became a stripper in Brit's strip club.

He is just invulnerable. No super strength, no super speed. He is THE TANK.

I don't think they'll go that far with his characterization, but I love his (albeit short) spin-off run.
And yes, his son Brit Jr. is invulnerable as he is, and they are both prone to be wielded as weapons by stronger people.

1739402433413.webp
 
I love him. He and Dupli-Kate turn out to be one of the strongest couples in the comics.

View attachment 6961586

They should have included this scene in the fight against Doc Sismic.
It's tragic really, I liked Immortal up until he started antagonizing Mark and Kate's hot so you know. But also he's kinda justified in hating Mark? It's weird. From the outside in he's unreasonable, but from his perspective and Cecil's this is pretty black and white.
 
it's crazy how much of last season was just filler type shit now that i think about it
more plot has happened in the past 3 episodes than during season 2

Man, we're really heading into the meat of Invincible. Never thought I'd see the day.
 
It's tragic really, I liked Immortal up until he started antagonizing Mark and Kate's hot so you know. But also he's kinda justified in hating Mark? It's weird. From the outside in he's unreasonable, but from his perspective and Cecil's this is pretty black and white.
Immortal and Cecil are not justified in hating Mark, or even Omni Man. They barely know anything about the Viltrum Empire. The problem with these characters is that they are acting on information that the audience knows that they shouldn't possibly know themselves. They are almost written like a 'new game +' character in that they already know the entire ending and are planning for a specific game plan instead of being open for any possibility. Cecil is written like he is fully aware of the dangers of the Viltrum Empire when he honestly should be clueless about practically everything concerning Viltrumites.

It's obvious that this story is one of those 'everything works out in the end' almost fairy tales. Where Omni Man will not be enslaving Earth. Invincible and his father will save Earth. Even some Viltrumites will become noble and break away from their way empire. It's definitely a classic superhero story. So the constant power level inconsistencies and endless side switches become tedious and tiring.
 
it's crazy how much of last season was just filler type shit now that i think about it
more plot has happened in the past 3 episodes than during season 2

Man, we're really heading into the meat of Invincible. Never thought I'd see the day.
Reading the comic, I began to realize that Invincible's structure is 3 issues of bullshit and then a jump back into the main plot.

For example: Omni-Man leaves -> Angstrom Levy ->Mark goes to space and finds him -> Mark gets home -> Anissa into Angstrom Levy

Everything that isn't apart of those story beats did not matter.
 
I like the show, it's not insulting. But like are they just proving that omni-man was right?
You probably don't want to think too hard about this. If Omni-Man had told the truth on day one, it would've been in-character for Cecil to take his side. He wouldn't turn down the cure for cancer and the end to all war and risk the entire human race getting genocided for the sake of his principles. The idea is supposed to be that earthlings would rather die fighting than live in paradise as a conquered race... but they're already ruled over by a shady, unaccountable power that believes the ends justify the means: Cecil/the GDA.

The show/comic navigates around this (sort of) by portraying the viltrumites as pointlessly sadistic psychopaths who go around speechifying about FOOLISH WEAKLINGS and throwing puppies into the sun, even though they could probably get whatever they want by asking nicely. Even in the comics, iirc, I don't think we're ever shown a planet that they've fully conquered, reaping the benefits of empire membership -- they're all apocalyptic warzones with ragtag resistance fighters getting their heads exploded. Apparently NOBODY just takes the deal. For the plot to make sense, you kind of have to assume that Omni-Man was being euphemistic when he explained the situation to Mark, and the viltrumites turn planets into giant North Koreas with no crime and a very long life expectancy but fairly shitty quality of life. Why? Who knows. Not sure what they even need human slave labor for. Seems like an ego thing.

the Maulers DID capture the entire team of Astar heroes,
Another thing you'll want to ignore is that the Maulers apparently built a ray gun that's better than anything Cecil has, anything Robot can build, and anything Angstrom could find in any alternate universe. One of those put Mark on his ass, surely a few of them would have helped with Omni-Man? A lot better than that satellite beam, anyhow. The New Guardians get solo'd by random losers who spare them out of pity every other week, fucking humiliating. The OGs at least put the guy who murdered them in a coma. No wonder Immortal is so grouchy, he remembers what it was like to have competent coworkers.

Also, this might be schizo autism, but the gun reminded me of the one Lex Luthor used to take down the Justice Lords in the old JL cartoon. It looks kinda similar, shoots a yellow beam, and supposedly does something to the nervous system (this is the handwave of how it somehow depowers every type of superpower). And it is also plot-powered so they can't just dodge the beam, derp.


It's tragic really, I liked Immortal up until he started antagonizing Mark and Kate's hot so you know. But also he's kinda justified in hating Mark? It's weird. From the outside in he's unreasonable, but from his perspective and Cecil's this is pretty black and white.
Guy doesn't whine about having to work with the son of the dude who murdered all of his friends, doesn't get butthurt that the new guy has all of his powers but better, didn't even want to take a day off after dying. Just shows up for work and does his job, figures maybe he should keep an eye on Mark. Wouldn't have had a melty if he found out that Cecil had some anti-Immortal countermeasures either. He apparently got along with Omni-Man better than Mark. At least that guy's a professional.
 
something happens which is cool, filler, boring drama, shit I don't care about, back to something cool, 30 min of filler boring bullshit, where is Omniman?
Yea, this isn't doing it for me...

Edit: and just as I typed that cool shit happens with the Mauler Twins
 
Last edited:
The show/comic navigates around this (sort of) by portraying the viltrumites as pointlessly sadistic psychopaths who go around speechifying about FOOLISH WEAKLINGS and throwing puppies into the sun, even though they could probably get whatever they want by asking nicely. Not sure what they even need human slave labor for. Seems like an ego thing.
The story barely makes sense. Humans and Viltrumites look identical. No one ever considers this. Omni Man like a retard tells Cecil he is an alien when he could literally fit in with humans and no one would know otherwise.

Viltrumites kill each other to establish 'galactic supremacy' instead of conquering other worlds and growing their ranks. This is like killing your own teammates in a team game because they didn't get as many kills as you did and are therefore weaker. Then losing the next round because your entire team is dead and you are now solo fighting against an entire army. Instead of simply realizing that the weakest Viltrumite can probably level most planets on their own and deploying them in a militaristic fashion.
Another thing you'll want to ignore is that the Maulers apparently built a ray gun that's better than anything Cecil has
Don't bother with the power levels on this show. And always assume that anyone who dies is actually secretly alive. The fake deaths probably outnumber the actual deaths of named characters 20 to 1. Anyone think that the Mauler Twins will even be dead?
something happens which is cool, filler, boring drama, shit I don't care about, back to something cool, 30 min of filler boring bullshit, where is Omniman?
Yea, this isn't doing it for me...
It would be fine if the filler were things like Viltrumite flashbacks or the Immortal's life. But we get hours of fag romance in college. Or Debbie dating some guy and revealing her family's secrets. Or Debbie's real estate ventures. Or jokes about North Korean slave animation. This is supposedly the 'greatest animated series of all time' according to some.
 
You probably don't want to think too hard about this. If Omni-Man had told the truth on day one, it would've been in-character for Cecil to take his side.
Except Cecil has always known thats Omni-Man was lying, since their first encounter, as shown in Episode 3 (or was it 2) of Season 3.

edit: episode 4 was good. Finally Battle Beast is back in the mix. And also the bromance between Nolan and Allen is the best. As well as the Viltrumite reveal.
 
Last edited:
What was the point of the training montage? I figured it'd be a shitty explanation for power creep or whatever but he's literally no stronger than any of the other heroes. I figured it'd be a one punch man situation where he has to pull his punches and the challenges isn't just in raw power vs power but other dynamics. Nah. He's just weak?
 
He's just weak?
Mark holds back a lot. He doesn't want to kill people, after he lost his shit with Angstrom Levy and saw how brutal he can be, he starts pulling his punches and find other ways to deal with crime...

...but ooh boy, this season is gonna be awesome.
 
Back
Top Bottom