Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

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Burt Ryan said:
Mark holds back a lot. He doesn't want to kill people, after he lost his shit with Angstrom Levy and saw how brutal he can be, he starts pulling his punches and find other ways to deal with crime...

...but ooh boy, this season is gonna be awesome.
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Against worms and the concept of all heroes dying? It was the exact moment I expected him to go all-out; random filler creatures literally just there to add in enemies.
 
TheHarbinger said:
It would be fine if the filler were things like Viltrumite flashbacks or the Immortal's life. But we get hours of fag romance in college. Or Debbie dating some guy and revealing her family's secrets. Or Debbie's real estate ventures. Or jokes about North Korean slave animation. This is supposedly the 'greatest animated series of all time' according to some.
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Indeed. Like what was the point of the ministory about the faggots trying to rob a bank? It added nothing to the overarching plot and could have been skipped with no problem
 
TheHarbinger said:
Don't bother with the power levels on this show. And always assume that anyone who dies is actually secretly alive. The fake deaths probably outnumber the actual deaths of named characters 20 to 1. Anyone think that the Mauler Twins will even be dead?
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Since we established multiple universes/timelines, nobody is really dead ever, and there are really no stakes.
TheHarbinger said:
Viltrumites kill each other to establish 'galactic supremacy' instead of conquering other worlds and growing their ranks. This is like killing your own teammates in a team game because they didn't get as many kills as you did and are therefore weaker. Then losing the next round because your entire team is dead and you are now solo fighting against an entire army. Instead of simply realizing that the weakest Viltrumite can probably level most planets on their own and deploying them in a militaristic fashion.
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Well actually the reason there's such a low number of Viltrumites is because of a bio weapon that went too well and killed 99.9% of them.
 
Season 3 could maybe pass Season 1, Season 2 definitely felt like it was setting up a lot of stuff here.

The stuff with King Immortal and the Prison Break with Allen, Battle Beast, and Omni-Man was really cool.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Season 3 could maybe pass Season 1, Season 2 definitely felt like it was setting up a lot of stuff here.

The stuff with King Immortal and the Prison Break with Allen, Battle Beast, and Omni-Man was really cool.
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Battle Beast is the fucking best. I remember reading that Kirkman, since he created the character, he envisioned Michael Dorn voicing him.

DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION!

Also I hope the rumors that Jeffrey Dean Morgan is the voice of Thragg are true, that'd be fucking cool to have Negan vs Glenn once again.
 
TheHarbinger said:
Don't bother with the power levels on this show. And always assume that anyone who dies is actually secretly alive. The fake deaths probably outnumber the actual deaths of named characters 20 to 1. Anyone think that the Mauler Twins will even be dead?
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I'm not one to nitpick about muh power levels, but since the quest for anything that can hurt a viltrumite even a little bit is a major, ongoing plot point, it does seem fair to ask how the Maulers managed to invent the most powerful weapon in the entire multiverse, especially since it's probably never going to come up again.

Funny thing is, I think maybe the Maulers actually ARE supposed to be dead, but the writers "cried wolf" too many times. Even if they really kill off a character, half the audience is going to assume they must be alive somehow.

Burt Ryan said:
Except Cecil has always known thats Omni-Man was lying, since their first encounter, as shown in Episode 3 (or was it 2) of Season 3.
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He didn't know Nolan's true plans though. Now that you mention it, that flashback bugged me a lot. In season 1, a very big deal was made over how Nolan convinced everyone to the point that he was practically above suspicion even though he was the only possible suspect. Cecil himself admitted he was fooled and was holding out hope there could be some reasonable explanation for what he did. To go back and say that Cecil was onto him from day one makes everybody look like dopes.

Doctor of Autism said:
Season 3 could maybe pass Season 1, Season 2 definitely felt like it was setting up a lot of stuff here.

The stuff with King Immortal and the Prison Break with Allen, Battle Beast, and Omni-Man was really cool.
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I'm surprised Amazon let them do a story where Abraham Lincoln is an insane tyrant who deserves to be assassinated, ruling over a country consumed by civil war. Holy shit Kirkman, why don't you tell us how you really feel.
 
Calandrino said:
Cecil himself admitted he was fooled and was holding out hope there could be some reasonable explanation for what he did. To go back and say that Cecil was onto him from day one makes everybody look like dopes.
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Cecil lies. He's very good at lying and hidin' stuff. If he told Mark and Debbie that he had a suspicion about Nolan since the day they first met, word would have eventually got around to Nolan and he would have accelerated his plans for planet domination.
 
I wish Kirkman was less of a retard.
The King Immortal thing is actually a closed Time Loop because
Mark makes the brain of Rudy (who goes power mad) the assistant of the immortal while he goes off to play space tyrant mega emperor (but good) with his immortal family forever and abandons Earth. Naturally the closed time loop occurs because of Robot being a little cunt and driving Immortal mad anyway. (He's thousands of years old, 500 shouldn't have broken him). The retardation comes from time not fucking working like that in his gay multiverse setting. Mark literally had future versionsof his friends show up to save him which is a direct violation of Kirkman's stupid bullshit.
Tldr the Comic is sorta dogshit and the eventual moral of the story is that the Viltrumites were based and correct, somehow.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Kirkman outright admitted it and it's because he thought it would leave people in suspense and hyped for more.
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Kirkman must be a fucking idiot then because all the break did was make me hungry for more, so I fucked off to read the comic itself and forgot about the show for years.
Burt Ryan said:
Cecil lies. He's very good at lying and hidin' stuff.
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Cecil is also a fucking idiot who thinks he knows everything and plays everyone, which bites him in the ass big time later when he lets Robot play with his own toys unsupervised. Show Cecil and comic Cecil are different, however, the show one seems much more serious and competent than the original who was a bit of a parody of a glownigger.
 
demicolon said:
Cecil is also a fucking idiot who thinks he knows everything and plays everyone, which bites him in the ass big time later when he lets Robot play with his own toys unsupervised. Show Cecil and comic Cecil are different, however, the show one seems much more serious and competent than the original who was a bit of a parody of a glownigger.
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Put that shit into spoilers my brother. Walton Goggins does give a more serious tone to Cecil, so there's that.

I don't have a preference over which Cecil, I think they both are the "perfect" glowie for the situations they find themselves in, so they try and use those same defeated enemies as allies, and it works most times than not.

That is, until what you did describe.
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
Ep 5 was filler shit.
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Negro concrete man works and lives in the exact same building that his former boss did. Actually insane that Invincible hasn't just gone and arrested him. You don't need to wait for a criminal to do another crime before you arrest them. You can just arrest them.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
Negro concrete man works and lives in the exact same building that his former boss did. Actually insane that Invincible hasn't just gone and arrested him. You don't need to wait for a criminal to do another crime before you arrest them. You can just arrest them.
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Noone gives a shit about Negro man. They care about Omniman.
 
I'm a few years late on this, but I despise Amber for treating Mark like a coward who ran away AFTER she knew he was underneath the Invincible costume, risking his life to save her. There was a pretty transparent ret-conning in season 2, where she said something to the effect of "Yes, you're doing the right thing by blowing me off to save lives, but at the same token, that dynamic forces me to seek romantic companionship elsewhere," as opposed to her tirade in season 1 of "okay, sure, you were in an unwinnable position where you had to drop at least one ball, but I'm still made at you for dropping the ball." It would be one thing if she had a "oh shit, I was wrong, I didn't think that one through" moment where she accounted for her old error and adjusted, but they tried to play it off like she had the more reasonable perspective all along.

When she was berating Mark for a shortcoming of which she knew he was not guilty, she really boiled my blood. Go ahead and throw the alarm clock emotes on this, I'm a little late to the party.
 
starborn427614 said:
Plus, Machine Head's back. I like that guy.
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Of course he's back. Every single character on this show comes back. They fake killed two characters this episode even. They literally can't even kill minor villains on this show. Every storyline is the same. Villain shows up, heroes struggle to win, last second save, alliances change, villain is seemingly killed, romance scene, villain is revived after credits.

People criticized The Boys for being afraid to kill characters. But Invincible has cast wide plot armor.
 
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