Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

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it's cute they acted like eve could do some shit
Throws up a whole lot of questions too regarding why she resorts to throwing pink confetti in nearly every other fight if she can completely immobilize the strongest being they've ever faced, keep him occupied and defending for a not-insignificant period of time, and tank multiple hits from him with ablative armor. I understand that it's not as cool if she instantly gets KO'd, but it would certainly match the capabilities she's presented this far. Maybe the writers just really wanted a magical girl transformation scene.
 
Throws up a whole lot of questions too regarding why she resorts to throwing pink confetti in nearly every other fight if she can completely immobilize the strongest being they've ever faced, keep him occupied and defending for a not-insignificant period of time, and tank multiple hits from him with ablative armor. I understand that it's not as cool if she instantly gets KO'd, but it would certainly match the capabilities she's presented this far. Maybe the writers just really wanted a magical girl transformation scene.
This may just be my retard take but I think it's fairly consistent with the theme of the show where the younger characters are still growing into their powers and don't quite understand what they're capable of. Eves parents were already shown to be wary of her powers, so it's understandable she probably went for most of her life trying not to use them as much as she could out of wanting to not freak her family out and get herself locked up.

She's still a glass cannon even with her convenient survivability though because she can still be taken out of the fight very easily and I think conquest is probably her most notable fight moment. They try to give Mark the same treatment of "he doesn't know how strong he is so he holds back" but it comes off as dumber with him because like fucking hell dude nearly everything you've faced since you started has been a planetary threat. It's absurd that they handicap the strongest character on earth to that extent because he is the only one who does have the ability to end these fights before they escalate and he just never turns it up to 11 till it's too late and some of his friends have been killed off.

Wait, is Mark really just Kirkman's Goku parallel?
 
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/co/ is still incapable of writing legible thought.
 
I was a little iffy on Jeffrey Dean Morgan last week but he fucking knocked it out of the park. Can't wait for Thragg next season
Makes me wonder who's gonna voice him, since my money was on JDM as Thragg. There's a rumor around that Ryan Hurst will voice him.

Loved him as Opie in Sons of Anarchy, and Thor in GoW Ragnarok.
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Throws up a whole lot of questions too regarding why she resorts to throwing pink confetti in nearly every other fight if she can completely immobilize the strongest being they've ever faced, keep him occupied and defending for a not-insignificant period of time, and tank multiple hits from him with ablative armor. I understand that it's not as cool if she instantly gets KO'd, but it would certainly match the capabilities she's presented this far. Maybe the writers just really wanted a magical girl transformation scene.
I think even Kirkman said he doesn't know what to do with her powers. She can control matter. She should be alot more useful.
 
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Nothing you describe in your post has anything to do with Goku.
It's a running joke in DBZ fandom how Goku holds back against enemies until someone in the squad dies and then he gains a power up and beats the bad guy.
Frieza kills Krillin, he goes SSJ.
Could have finished Cell before he became Super Perfect, let Gohan fight Cell for the power up.
Could have just finished Buu as Vegito and used Porunga to wish back everyone but let himself get eaten, Kid Buu then destroyed Earth and he had to bring everyone back anyway.
Could have killed Golden Frieza numerous times but let him get the drop on him, earth got blown up and only saved by time play.
Etc
The entire story of DBZ and DBS up to the Golden Frieza arc involves Goku being strong enough at various points to kill the enemy and holding back until after someone else dies. By the end of season 2 of DBS he is the strongest non-deity being in his universe and yet he still pulls his punches in the next arc, and the shenanigans continue in the Moro arc of the manga.

Now compare to Invincible, which features fight after fight where Mark explicitly holds back his full strength despite being the strongest entity on earth with exception of the battle beast fight and before Nolan left. Granted, Goku's reasoning is out of his brain damaged love of fighting the strongest while Mark's is out of not wanting to kill, but the end result is that they hold back until they get pushed far enough to snap and use more strength, and they get a power up out of it.

There, you made me effortpost to explain what was an obvious tail end joke, congrats.
 
Just finished the episode. As predicted, the entire season budget went into this fight. And now my mind jumps to the future fights. Hopefully this show gets more budget and better management.
Holy shit, they really did put all the animation budget into this episode, and this fight was absolutely raw as hell. Like this probably has to be the best fight in this show. Since the choreography is actually amazing and gave Atom Eve more to use with her abilities creatively

Would say Conquest's voice is pretty good now that there is more to hear.

Overall, this season is definitely an improvement over season 2 and may be on par or better than Season 1.

Though what the heck is Kirkman cooking with Darkblood in that post-credits scene
So they went full Dragon Ball Super on us. Go full cheapskate on the animation for most of the season, save the budget for the good fights with the big villains. (In DBS, the animation for most of the episodes is somewhat serviceable but below the quality of DB, DBZ, and DBGT, but the more decisive fight scenes like the fights with Goku Black are very high-quality, to the point where it can compete with the best DBZ had to offer.)

Also, Mark really is just fated to be used as a human/Viltrumite shield against civilians. First his pops, now Conquest. I suppose Thragg is going to do that to him, too. They'll go through Times Square or London with Mark getting a face full of civilians' guts strewn across his face.

At the very least, Oliver got a little taller after the fight. I suppose Eve is the Krillin/Android 16 in this situation, but she managed to will herself back to life from near-death instead of being revived by a genie.

it's cute they acted like eve could do some shit
Technically, she is the superhero with the most versatile, and without her mental blocks, useful powers in the whole series. But all of this matter manipulation on the levels of Dr. Manhattan is balanced by the fact that she's just a human and a literal glass cannon.
Diet Dr. Manhattan, except unlike the original article that Alan Moore turned into a literal god, Atom Eve had enough weaknesses to make her more vulnerable to keep up the stakes. I suppose if she was as powerful as Dr. Manhattan, this fight would've had all the gravitas of a pillow fight between kids. None of Conquest's attacks would have any meaningful effect on Eve, and she'd just turn the man into candy Majin Buu-style. She'd share the candy with Mark while they go on a dating trip.

And of course, Cecil keeps Conquest alive. I'm beginning to wonder who's dumber: the Illusive Man in Mass Effect 3 for playing God with technology that can rot his brain, or Cecil, for keeping the most dangerous Viltrumite they've ever known still alive. At the very least, he should've killed Conquest by removing his heart and have Sinclair rebuild him as a Reanimen, instead of just hoping that some explosives will kill him if he escapes. I mean, we already had a GDI-style Ion Cannon hit Nolan in the face and all it did was give him a nosebleed. And they've established that Conquest is far stronger than Nolan.

You know what, it's probably Cecil. At least the Illusive Man's plan in ME3 was correct on paper, and if the main character plays their cards right, they could succeed in his place. Despite his brainrot, there was still a method to the madness.

Throws up a whole lot of questions too regarding why she resorts to throwing pink confetti in nearly every other fight if she can completely immobilize the strongest being they've ever faced, keep him occupied and defending for a not-insignificant period of time, and tank multiple hits from him with ablative armor. I understand that it's not as cool if she instantly gets KO'd, but it would certainly match the capabilities she's presented this far. Maybe the writers just really wanted a magical girl transformation scene.
I would've had Mark and Eve work together and have Mark whale on Conquest while Eve pinned him down. Pull his fist back with that air density thing so that Mark can get a clean shot in, immobilize him so that Mark can whale on him again and again. But I suppose they were too shaken to have a clear battle plan.

Now compare to Invincible, which features fight after fight where Mark explicitly holds back his full strength despite being the strongest entity on earth with exception of the battle beast fight and before Nolan left. Granted, Goku's reasoning is out of his brain damaged love of fighting the strongest while Mark's is out of not wanting to kill, but the end result is that they hold back until they get pushed far enough to snap and use more strength, and they get a power up out of it.
When Conquest said that getting mad doesn't make you stronger, I just laughed, considering that getting pissed is what made Mark strong enough to beat him.

The entire story of DBZ and DBS up to the Golden Frieza arc involves Goku being strong enough at various points to kill the enemy and holding back until after someone else dies. By the end of season 2 of DBS he is the strongest non-deity being in his universe and yet he still pulls his punches in the next arc, and the shenanigans continue in the Moro arc of the manga.
I'm pretty sure Goku's already somewhat of a deity in DB standards, once he managed to achieve SSG on his own. Freeza even calls him the "God of Monkeys".
 
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The Conquest fight was cool, but it also made Mark come across like a complete retard. He had plenty of opportunities to gouge out Conquest’s good eye, but never went for it.
 
I think even Kirkman said he doesn't know what to do with her powers. She can control matter. She should be alot more useful.
Seriously! With how heavily she relies on barriers and energy blasts in every other fight someone could reasonably assume those are her only powers. My annoyance is more of a "what could have been" than anything because getting these glimpses of creative matter manipulation usage makes me notice how much the show wastes her potential in most other scenes.
This may just be my retard take but I think it's fairly consistent with the theme of the show where the younger characters are still growing into their powers and don't quite understand what they're capable of. Eves parents were already shown to be wary of her powers, so it's understandable she probably went for most of her life trying not to use them as much as she could out of wanting to not freak her family out and get herself locked up.
I agree with that for most of the cast, but Eve's kinda gotten the short end of the stick in that department, at least for her combat capabilities. As far as I can recall, in season 3 she uses some actual creative abilities during episode 5's dragon fight and against Conquest, both to much greater effect than her usual attacks; every other fight, including the fight against the alternate Invincibles in episode 7, reverts her to her usual "fly around, make barriers, and shoot energy blasts" moveset. The reversion at episode 7 is especially damning since she's suddenly using less effective attacks against stronger foes after demonstrating that she has increased capabilities.

I have to assume that a lot of these issues stem from the intermittent filler and rewrites the show employs; I don't believe episode 5's contents even exist in the comic and Eve originally got zero diffed the second she tried to make a barrier around Conquest. It's clear the show wants to write her as more powerful than the comic portrayed her as, but I wish they leaned into that harder because her powers have the proven potential to be really interesting and cool and they often seem completely unutilized. It feels to me like the writers have a power scaling switch for her that they flip off and on depending on if they're pulling directly from the source material or deviating. Watching Eve take on Conquest by herself while injured for a significant amount of time when she got oneshot by a single alternate Invincible flying through her barrier in the episode previous gave me some serious whiplash. Though, I suppose the story's inconsistent power dynamics aren't exactly an uncommon thing to mention at this point.
 
I think even Kirkman said he doesn't know what to do with her powers. She can control matter. She should be alot more useful.
*Boop* Your lungs are now tempura shrimp.
*Boop* You are now playground equipment for children
It could be such a blast.
 
*Boop* Your lungs are now tempura shrimp.
*Boop* You are now playground equipment for children
It could be such a blast.
*Boop* Conquest is now a giant piece of cotton candy that Mark and Eve take turns eating on their next date.
*Boop* Anissa is now a brand-new PS5 that Mark and Eve are going to play video games on after they have sex.
*Boop* Thragg is now a chocolate cake that Nolan presents to Debbie as an apology for him leaving her and killing the old Guaridans.

The Conquest fight was cool, but it also made Mark come across like a complete retard. He had plenty of opportunities to gouge out Conquest’s good eye, but never went for it.
It's "suspension of disbelief". Gouging out his eye would make the battle a lot easier, but it would also kill the stakes.

Maybe they could've established that Conquest's eyes can heal and he can still use super-hearing to sus out where Mark is so he can punch the brat in the face. Which would make gouging out his eyes less of a tactical advantage.

So i'm just scrolling and this shit pops up in my feed with the caption "why is the animation in this show so mid?" Lol what the fuck.

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They did it to Nolan, so no shit, they'd do it to Conquest, who is way more buff/muscular than Nolan.

That scene reminded me of Krillin Destructo-discing off Friezas tail in DBZ
I'd say Krillin wins on that account. Freeza was legitimately physically damaged, whereas at the most, Eve didn't even give Conquest a few boo-boos. Freeza had to transform to regrow his tail.
 
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