Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

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Well I'm satisfied. I got everything I wanted from that episode. My only wish is that the rest of the season did a better job building up the war, maybe have Angstrom visiting other universes to recruit Marks.

@MunsterCheeseJr Yeah I know what you mean. Interrupting the action to check in on Rex and Rae or those two bitches in Egypt that no one cares about were insane decisions.
 
Why did they show Eve basically being able to make whatever the fuck she wanted in the first season and her special, then proceed to have her botch one construction project and wind up pretty much just throwing glass windows at two discount-saiyans she knows WILL rip her in half the instant they get a good grip on her?
 
MunsterCheeseJr said:
Is it just me, or is this current season particularly much worse that the prior seasons?

They seem to stretch out moments that are not even good slice-of-life pauses, and then shit out the good major plot points like they are Kathy Griffan full Oat Branned up on a Squatty Potty.

Did they do something like put chicks in charge, leading them to focus on the stuff that they are interested in and failing? DEI? Diversity hires? Changes in staffing? Change in budget? What the hell changed?
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Because the show has no respect for the viewer's time. Season 1 was decent, with a focused plot and some distractions. Season's 2 and 3 are a mess. The only plotline people give a shit about is Omniman, and he's not in the show anymore.
 
I never read the comics

But does it really go from all the evil invincible and like the day after they are removed this conquest bloke rocks up
 
Salt_Merchant said:
I never read the comics

But does it really go from all the evil invincible and like the day after they are removed this conquest bloke rocks up
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Yeah, Kuckman is really really bad at pacing.
The Evil Invincibles could've been used to have done interesting parallels to Mark.
Instead we waste episodes on shit like "HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!", Random Time Travel Plot Point #2 (won'tbe the last), or "Mark does prison protection work because Eve forgets she can literally print gold."
Same as in the comics.
Kirkman really just throws shit at a wall and then rather than waiting to see what sticks, he blasts it with a high powered water hose to throw more shit.
It's why Cecil and Allen go from mostly reasonable characters to absolute spastic lunatics in the blink of an eye.
 
Salt_Merchant said:
I never read the comics

But does it really go from all the evil invincible and like the day after they are removed this conquest bloke rocks up
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Yep. The Invincible War arc is just one issue, and then you have around 5-6 issues of aftermath, with one new villain (Dinosaurus) showing up, and then Conquest right after.
 
Doctor of Autism said:
Say what you will about the animation but even if it had the best animation, it can never compare to the detail of the comics and it is simple.

It is moving pictures while a comic picture is a still frame that needs to have as much detail as possible.

If they tried to replicate the comic to the last feature, the show would be more of a slideshow.

That and comics are not storyboards for an adaptation, they are their own medium
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I mean, I'm not sad about the lack of detail, but I do think the show could take some cues from the comic in just directing the visuals in a more interesting way. Everything looks so bland and generic outside of the gore in this show. Reminds me of the Killing Joke comic being really colourful and vibrant with it's visuals, only for the animated movie to take none of that and just has every scene look like another dimly lit set with no sense of style.
 
Cave Fisher said:
Why did they show Eve basically being able to make whatever the fuck she wanted in the first season and her special, then proceed to have her botch one construction project and wind up pretty much just throwing glass windows at two discount-saiyans she knows WILL rip her in half the instant they get a good grip on her?
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Powerlevel issur.

Like how Mauler twin's cannon can stun Invincible for 20 minutes, but powerplex's electricity (that scorches flesh) causes minor nosebleed.

And how Viltrumites are supposed to be able to level planets and be these super-powerful elites, but they are shown to struggle against so many Earth heroes.

There also seem to be avlot cooler/stronger heroes than the current guardians of the Earth.
 
Mark can benchpress a moon but some random dipshit with lightbulb powers can 1v1 him.
CaptainAutism69 said:
Because the show has no respect for the viewer's time. Season 1 was decent, with a focused plot and some distractions. Season's 2 and 3 are a mess. The only plotline people give a shit about is Omniman, and he's not in the show anymore.
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Yeah my exact thoughts. Season 1 was tight and focused and generated a shitload of goodwill, seasons 2 and 3 are a discombobulated mess of disperate ideas. Season 1 was serialized while season 2 is a mess of semi serial-semi episodic storylines that barely knows what it wants to do or where its heading.

They waste time on the shittiest slice of life moments and the most retarded inconsequential villains.

Season 1 feels like a completely seperate show to season 2.
 
Gender: Xenomorph said:
Powerlevel issur.

Like how Mauler twin's cannon can stun Invincible for 20 minutes, but powerplex's electricity (that scorches flesh) causes minor nosebleed.

And how Viltrumites are supposed to be able to level planets and be these super-powerful elites, but they are shown to struggle against so many Earth heroes.

There also seem to be avlot cooler/stronger heroes than the current guardians of the Earth.
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Don't expect consistency or logic in Kirkman's writing.
Reanimen range from stalling omniman to falling apart like lego.
Invincible can get tagged by bullets ricocheting.
It's got so many problems with internal consistency you will have no clue who is meant to be strong or not.
Also I still don't think I know what Black Samson's powers are.

Anyway the entire Invincible War was some gay commentary on multiverse shit, but missed the Mark.
 
I get the sense that Battle Beast could have had an opportunity to at least fight ONE of the Mark clones. Mark's previous power level was a gnat to Battle Beast. His new power level at least deserves a shot vs. Battle Beast. Granted, it might just be the difference between (underleveled by 50 levels) vs. (underleveled by 30 levels), but I feel at least one Mark variation deserved Battle Beast's attention. If nothing else, it would serve to compare Mark's new power level to that of the Viltrumite he fought in space. Of course, I don't know how BB would have been made aware of the opportunity from his current location or what his capacity for travel is.

Added in edit: FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY DO POWERPLEX'S CAPTORS NOT REMOVE THE FUCKING SUIT HE IS IN IF THEY INTEND TO KEEP HIM ALIVE?
 
Rick Nekieta said:
I get the sense that Battle Beast could have had an opportunity to at least fight ONE of the Mark clones. Mark's previous power level was a gnat to Battle Beast. His new power level at least deserves a shot vs. Battle Beast. Granted, it might just be the difference between (underleveled by 50 levels) vs. (underleveled by 30 levels), but I feel at least one Mark variation deserved Battle Beast's attention. If nothing else, it would serve to compare Mark's new power level to that of the Viltrumite he fought in space. Of course, I don't know how BB would have been made aware of the opportunity from his current location or what his capacity for travel is.
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you will never see Mark fight Battle Beast ever again and then Battle Beast dies.

Also to add on to my prior comment about Black Samson, that might just be the worst hero name in the setting.
It'd be like calling a black vampire Black Dracula/Blackula, or calling somebody Black Hercules. Or maybe Black Einstein.
At least when other settings prefix Black to a hero they're not historical/mythical figures.
 
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Gender: Xenomorph said:
Powerlevel issur.

Like how Mauler twin's cannon can stun Invincible for 20 minutes, but powerplex's electricity (that scorches flesh) causes minor nosebleed.

And how Viltrumites are supposed to be able to level planets and be these super-powerful elites, but they are shown to struggle against so many Earth heroes.

There also seem to be avlot cooler/stronger heroes than the current guardians of the Earth.
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The show's powerscaling is REALLY bad, and not at all helped by season 2 and 3's way more episodic nature, so sometimes you have Mark being hyped up as this planet's Gohan, being able to go to-to-to with another Viltrumite and even do good against two versions of himself, meanwhile he comes out of every fight with characters who'd be a monster-of-the-week in any other show still bloodied and/or struggling. Or how one of the mark variants can make basically mincemeat of the guardians, but a ricocheted bullet is seriously enough to push away capevincible, who brags about killing his version of Omni Man, who should still be stronger than anybody on earth.
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
Don't expect consistency or logic in Kirkman's writing
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People should have learned better than to trust a Kirkman product after the way TWD ended. He has decent ideas but like a lot of comic authors can't really carry them through without wasting time for aeons to pad out his publishing deals.

Invincible would have been a really good 3 or 4 season show if there had been a competent editor combing through everything of substance and slicing out all of the time wasting bullshit.

As it stands now, they are going to keep cutting corners on the animation and adapting all the worst parts to try and milk this cow till blood seeps from the nipples.
 
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On the one hand it happened in the comics, otoh they've kept other characters alive who were supposed to die.

Though Rex dying is central to a later plot point whereas Shrinking Ray was practically a throwaway death.
 
Thought they would add a female invincible, tho I guess they couldn't make the one girl be part of the evil genocidal team.

Anyway, as usual can't go one episode without retarded social commentary and reminding everybody of gay buttsecks. The irony is that invincible being a parody makes it seem they are parodying gays, feminism and race issues, but we know these writers aren't and take this 100% seriously because they are too dull to get parodies.
 
MunsterCheeseJr said:
They seem to stretch out moments that are not even good slice-of-life pauses, and then shit out the good major plot points like they are Kathy Griffan full Oat Branned up on a Squatty Potty.

Did they do something like put chicks in charge, leading them to focus on the stuff that they are interested in and failing? DEI? Diversity hires? Changes in staffing? Change in budget? What the hell changed?
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"This show is dragging out stuff I'm not entertained by. It must be because women are working on it!"
 
Trollblade69 said:
"This show is dragging out stuff I'm not entertained by. It must be because women are working on it!"
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Look. The romantic interactions are soooo bad, it could just as easily have been done by some clueless guys who enjoy action comics but know nothing of how to portray intimacy. Or a couple of gay guys. Or a few trannies. I have no clue. All I know is that it is still born and all wrong.

I was hoping someone here might have some insight as to why these elements seem to particularly suck. I don't know. I'm just throwing darts at the board.
 
MunsterCheeseJr said:
I was hoping someone here might have some insight as to why these elements seem to particularly suck. I don't know. I'm just throwing darts at the board.
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Because they're coasting extremely hard off the source material, putting as little effort into the show as possible because there's nothing to be gained by putting effort in other than failing to meet their deadline.

If a worker is paid the same amount of money no matter how good a job they do, they will save themselves a lot of literally worthless effort and go with a lazy option. That's a rule that writers are governed by just as much as animators and storyboarders.
 
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