Amazon's Invincible - thoughts?

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Samuel Fuller said:
Between The Walking Dead and Invincible, I think it’s safe to say Kirkman just isn’t a good writer.
He goes for cheap shocks and “subverting expectations” to cover for the fact that he’s just shit at thinking things through to make his stories logical and consistent.
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Yes, you can try to argue that it's meant to be retarded because it's a critique of social darwinism but he sucks ass at making it realistic. It would make far more sense for Viltrumites to use DNA testing, abortion, and sterilization rather than have some retarded system where your parents beat the shit out of you. Kirkman is good at making stories when he doesn't have to elaborate too much on the lore yet which is why season one of invincible is by far the best season and why there is a massive drop in quality afterwards.
He also sucks ass with keeping the powerscaling consistent and his superfans try to use the "well its fiction!" argument but that doesn't hold up when fictional stories are typically supposed to be logically consistent. Why is it that Nolan can move at speeds so fast that he can blow apart entire cities and redirect asteroids the size of Texas but then struggles to handle the gravity of a large planet? Pseudointellectual faggots like to disregard powerscaling but it's just another means by which you can see if a story is being consistent or not and writers that disregard it because it'll intervene with the plot are retards that should learn how to plan ahead better and maybe not have a character do something that would make them too overpowered just for them to not be at that level later. If you really want them to do it, you can just make up a bullshit reason for how it happened so that it doesn't fuck with the power consistency and move on.
Kirkman isn't the most bright or creative writer which is why he struggles with this shit and why Invincible will only get more shitty over time unless some major revisions happen. He's so unimaginative that he can't come up with anything for Eve to do besides "walls and boxes and maybe build stuff".
 
Exegesis said:
It would make far more sense for Viltrumites to use DNA testing, abortion, and sterilization rather than have some retarded system where your parents beat the shit out of you.
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Wakanda being a space-age futurist utopia but still deciding who their king is via combat vibes.
 
Neet Tokusatsu said:
Same shit goes with Eve's dad, that fat fuck cannot even be called a character, he just exists as a mere caricature of what Kirkman thinks conservative parents are.
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eve's dad is probably the best example of why i can not give a fuck about any character that isn't primary or secondary. ultimately he serves the same purpose that a powerplex or a dinosaurus, which is to make mark think "am i really doing the right thing" except it's not even convincing in the case of eve's dad because his "you could get my girl killed" speech means nothing when she's already been killed and immediately brought back to life. can understand being worried about the immense pain she's going to feel from having her body beat to shit, but there's no mortal danger. could there ever be? if conquest couldn't do the trick, who could?
 
calm down
gaysexenjoyer said:
misremembering something
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*ranting about something like you actually had a strong opinion or something to say.

That's different.
It's not a passing detail in a conversation or something. It's like having a public argument with a raincloud.
Shut the fuck up already, you spaz.
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
when someone gets specific lore details wrong.
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This isn't some background deep lore this is literally the front and center main plot of the episode that came out like last week. Unless your memory is literally that of a goldfish no shit I'd think you misunderstood instead of misremembered because the episode literally just came out.

Was the generous interpretation that you didn't remember the episode you watched yesterday?
 
Good episode this week, but the animation really took me out of it at times. Not the action (for the most part), it's the people walking at like 5 frames. I'm not sure what effect they're going for but it's very jarring to watch.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
This isn't some background deep lore this is literally the front and center main plot of the episode that came out like last week. Unless your memory is literally that of a goldfish no shit I'd think you misunderstood instead of misremembered because the episode literally just came out.

Was the generous interpretation that you didn't remember the episode you watched yesterday?
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Look all I'm saying is when the first explanation that comes to mind requires the other person to be acting completely illogically I think it's fair to at least ask for clarification first before immediately launching into a tirade about how stupid they must be.

Like you could've just asked "did you watch the episode" and I'd have said no. Then it would've been clear I'm probably talking about the comics rather than posting with dementia about something I watched yesterday and somehow missed the basic plotpoints of.

If I said "yeah I watched it 10 minutes ago, why do you ask? :smug:" like a moron then by all means rip into me, I just think a little grace first would've been nicer.

I hate the spaced-out release shit for streaming shows, it just reminds me of cable and half the time it's not even necessary because the episodes are already finished beforehand. I always wait until a season ends first before I sit down and watch it.
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Oh look, another fight of mostly useless punches until the Viltrumite pulls out THE VILTRUMITE KARATE CHOP OF DOOM that goes through people they can't punch through like butter.
How many fucking times is Kirkman going to make this the Viltrumite go-to lethal attack it's fucking dogshit lmao.
I know the answer by the way, it's "a lot."
 
Symbol of the Chud said:
Oh look, another fight of mostly useless punches until the Viltrumite pulls out THE VILTRUMITE KARATE CHOP OF DOOM that goes through people they can't punch through like butter.
How many fucking times is Kirkman going to make this the Viltrumite go-to lethal attack it's fucking dogshit lmao.
I know the answer by the way, it's "a lot."
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Kirkman isn't good at making fights which is crazy because that's usually the one thing people who make comics are good at.
 
Oilspill Battery said:
My bad for assuming you watched the episode based on you talking about the episode.
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Hey, I was just talking about the Viltrumites in general because people were discussing Kirkman being a suckass writer. The new episode adapting the same subject was purely coincidental.

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Exegesis said:
Kirkman isn't good at making fights which is crazy because that's usually the one thing people who make comics are good at.
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I mean Kirkman wasn't holding the pencil so I can't dump it all on him, but I recall a lot of the fights in the comic feeling really... stiff? Like it's not outright horrible, but I remember noticing it even way back then, and I barely read comics at the time. That and every character massively over-swinging their punches past the person they're fighting while the other guy dramatically flies back, like an action shot that's usually on covers. That was all over the place.

It's like it was trying to be dynamic but something about how it was framed made it look... off, I guess.
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them pretending like eve actually did anything against conquest is just sad at this point
she couldn't do shit against a single weaker mark and now they're really acting like she carried that fight
 
Gay Sex Enjoyer said:
I mean Kirkman wasn't holding the pencil so I can't dump it all on him
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Yeah but how it usually goes is that the writer will draw a very rough sketch (like stick figures) of how he wants the fight to be or describe it while the artist makes a rough sketch. He still has most of the burden here since artists are usually hesitant to suggest changes as it's not their story.
 
Exegesis said:
He's so unimaginative that he can't come up with anything for Eve to do besides "walls and boxes and maybe build stuff".
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Eve literally has the power to warp the fundumental building blocks of reality itself on a whim and her combat style involves throwing pink orbs 90% of the time. SHe com
God of Nothing said:
them pretending like eve actually did anything against conquest is just sad at this point
she couldn't do shit against a single weaker mark and now they're really acting like she carried that fight
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One has to wonder why Eve's "failsafe" didn't trigger vs alt reality mark other than "The plot needed it not to."
 
Oilspill Battery said:
Eve literally has the power to warp the fundumental building blocks of reality itself on a whim and her combat style involves throwing pink orbs 90% of the time. SHe com
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What I don't understand is why she didn't use that "increase the density of the air" trick more often because it completely stopped conquest and held him in place. The only time she ever actually used her abilities correctly was in that special episode and in the conquest fight and it's clear as fucking day that Kirkman was not involved in developing the choreography for both of those which is why Eve is capable of doing stuff besides throw up some walls, stroke Marks ego, and be his fleshlight.
 
Exegesis said:
unless some major revisions happen
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I thought Kirkman said he was going to change things to be different in the show compared to the comic. But from what I'm reading here, a lot of the events play out the same and characters still act dumb or are portrayed poorly. So what's the point of saying the show will be different when you can read the comic and it's the exact same story? Has he tried to fix anything that fans didn't like about the comic or has he half assed it?
 
TheOtherOne said:
I thought Kirkman said he was going to change things to be different in the show compared to the comic. But from what I'm reading here, a lot of the events play out the same and characters still act dumb or are portrayed poorly. So what's the point of saying the show will be different when you can read the comic and it's the exact same story? Has he tried to fix anything that fans didn't like about the comic or has he half assed it?
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He made William a megafaggot instead of just a faggot?
 
TheOtherOne said:
I thought Kirkman said he was going to change things to be different in the show compared to the comic. But from what I'm reading here, a lot of the events play out the same and characters still act dumb or are portrayed poorly. So what's the point of saying the show will be different when you can read the comic and it's the exact same story? Has he tried to fix anything that fans didn't like about the comic or has he half assed it?
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oh look, look!
walter white is replacing mike and chastising jessie, lolololol

At this point, the show is more of a mess than the comics.
 
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