Amberlynn Reid - 600 pound pathological liar and U-Haul lesbian moving in with her next live-in maid/nurse/girlfriend.

Are you looking forward to seeing Jade's face on camera?

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    Votes: 550 15.6%
  • No

    Votes: 349 9.9%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 2,620 74.5%

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Of course it doesn't give her that right but I wasn't talking about her being a shit girlfriend or a shit pet owner. I was discussing how it may be somewhat irrational to have expected AL to have immediately recovered enough in foster care to have the presence of mind and capability of saving money or taking full advantage of resources made available to her.


My comment was not an exoneration of who she is now. We can all agree her life is a shit show and she has some resources now to correct it. But do you really think that it's absurdly common to be born to two addicts who have both gone to prison at some point, suffer neglect or abuse so badly you are removed from the home permanently, with none of your extended family willing or able to take care of you? Mental illness, abuse and addiction themselves may be common but Amber's specific set of circumstances are not common. They were pretty extreme and even the brightest, most self-aware person will have trouble having a normal life, even with therapy, after such an upbringing.

And while people who have terrible starts can have better lives, that is a notion that is relative. From AL's perspective, she is leading a better life than her parents. She overshops and gorges daily but she's not strung out on drugs or alcohol. She's a lesbian who is too fat to get pregnant but she also can say she hasn't had any children whom she later lost custody of. Her friends are not addicts, she technically has a job and owns a car, and she can also say she supports her girlfriend financially. We can see things as they are - she's an addict in her own right, she neglects her pets and runs roughshod over people, her "friends" all seem to dislike her, she puts in little effort in her videos, her car is begging for the merciful release of death and she encouraged Becky to quit her job so she could have someone to take care of her. But by the metrics of the childhood that very directly led to her maladaptive coping mechanisms - she was over 200 pounds by age 10 so her eating issues started when she was very, very young - she's doing better than her parents. With that particular mindset, does she genuinely understand how fucked she is? I still don't think she fully understands how sick she is and how bad things are about to get for her.

Admitting that most people who suffer the sort of extremity Amber did as a kid have trouble living normal lives doesn't give Amber a free pass to behave without honor or self-control. If we find out that a man who beats his family was raised by a father who beat him, we may understand how he came to engage in such behaviors, but we still condemn his actions and hold him accountable. AL needs to engage in some hard self-work and she needs to do it asap, but it's irrational to expect her to have been able to engage in long term planning in foster care before she even made it to high school.

ETA: Just to be clear - I don't have a lot of sympathy for Amber, and am not recommending that anyone should. Once a person makes a false rape accusation, it's hard to cut them any future slack.
Fair enough. Amber herself seems to think she's an addict, or she thinks it's a convenient excuse she can use, but other than that I don't think I can disagree with anything there.

Regardless, this is all getting a little deep for me considering who we're talking about. :lol:

Cheers, Farmers. Merry Christmas!
 
Definitely this. She gets that 8k from her Fitbit which is notorious for overestimating steps.
She didn't even walk 8k steps with her Fitbit. I joined a couple of weekly challenges with her and some other people in January. If I remember correctly she was at 2-3k and quit after a couple challenges, probably 'cause she consistently was in last place and the rest of us could see it.
 
Regardless, this is all getting a little deep for me considering who we're talking about. :lol:
I over-analyze fats. It's a hobby.

I hope we all enjoy the end of the year and, frankly, I hope we all enjoy some fun food and engage in some holiday revelry without worrying too much about the calories. Over-indulgence is so much more fun when it's a holiday activity and not just what happens every evening after Rickie has gone to bed. Be well, Kiwis.
 
I over-analyze fats. It's a hobby.

I hope we all enjoy the end of the year and, frankly, I hope we all enjoy some fun food and engage in some holiday revelry without worrying too much about the calories. Over-indulgence is so much more fun when it's a holiday activity and not just what happens every evening after Rickie has gone to bed. Be well, Kiwis.


Your posts are great.

Hope everyone had a nice holiday... Big Al included. C'mon, it's Christmas. I'm being nice.
 
I'm sure this old Facebook amber forgot about has been linked and screen shotted already, but here's a bunch more for the fun of it. Some of these statuses are fucking hilarious when looked at though hindsight and the context of the present.

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Definitely this. She gets that 8k from her Fitbit which is notorious for overestimating steps.
Doesn't the fitbit count arm movements? So everytime she lifts that hambone to her face for another mouth-filling bite it counts as a step. I'm sure she takes 8000 bites a day.

I'm sure this old Facebook amber forgot about has been linked and screen shotted already, but here's a bunch more for the fun of it. Some of these statuses are fucking hilarious when looked at though hindsight and the context of the present.
She was actually defending Casey Anthony who murdered her own child. She bitched that her teacher thinks she knows everything, but Amber proved her wrong. OMG Then she says you don't have to wait until Monday to start over.
So full of shit. I couldn't read them all, but I'll go back later and finish.
 
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Admitting that most people who suffer the sort of extremity Amber did as a kid have trouble living normal lives doesn't give Amber a free pass to behave without honor or self-control. If we find out that a man who beats his family was raised by a father who beat him, we may understand how he came to engage in such behaviors, but we still condemn his actions and hold him accountable. AL needs to engage in some hard self-work and she needs to do it asap, but it's irrational to expect her to have been able to engage in long term planning in foster care before she even made it to high school.

ETA: Just to be clear - I don't have a lot of sympathy for Amber, and am not recommending that anyone should. Once a person makes a false rape accusation, it's hard to cut them any future slack.

Along those same lines, it's easy to see how she's always been defined as a victim who deserves asspats just for showing up. Most of the excuses and rationalizations that come out of her mouth sound like things a therapist might tell a child who was grappling with some severe self-esteem and other mental health issues: "Yes, I ate fast food four times yesterday, but I stayed under 3000 calories so I'm proud of myself," or "I can't just magically become a perfect person overnight". That kind of stuff. Of course, it's almost pathological in its own right that she hasn't moved past this stage -- she's almost 30, for god's sake -- but I can see where it comes from.

Even the false rape accusation itself... Like so many people, I find this pretty unforgivable. But I do know that kids in the system get rewarded (through positive attention) for disclosing abuse and trauma they've suffered to their therapists, caseworkers, etc. And that makes sense when you're dealing with traumatized kids who need to start talking about some of their issues. But again, AL is stuck there, reciting the details of her horrible upbringing over and over (with a slight grin, no less -- she's not reliving trauma, she's anticipating sympathy) and then gradually exaggerating more and more when the story gets too old for her audience to give her what she wants, and then completely making shit up when she doesn't get the reaction she was expecting.

She only gets her pleasure in life through a few things -- eating, shopping, and sucking up sympathy -- so as a result she completely overdoes it with those things. It's not hard to see why she was programmed to find those three things in particular to be super fulfilling.

She's still a fairly awful person, though. Don't get me wrong.
 
I do know that kids in the system get rewarded (through positive attention) for disclosing abuse and trauma they've suffered to their therapists, caseworkers, etc.
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(with a slight grin, no less -- she's not reliving trauma, she's anticipating sympathy) and then gradually exaggerating more and more when the story gets too old for her audience to give her what she wants, and then completely making shit up when she doesn't get the reaction she was expecting.

Throughout the 80's and early 90's there were several cases of child abuse that lead to many people's lives being destroyed due to false accusations.
Children are vulnerable to outside influences that lead to fabrication of testimony.[5] Their testimony can be influenced in a variety of ways. Maggie Bruck in her article published by the American Psychological Association wrote that children incorporate aspects of the interviewer's questions into their answers in an attempt to tell the interviewer what the child believes is being sought.[6] Studies also show that when adults ask children questions that do not make sense (such as "is milk bigger than water?" or "is red heavier than yellow?"), most children will offer an answer, believing that there is an answer to be given, rather than understand the absurdity of the question.[7] Furthermore, repeated questioning of children causes them to change their answers. This is because the children perceive the repeated questioning as a sign that they did not give the "correct" answer previously.[8] Children are also especially susceptible to leading and suggestive questions.[9] Some studies have shown that only a small percentage of children produce fictitious reports of sexual abuse on their own.[10][11][12][13] Other studies have shown that children understate occurrences of abuse.[14][15][16]

Interviewer bias also plays a role in shaping child testimony. When an interviewer has a preconceived notion as to the truth of the matter being investigated, the questioning is conducted in a manner to extract statements that support these beliefs.[8] As a result, evidence that could disprove the belief is never sought by the interviewer. Additionally, positive reinforcement by the interviewer can taint child testimony. Often such reinforcement is given to encourage a spirit of cooperation by the child, but the impartial tone can quickly disappear as the interviewer nods, smiles, or offers verbal encouragement to "helpful" statements.[8] Some studies show that when interviewers make reassuring statements to child witnesses, the children are more likely to fabricate stories of past events that never occurred.[17]

Peer pressure also influences children to fabricate stories. Studies show that when a child witness is told that his or her friends have already testified that certain events occurred, the child witness was more likely to create a matching story.[18] The status of the interviewer can also influence a child's testimony, because the more authority an interviewer has such as a police officer, the more likely a child is to comply with that person's agenda.[19]

Finally, while there are supporters of the use of anatomically correct dolls in questioning victims of sexual abuse/molestation, there are also critics of this practice.[20] These critics say that because of the novelty of the dolls, children will act out sexually explicit acts with the dolls even if the child has not been sexually abused.[20] Another criticism is that because the studies that compare the differences between how abused and non-abused children play with these dolls are conflicting (some studies suggest that sexually abused children play with anatomically correct dolls in a more sexually explicit manner than non-abused children, while other studies suggest that there is no correlation), it is impossible to interpret what is meant by how a child plays with these dolls.

Many cases were taken all the way to trial under the argument that children are innocent and pure, therefore they don't lie. (which leads me to take the same naïve, black and white approach they did and say that every single person involved in all those cases was never a child (or doesn't remember being one) and has never interacted with a child).

Children lie. The only relief I can give them in cases like the ones I mentioned above i that it is possible that some children might not understand that some lies are worse than others - maybe in their minds saying they didn't break the vase mommy likes so much is the same as saying someone touched them "down there".

What does all of this has to do with Amber? Amber is a pathological liar, and I'm pretty sure it didn't start after she turned 18. In fact, we have proof provided by Amber herself, that she lied as a child (granted, it was lie by omission, but it shows she takes pride in being dishonest).
 
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