Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

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You guy honestly would trust someone put out by a women's studies department at face value? All the specific social sciences are going to be staffed 100% by people with the same agenda, also at all the higher levels making sure the professor likes you is a matter of life and death, you're not getting shit with a BA in queer studies but unless you're accepted for a masters you're out in the real world. Your masters ain't going to do anything either so you'd better hope your professor let's you TA and recommends you for a doctorate. Like that's a system that has a snowball's chance in hell of being objective. Especially since as mentioned earlier, the nature of the subject produces fuzzy squishy results at best, lots of room to hide lies and bias.

Almost the whole body of work will eventually have to be tossed out, much of the work produced by the specific social sciences is consistently inconsistent with what other sciences have found. Once during an unrelated seminar a guy who took some queer studies class started arguing that testosterone doesn't change male behavior and the only thing he could say over and over was "show me the study I read a study in queer studies", mind you this is a guy who I like. Of course I was in class so I couldn't show him shit but just to be sure I went to medline later and there was no shortage of studies showing testosterone and other sex hormones change human behavior. I already knew this since I'd been weightlifting since he was in middle school and had already read plenty of studies not to mention seen it in my friends when they were on cycle.

I'm almost willing to bet his professor was pushing the whole gender roles as a purely social construct bullshit. Mark my words there will be scandal and decades of work will wasted.


I'm talking about the specific social sciences. Not the whole field. I think psychology and sociology are probably pretty solid. I think women's studies cares about getting money and pushing a political agenda.


Lol are you calling me marijan or are you saying we will need to throw out his body?
Be careful, he's been gone for awhile you don't wanna be a suspect!

I mean your view is quite similar to Marijan's - he refuses to believe any academic research published since the 1960s because he thinks feminism has made it all intellectually defunct.

Take it to Discussion, this thread is about a pedophile who shoves balloons up his nose.
 
As you can see, there is a rather large backlog of questions. I will get to them in due time.

What are your ambitions in life? Like where do you see yourself in 10 years? I am seriously curious because you seem to be so entirely focused on irrelevant issues and I wonder where you're going with your life. Did you or do you currently study anything? If not, you might want to give archeology a try, gets you to work with skulls and be paid for it.

Also, you are the least gay SlutHate member because everyone always obsesses over male models and your obsession is skulls.

I'm studying engineering and computer science. I have plenty of focuses in life, and in ten years I will probably have even more focuses.

The issues I focus on are much more important than the issues most people focus on (TV, sports, celebrities). To say that they are irrelevant is completely ludicrous.

You totally missed the point. I was being completely sarcastic to show you that you can't just say whatever you want without peer reviewed evidence if you want it to be seen as fact.

When I say "Citation Needed" I am telling you that if your work has not been tested by other scientists to see if it holds up to scrutiny then I have far less of a reason to believe you.

What if every Wikipedia article didn't have citations? You wouldn't be able to tell what is real and what was made up by someone else. If nobody else has tested your theories and seen if they are logically consistent then YOU ARE NOT ADHERING TO THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

So basically, you're setting me up for failure. I don't think any OFFICIAL SCIENTISTS are going to be running OFFICIAL EXPERIMENTS based on my theories. It is literally impossible for that to happen at this time. Because you want me to be wrong, you are choosing to define "correct" science in a way that makes me "wrong" by definition.

If "bankid" doesn't mean "looks like a banker," what does it mean? Words used in actual anthropology mean things: "Homo sapiens" means "knowledgable man," for example, and "Homo erectus" means "upright man."

Whoever made up these classifications is so illiterate they just put "-id" onto the ends of common English words. That is not how actual scientific nomenclature works.

Bankid does mean "looks like a banker". However, there are bankers who do not resemble the typical banker, and there are non-bankers who resemble bankers.

Adenid = looks like an individual with the condition of "adenoid facies"
Slayerid = looks like a slayer (an individual capable of obtaining casual sex with attractive women, without having extreme money/status)
Nobilid = looks like a noble individual
Thallid = looks like a Neanderthal (or "Thal" for short)
Potatid = looks like a potato
Tomatid = looks like a tomato
Borreby = looks like the human remains excavated in the region of Borreby, Denmark
Ethnikid = looks like an Ethnic individual

My nomenclature is very straightforward and self-explanatory. Many scientists do create terms using a similar system. For example, Linnaeus named many animals based on things they resembled, and added scientific-sounding suffixes.



Query: Why would you advocate such societies where you would likely not be able to survive in? With your lack of contributing to society or doing things for yourself, it quickly approaches a probability of one that you would die of exposure or lack of nutrition within either of these societies. To preempt your statement of how you would not die in these societies, explain why you wouldn't please.



That sounds very much akin to the Oasis Theory of Agriculture, which is one of the theories that is kind of on the marginal side, since the climate data counters the situation where this occurred. However, you could be referring to Demographics theory, which states similar reasons to this.

As an aside, why is hunting and gathering the superior method? What qualifies it as "better"? I'm asking because I think of method superiority as a mixture of food output and efficiency.



How are grains and dairy inferior? Also, how would you know that farming is less intensive than hunting? How do you rate that?



Query: would you count Persians as white? Just curious since you get interesting answers for and against depending on who you ask.

As an aside, you ever get your hands on some skulls and replicas of them to try out other theories of yours? Asking because the physical thing, or at least a copy would likely be far more useful than images of them.

1. If I wouldn't survive, then so be it. I am a physically degenerate modern specimen and people like me would not exist in a hunter-gatherer society. However, if the whole world was still in the Neanderthal phase, my soul would have been born into a Neanderthal body.

2. I'm not familiar with any of those theories, but I will look them up.

3. Hunting and gathering is superior because it leads to better nutrition (meat rather than grains), is more efficient (just find and kill an animal rather than having to raise it first), and requires people to keep stronger and mentally sharper than farming does.

4. Grains and dairy are inferior because we didn't evolve to consume them. Why do you think people report so much success with the paleo diet? Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy with retruded maxillas now?

5. I would not consider most Persians white, but I think that some of the elements which make up their ancestry are white and a minority of Persians express physical traits from these elements, creating a white appearance. There are white people living in some parts of the Middle East, like the Nuristan and Kalash regions between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
So basically, you're setting me up for failure. I don't think any OFFICIAL SCIENTISTS are going to be running OFFICIAL EXPERIMENTS based on my theories. It is literally impossible for that to happen at this time. Because you want me to be wrong, you are choosing to define "correct" science in a way that makes me "wrong" by definition.

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Do you even know what the scientific method is? Seriously, they told me about this shit in the 4th grade for gods sake.
  • Ask a Question
  • Do Background Research
  • Construct a Hypothesis (This is where you are at currently)
  • Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
  • Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
  • Communicate Your Results
You are at the stage where you have a hypothesis but haven't done any experiments to show for it and therefore no data either. You want people to take you seriously but you make claims and expect me to accept a hypothesis as fact. You skipped a step and drew a conclusion from a hypothesis. That is crazy.

You say the words "OFFICIAL" like its a dirty word. Why do you have such hostility towards other scientists?
 
@Amud

Can you tell me something about what this classification system predicts, specifically, about people? Say, for instance , that you have a strongly ethnikid person around. How would you predict they would differ from you, an adenid/thallid/etc? What can you tell me about a strongly potatid individual, knowing nothing else about him?
 
scientist-meme-6.jpg


Do you even know what the scientific method is? Seriously, they told me about this shit in the 4th grade for gods sake.
  • Ask a Question
  • Do Background Research
  • Construct a Hypothesis (This is where you are at currently)
  • Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
  • Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
  • Communicate Your Results
You are at the stage where you have a hypothesis but haven't done any experiments to show for it and therefore no data either. You want people to take you seriously but you make claims and expect me to accept a hypothesis as fact. You skipped a step and drew a conclusion from a hypothesis. That is crazy.

You say the words "OFFICIAL" like its a dirty word. Why do you have such hostility towards other scientists?
Honestly I'm pretty sure he skipped most of the steps and went straight to "draw a conclusion". Unless his question is "why don't girls want to date me" I do not think he's asked any questions that haven't already been answered by actual science.
3. Hunting and gathering is superior because it leads to better nutrition (meat rather than grains), is more efficient (just find and kill an animal rather than having to raise it first), and requires people to keep stronger and mentally sharper than farming does.

4. Grains and dairy are inferior because we didn't evolve to consume them. Why do you think people report so much success with the paleo diet?
Man, I could go into a long-ass rant criticizing everything wrong with this (there are many things wrong with it) but instead I'll just ask - what does your daily diet look like, on average?
 
@Amud

Can you tell me something about what this classification system predicts, specifically, about people? Say, for instance , that you have a strongly ethnikid person around. How would you predict they would differ from you, an adenid/thallid/etc? What can you tell me about a strongly potatid individual, knowing nothing else about him?

I already know what he will say. Knowing nothing about human brain chemistry nor the link between modern human skull shapes and personality and/or intelligence, he will make a series of claims without backing a single word of it up with facts. "Listen to what I say, because I have the authority to make baseless claims without evidence."

Basically he'll just dodge the question and make shit up. Thats @Amud for you.
 
My nomenclature is very straightforward and self-explanatory. Many scientists do create terms using a similar system. For example, Linnaeus named many animals based on things they resembled, and added scientific-sounding suffixes.

Several of your definitions seem more related to the facial tissues than bone structure however. In particular, things like the potatid seem very tied to how much flesh is attached to the face, and such a person could theoretically change to another facial type under the right circumstances (such as aging and/or losing weight). Why emphasize bones so much if a plurality of your descriptors seems tied to the flesh instead?

1. If I wouldn't survive, then so be it. I am a physically degenerate modern specimen and people like me would not exist in a hunter-gatherer society. However, if the whole world was still in the Neanderthal phase, my soul would have been born into a Neanderthal body.

I'd ask how you would know you'd be in a Neanderthal body, but I recall your hypothesis that Europeans and some Asian people evolved from them.

Speaking of which, where do you think Africans and other Asians who were non-neanderthals came from? The evolved Europeans, another hominid, or something else?

3. Hunting and gathering is superior because it leads to better nutrition (meat rather than grains), is more efficient (just find and kill an animal rather than having to raise it first), and requires people to keep stronger and mentally sharper than farming does.

How is meat more nutritious than grains? Last I checked grains had fibers, B vitamins, and stuff like magnesium and selenium in them that meat lacks. Don't get me wrong, meat is the king of providing proteins and irons, but I'm curious how meat alone is healthier than say a balanced and mixed diet of substances.

Also, doesn't hunting have an innate chance of failing to find food that raising livestock doesn't?

4. Grains and dairy are inferior because we didn't evolve to consume them. Why do you think people report so much success with the paleo diet? Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy with retruded maxillas now?

If we didn't evolve to handle dairy, then how come Europeans and other peoples who started raising cattle developed the genes that allowed them to continue consuming it? Also, if we didn't evolve to consume grains, why are most people able to derive energy from them too?

As for why the paleo diet is remarked with such success, isn't it possible that much like peer review, there's a motive behind supporting and proving it works? Namely the people that market and sell this idea want to make it look like it's good so they can continue to earn money?

As for the rise of obesity, I'd swear that a lot of it involves our way of life becoming more sedentary as well as the rise of cheap, greasy foods.

5. I would not consider most Persians white, but I think that some of the elements which make up their ancestry are white and a minority of Persians express physical traits from these elements, creating a white appearance. There are white people living in some parts of the Middle East, like the Nuristan and Kalash regions between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

That's a very common thought, since the land of Iran has traditionally been a crossroad of cultures, and it had influxes of Arabs and Turkic peoples for hundreds of years; the place is very multiethnic because of it.
 
How is meat more nutritious than grains? Last I checked grains had fibers, B vitamins, and stuff like magnesium and selenium in them that meat lacks. Don't get me wrong, meat is the king of providing proteins and irons, but I'm curious how meat alone is healthier than say a balanced and mixed diet of substances.

Also, doesn't hunting have an innate chance of failing to find food that raising livestock doesn't?



If we didn't evolve to handle dairy, then how come Europeans and other peoples who started raising cattle developed the genes that allowed them to continue consuming it? Also, if we didn't evolve to consume grains, why are most people able to derive energy from them too?.

Domesticated dogs evolved to be able to digest grains in order to live with humans.

Just pointing that out, because if humans aren't supposed to eat grains, then how the hell are dogs able to?
 
Slayerid = looks like a slayer

What kind of slayer? Vampire slayers, perhaps?

Ethnikid = looks like an Ethnic individual

Racial profiling, WOOOOOOOOO!

4. Grains and dairy are inferior because we didn't evolve to consume them.

This is bullshit if I've ever heard it, we've genetically modified grains to be edible through a little thing called selective breeding. We've also done the same thing to bananas. Also, fun fact, most Asian people can't consume milk because they're what we like to call lactose intolerant. The sugar in milk of any kind causes them to have horrible stomach aches that can lead to diarrhea or even vomiting. Do you know who doesn't have that problem? Whitey, I.E. you. We have the genetics to ingest lactose just fine because we have evolved to consume them. I have a question; do you regularly throw up upon consuming diary?

Why do you think people report so much success with the paleo diet?

Because it's a trend diet like fasting or the Atkins diet. Only educated people ever say bad things about homeopathic remedies.

Why do you think everybody is obese and unhealthy

Because many people happen to have addictive personalities and fast food is designed to grant the consumer easy access to sustenance. Humans are literally designed to gain weight, there's even three different body types of human beings called endomorphs, mesomorphs and ectomorphs.

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The endomorph is the fat fuck of humanity. He would have a higher life expectancy in the wild because his body is optimized to burn less fuel and store more fat in times of starvation. His obesity would grant him a higher grade of shielding for things like major arteries so he wouldn't bleed out like the other body types.

I'm assuming that the mesomorph would be a shoe in for your "slayerid" category. Don't take that out of context by assuming that I'm giving you validation.

with retruded maxillas now?

Why is it that the person who constantly brags about his slightly superior genetics is obsessed with fixing his deformed skull with self administered, backyard surgery? I do not have a fucked up maxilla, it fits my face the way it's meant to.
 
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there's even three different body types of human beings called endomorphs, mesomorphs and ectomorphs.

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I don't know why this theory's stuck around so long, but the whole somatotypes thing is pretty widely considered to be bullshit. I mean, the guy who originally came up with it thought you could classify personality differences from the different body types, which sounds a lot like what our very own @Amud is doing with skulls.
 
I'm studying engineering and computer science. I have plenty of focuses in life, and in ten years I will probably have even more focuses.
2. I do not read a lot. Actually, I pretty much never read. I'd like to. Reading is one of those things that I know I should be doing, but never really get around to it.
Oh yeah, you'll go far in engineering.

Say Muddy, (mind if I call you Muddy?) considering you're so obsessed with having good genetics and your little fan-made Skyrim race chart, wouldn't by virtue of having a deformed skull, that make you a potatid?
 
I don't know why this theory's stuck around so long, but the whole somatotypes thing is pretty widely considered to be bullshit. I mean, the guy who originally came up with it thought you could classify personality differences from the different body types, which sounds a lot like what our very own @Amud is doing with skulls.

I didn't know it was debunked. Thanks for the info.
 
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