An update to dislikes on YouTube

[I Love Beef]

Even Null lets us have our in A&N

"bububut kiwifarms doesn't count because it's a far alt right cabal of huwite supremacists and anti-progressive sjws reeee"

That makes the way TV worked before the internet sound pretty dystopian.

No wonder art of people getting brainwashed by TV was made back then.

The "sweet spot" of the internet was before the heavy censorship of Current Year, but after the internet took off in the mid to late '00s.

No, TV had the benefit of being the entertainment pinnacle where if "money doesn't talk, your show fucking walks", and where you could outright turn the damn thing off or go to another channel where programs that you liked were playing.

Youtube, Netflix, and Crunchyroll are being called out for what it is because it is worse TV. Everything that everyone got worried about TV being a propaganda tool in all of its poetic irony has gone to video sites and streaming platforms, because while if you had a studio, you could broadcast freely out of your own property while still being a part of the lineup, while Youtube and all of them directly own and control the servers and databases, and to where the internet is now practically made a vital part of our lives.

And freedom of speech was much more freer back in the day. If there was something that really bit your ass and fucking hated it, you could do something like write angry letters to the network or call their line to clog up their answering machines up the ass with angry messages vocalizing your discontent. Sure, some of them were fucking morons who belonged to the morality squads and up and became an hero or were ran out of town when shows like Beavis and Butthead ended, but you could do the same thing to garbage like televangelism or late night scam infomercials that openly advertised pyramid schemes. Even the news back then was more fucking nuanced than today's openly polarized and gerrymandering horseshit. And if you didn't like what normal TV was doing, Cable and Satellite practically let any channel do what they want as long as the ratings were nice and the timeslot was appropriate. Fuck, anime nearly broke the fucking FCC. That was freedom.

Also, what streaming services are doing isn't exactly new. Satellite TV services and Tivo allowed you to watch programs at your own time while still broadcasting at daily time slots for their general features. Netflix only got lucky because they made windfall over dominating the rental market, and upon bankrupting the physical rental market, switched entirely to streaming upon the Great Recession and the public doing anything to secure their wallets to the penny. Youtube also doesn't have any excuse either, they literally fucking won against Viacom when the latter tried to sue them for hosting episodes of Nicktoons and older programming, and instead of steamrolling over them and forcing them and Hollywood to actually be assed enough to put in effort again in show business, let them copyright strike anything on their site.

So if anything, corporate meddling over Youtube isn't anything new, and hindsight is 20/20. I might have gotten a few things off here and there, but that was what TV was truly about. Dislikes back then were more fucking hardcore than today, and ironically, Youtube is smelling something fucking rank with removing dislikes. Fuck them.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Fuck, anime nearly broke the fucking FCC.

How did that happen?

I still kind of like that "sweet spot" time, because it seemed like a balance between the "honknet" of Clown World and the way of the pre-internet days. Internet speeds and computer graphics were advanced, and "normies" weren't online as much because "smartphone culture" and "social" media weren't widespread like they are now.

Too bad that time seemed so short.

(I noticed that more nuanced old reporting too. example: Sign of the Times - Times Square 1998 Report - YouTube)

 

[I Love Beef]

How did that happen?

I still kind of like that "sweet spot" time, because it seemed like a balance between the "honknet" of Clown World and the way of the pre-internet days. Internet speeds and computer graphics got good, but "normies" weren't online as much because "smartphone culture" and "social" media weren't widespread like they are now.

Too bad that time seemed so short.

Spoiler: Sperging

It was thanks to Cartoon Network and Toonami for this. Because while Toonami wanted to put anime on the air during the afternoon in the after school hours back in the 1990s, the FCC began to realize that anime shit like Pokemon and Digimon weren't just fads, and that anime didn't fit the "traditional guidelines" for animation that was made in the USA (ie not just regulating that animation must be kid friendly and be either a slapstick comedy or a superhero show, but cannot showcase foreign culture elements, blood and violence, etc), while the anime fan crowd knew exactly what they wanted and made major noise, from writing angry letters about censored shows to teenagers and gamers wanting in more on the anime style they got from video games and causing Toonami's ratings to skyrocket in the States. While on daytime TV, you'd obviously see censoring so that shows would air, Adult Swim was perfect for airing uncensored and uncut episodes late at night. This was the time when the FCC learned the hard way that animation could be more than just whatever shit Disney and animation studios out west tethered by strict guidelines pumps out to mindlessly babysit children by their mindless parents all day and to mindlessly obey the fucky "Morality In Media" assholes. They tried to make Cartoon Network "make more locally made series", but the money was already there, and when the fandom heard about torrenting and when cable TV was going to make its way out the door, it was too late to put the cat in the bag.

It was a sweet spot of a time, like a crossroads where everyone would decide on where to go to from then on out.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It was a sweet spot of a time, like a crossroads where everyone would decide on where to go to from then on out.

Back then censorship was getting minimal, because the pendulum was between hard left and hard right.

 

[Doppio Vinegar]

Dislikes on YouTube comments already did absolutely nothing, so I'm not shocked they're doing it for videos, too. After all, they took the community captions feature away as a big fuck-you to deaf people, so why not take dislikes off videos as a big fuck-you to people searching up how to do the Heimlich to save Grandma?

 

[The Lawgiver]

Dislikes are still enabled for me on pretty much anything I've accessed youtube from. Seems to be the case for a lot of people, too.

lmao

 

[Joe Swanson]

Dislikes on YouTube comments already did absolutely nothing, so I'm not shocked they're doing it for videos, too. After all, they took the community captions feature away as a big fuck-you to deaf people, so why not take dislikes off videos as a big fuck-you to people searching up how to do the Heimlich to save Grandma?

Over a decade ago likes and dislikes were used to prioritize what comments appeared on the top of a comment chain and would hide a comment (with a button to click show) if you got enough dislikes

 

[The Lawgiver]

So I got the "no visible dislikes thing" happening to me now but uh, it's only on one video right now. That video being the fucking Rap video of the guy that mowed down that parade recently. Dislikes on that video are still visible for other people so it's weird to me how I can still see the dislike count on every video save for that one specifically.

 

[Pissmaster]

oc

 

[Jack Awful]

Finally got it.

The worst part is there's no way to change YouTube's mind and everyone will get used to it and forget by next year, as they always do.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Finally got it.

The worst part is there's no way to change YouTube's mind and everyone will get used to it and forget by next year, as they always do.

Same thing happened here. Guess they fixed whatever the fuck they failed to fully push through nearly 2 weeks after the fact.
I fucking hate how blatant the lies are now. Everyone calls them out and either gets radio silence, canned responses, or in the rare case reddit/twitter janny snark followed by more blatant lies about everybody wanting this. People apperently are getting suspended more lately too because there's a weirdly high amount of responses to youtube's announcement on twitter saying they suddenly got an influx of fake copyright claim DMCA flags out of nowhere and lost their account access, only to get canned response after canned response.

We are entering a new golden age for pajeeet scammers on Youtube due to this decision.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Of course the 19M+ dislikes on the Rewind 2018 are now invisible as well.

They try to censor opposition - and even discontent - with The Narrative.

It really is so tiresome.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

dislikes dont appear when im in incognito mode. however, as long as im logged into my youtube account, i can still see them

least until december 13th when they update it by force and we no longer see dislikes on videos for the entire site

 

[The Lawgiver]

dislikes dont appear when im in incognito mode. however, as long as im logged into my youtube account, i can still see them

least until december 13th when they update it by force and we no longer see dislikes on videos for the entire site

Weird it was like that for me till today. Maybe it's cookie rollout based?

 

[TurdFondler]

Even the news back then was more fucking nuanced than today's openly polarized and gerrymandering horseshit.

There was a time when journos were legit counterculture and blew the lid off stuff. It almost seemed like the "integrity" of "journalistic integrity" was still there.

The old way of news was centered around big stories, giving journos time to do the legwork. There were of course fluff stories and junk and propaganda, but the medium was slower. Film takes time, typesetting takes time. Long form journalism was more common, so were in depth interviews. I mean, if you're gonna set up film cameras everything has got to pay for itself. During the Obama campaign the turnaround time on press photogs was like a week, they were still mailing film canisters.

The 24 hour news cycle broke news entirely. There's no incentive to do longform because clicks and outrage are the most profitable. Who cares about nuance when Biden rapes kids or Orange man bad??

The good news is that if the barrier to entry for small streamers is going to be so high, they'll go elsewhere. No one is too big to fail.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

24 hour news cycle

I kind of miss when "more at 11" was a phrase the news still used.

 

[TurdFondler]

Same. It was nice when content was finite and ended.

You could read the last comic strip or latest blog post. Sites updated once a day at very most. Now it's all endless.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

Same. It was nice when content was finite and ended.

You could read the last comic strip or latest blog post. Sites updated once a day at very most. Now it's all endless.

Those were the golden days of autism. You could theoretically get to the party late, start at the beginning, and catch up. Now you just gotta jump in to today with a big hole in your knowledge.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

That makes the way TV worked before the internet sound pretty dystopian.

No wonder art of people getting brainwashed by TV was made back then.

The "sweet spot" of the internet was before the heavy censorship of Current Year, but after the internet took off in the mid to late '00s.

When would you say the "sweet spot" happened?
I would say about 2006-2013.

 

[TurdFondler]

Kids these days will never know the anxiety that came with running late and not knowing if you'd miss your show.