And a Child Shall Mislead Them - Arch-"skeptic" Penn Jillette: the latest -- and most ironic -- convert to Troonism

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And a Child Shall Mislead Them

David Cole
October 19, 2021
And a Child Shall Mislead Them

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Penn Jillette


This week, we take a focused look at how the West’s most destructive superstition can grip the mind of even the most strident “rationalist,” and what that means for those of us who don’t partake in the séance.

Penn Jillette, the tall half of the hugely successful magician duo Penn & Teller, is one of the entertainment industry’s most outspoken atheists. For decades, Jillette has smugly condemned all manner of religious, psychic, and pseudoscientific irrationality. He also has a fan base on the right, because as a self-described libertarian, Jillette’s often mused about how “taxation is theft” and government compulsion is bad.

Penn Jillette: a man with no gods, including government. A man who falls for no (to use the title of his Showtime series) “bullshit.”
Then his teenage daughter decided that she’s a man. And the world witnessed how quickly the “smug” vanishes from the rationalist when the bullshit hits too close to home.
About a year or so ago, Jillette’s daughter, Moxie Crimefighter (yes, that’s her name), decided that she’d been “assigned the wrong sex at birth.” And she demanded that her parents no longer use female pronouns for her, like, ever.

Back in 2014, Jillette bragged on his podcast about how he’d raised Moxie to “laugh at God.”

There’s an old saying I just coined: “When you laugh at God, He laughs back and best.” Because now Jillette—Mr. “no pseudoscience,” Mr. “no cults or flimflam”—has become the spokesperson for the biggest pseudoscientific cultlike flimflam of the 21st century. The guy who’s spent a career deconstructing magic (“no, the bouquet of flowers didn’t actually become a rabbit; it was sleight of hand”) is now a true believer that a girl can actually become a boy overnight, by the sheer power of mentalism!

Abracagender!

In theory, none of this is our concern. What transpires in the Jillette household is solely the business of the Jillettes.

But Penn makes it our business.

As part of Jillette’s conversion to spiritualist, he’s publicly renounced his libertarianism (on CNN, no less!), he’s embraced burdensome government, and he’s thrown his support full-throttle behind Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom as they promote policies that strong-arm us to “see” Jillette’s spooks and spirits (Newsom in particular is arguably the most “compulsory” politico in the country when it comes to forcing people to accept tranny theology). Jillette supports politicians who want to force girls to shower, change, and go to the bathroom alongside biological boys. Those same politicians have eliminated cervical cancer smear test outreaches to women (because it’s a hate crime to say that only women have a cervix), and the Mayo Clinic—joining the madness—has scrubbed its cervical cancer awareness page of any mention of women.

“This is cultlike behavior; there’s no other way to put it.”

To be clear, women will die from the elimination of targeted cervical cancer outreach, and girls will be, and have been, raped by boys playing tranny to infiltrate the girls’ bathroom. Jillette used to be a campaigner against “psychic surgeon” frauds who endanger people by pretending to cure their disease, thus prompting them to neglect legitimate treatment. Yet now he supports politicians who put women at risk because of a belief system no less irrational than psychic healing.
Jillette’s also pledged to ban gender pronouns from his CW series Fool Us:

I have tried to eliminate all gender pronouns from our show. That’s very difficult for me, because I’m uneducated. I have that autodidact, irritating quality of reading old grammar books. So it’s very difficult for me to use third-person plural as third-person singular, but I’ve done it. I used to say he or she a lot, but I learned the binary gender thing was impolite and inconsiderate.

Dude’s apologizing for being erudite (he literally says being well versed in grammar means being “uneducated”).

Jillette’s also stopped using the term “female magicians” in favor of “people who self-identify as women in magic” (that’s not even remotely cumbersome). And most batshit of all, he supports the use of “gender-free playing cards,” in which king, queen, and jack are replaced by “gold, silver, and bronze.” It’s not even clear to me why a tranny would be disturbed by a face card; if boys who think they’re girls really are girls, and if girls who think they’re boys really are boys, then what’s offensive about seeing a female queen and a male king? They can identify with whichever one they feel like that day.

Yet Jillette asks no such questions (the “man of logic” is long gone). It’s not possible to overstate the magnitude of the “genderless deck” thing. Here’s a fella who’s devoted his life to magic, not just as a practitioner, but a historian. And yet he favors altering something that’s not only fundamental to his field but historical.
This is cultlike behavior; there’s no other way to put it. He’s obviously a loving father, but in his desire to support his daughter, he’s undergone a personality change. That’s not being a supportive dad; that’s being brainwashed.

Jillette’s podcast, titled Sunday School to mock Christians, has ironically become an actual pulpit, a place where he can preach tranny theology and flagellate himself as a sinner. “Our dinner table conversation is I would say at least one-quarter correcting pronouns,” Jillette revealed on a recent episode, castigating himself for still occasionally calling Moxie “she.” When his cohost responded, “Well, at least it sounds like your children respect the effort,” Jillette, reproaching himself for his failures, bitterly replied, “Maybe I should just do it fuckin’ right.”

Jillette also apologized for having trouble with the proper pronouns for Moxie’s friends, who “have they, him, her, and it and some of them change day by day.” That’s a startling admission (though Jillette’s too blind to understand why): How committed to the bit are these kids if they “change day by day”? It’s one thing to claim that a girl suddenly discovers the boy living within. That’s nutty enough.

But changing “day by day” suggests unseriousness. Yet Jillette supports authoritarian politicians who want to remake society based purely on the “day by day” whims of children.
It’s instructive to recall that six years ago I interviewed a trans activist I’d known since childhood, and I reminded her about a dear mutual friend who was almost raped in the girls’ bathroom at our school. The rape was interrupted by a teacher who saw the rapist enter and ran over to enforce the school’s “no boys in the girls’ room” policy. With boys now welcome in whatever bathroom they “identify” with, I asked the activist, “What’s going to stop assaults like the one our friend endured?”

Her response? “It’s not like suddenly a child is going to school all boy, masculine, maybe even in sports, and then comes to school in a dress declaring they are now a girl. When a child is trans, they know from the get-go. These are not just any boys who declare, ‘I’m a girl now!’”

I knew that answer was bullshit, and Jillette inadvertently confirms that with his “day by day” observation.

On another podcast episode, Jillette condemned Moxie’s grandma for “fucking up the pronouns,” and he called himself “stupid as soil samples” for committing similar infractions.
Tell me that’s not cultish. Cults are all about making you condemn yourself (for your old sinful ways), your family, and your profession. Cults are about forcing renunciation and rebirth. It’s what authors Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman call “snapping.”

Here’s an example of the extent to which Jillette has “snapped”:

In 2014, he was called out by a Muslim journalist for trolling the musician formerly known as Cat Stevens on Twitter, purposely using his “dead name” and not his Muslim name (Yusuf Islam). I’m no fan of Muslims, but to be fair the guy’s been Yusuf Islam since 1977, and Cat Stevens was a stage name anyway.

“Would be nice if you called him by the name he wants to be called,” journalist Shakeel Hashim tweeted to Jillette.

“I think it’s funny to use that name. I do not respect this decision in any way,” Jillette replied.

Jillette basically said, “I do not respect this person’s choice to change his name and identity. In fact, I find it funny.”

But that was back when Jillette was a “skeptic.” Before the cult got him. Indeed, I’d argue that the tranny cult is worse than any religious cult, because it lacks the concept of a loving God. There’s no hope of redemption; only the promise of more haranguing and correction.

As Conway and Siegelman point out, most people “snap” because an emotional weakness is exploited, or because something happens in their life that “disrupts continuity.” The tranny cult got to Jillette through his child, through his obvious love for her, and through the continuity break that occurred when the girl he raised declared she’s not a girl. That’s how they hooked an otherwise intelligent 66-year-old man. But the cult demands more than that he just accept and love his daughter; he needs to cleanse himself of disbelief, and he needs to back politicians who strive to cleanse us.

Many on the right tend to think that the tranny cult targets kids in order to estrange them from their families. And in many cases, that’s true. But as the Jillette example starkly illustrates, hooking the kids can be an effective way to hook the parents. Brainwashing can flow upstream. A loving parent (like Jillette) accepts pseudoscience (a person can think themselves into changing their biological sex). In accepting this as truth, it logically follows that those who disagree—those who see childish fad and body dysmorphia, not “assigned sex vs. willed sex”—are harmful to “trans” children. So they must be stopped.

And that’s how you pull off the magic trick of turning a cynical libertarian into a woke social justice true believer who supports politicians who use all manner of force and coercion in the name of enforcing tranny dogma.

Several weeks ago in a Twitter thread discussing my column (and hey, follow me on Twitter before I get banned!), I was reminded that in Psychopathology of Everyday Life, Freud observed that social pressure to avoid saying something can lead to people no longer thinking the thing they’re not supposed to say. In other words, the mind conforms to the boundaries. We simply stop thinking things we know we can’t speak aloud.

The self-washing brain.

Parents seeking to patronize a child immersed in tranny faddism will soon stop thinking what they’re not allowed to say. Privately harbored skepticism will vanish the longer it isn’t allowed to be verbalized. And soon enough, you have converts. Old knowledge of gender reality is lost, replaced by the cult’s redefinition.
On Fool Us, Penn & Teller award a trophy to any magician who can fool them.

Penn deserves the biggest trophy of all…the dude literally fooled himself.

An impressive achievement, and one that certainly excites those who wish to remake America…just as it depresses the remaining anti-cult holdouts who still cling to the term “rationalist” like it means something.
 
Personally bro I don't think it takes religion to make people have common sense and a basic idea of morality, and I really don't understand why the majority here seem to think "That's what people like this get if they don't believe in Christ!" It's just as dumb as the atheist shit.

Considering Jillette was like any other tryhard atheist who stuck very hard to the idea of "science and the laws of the universe are ultimately the truth", that's more of where my disappointment comes. If you really believed that much in the science, and you especially made it a point to raise your children with your same mindset and ideals, then how the fuck are you that easily swayed by Clown World bullshit?? It's just all tiring.
It doesn't take religion, however religion forces one to abide by a set of principles and have discipline... It's why no one really insults agnostics because they usually have a better grasp on morality than atheist despite the protests to the contrary. They also learn to abide by discipline which has been attacked in recent years by some of those same groups.

The other issue is even religious people are often immoral, but what keeps them in line is like a carrot glued to the front of their nose. Most people have not fully evolved and as I saw it when I was little some people are fully rational intelligent human beings, others... The light is on but nobody is home.

The reason even atheist and science-believers fall for it is just like the religious normie, they are reacting on impulse and directed by some other function. It's the difference between people who often abide by their own logic and form their identity based off their experiences, and those who make their identity based off of what others tell them to do. Ever see those people who repeat the traditions of their family and claims hook line and sinker without ever questioning it, or join a group or what have you and fall in line or better yet, notice all the people around us in society who don't question the governments actions and dare not use their brain to pose an objection even if temporary?

Basically, most people are brainless and followers, and very few defy the sheep like mentality. Atheist are no exception despite their claims of being so. There are some atheist who are, but religion kept people in line, with that gone, now you have a random chaotic group of idiots being led by a new religion under the guise of "science." It also doesn't help not all atheist abide by the same morality so then one has to ask what should be followed and what doesn't if you follow that line of thinking, and if you can't get two people in society to agree on basic common sense, what hope of you do you have that people will abide by a strict moral paradigm?

Edit: Religion is a necessary evil to keep society functioning without having all the normies letting immoral actors and leaders take over by preying upon their good intenitons by telling them "good" from "bad." It's why in the old days even many atheist abided by the churches or were part of the church community.
 
Personally bro I don't think it takes religion to make people have common sense and a basic idea of morality
Imagine still thinking this is the case, imagine thinking after the last several years that there exists common sense and a basic idea of morality.

Fucking lol dude, have you been paying any attention at all?

Religious thinking is hard wired into the human psyche, it's literally human nature, there's no escaping it, look at the Religiosity that's developed around Woke ideology, people practically worship George Floyd in a literal sense.

You can bemoan the fact and wish things were different but that's just the way humans are, the question is what's better, a Religion developed over thousands of years of trial and error or crazy bullshit that's sprung up in the last decade? To quote Vince Offer "I don't know, it sells itself!"

What egregious sin did I commit in a former life that I'm living through this timeline?

If someone wants to change genders, whatever. BUT when they start saying that no one else can use gendered pronouns, that is abuse.

One person's rights end where the next person's rights begin. Stop letting the village idiot have a say in how the village is run. Goddamn!
I'm not even as 100% anti-trans as some people on here probably are, if an adult wants to cross dress, take hormones and "identify" as the opposite gender than fine, but this shit has gone way, WAY past the point of any reason or logic.

For one thing it isn't just about trans as a basic concept, it's also the fact that it's been hijacked by the radical, militant Woke movement that is using it as a weapon and a cudgel to seize even more political power, Woke doesn't actually give a shit about trans people just like it doesn't actually give a shit about blacks, women, gays etc, everyone is just a tool to be used and abused so the mind virus can gain even more power.
 
Personally bro I don't think it takes religion to make people have common sense and a basic idea of morality, and I really don't understand why the majority here seem to think "That's what people like this get if they don't believe in Christ!" It's just as dumb as the atheist shit.

Considering Jillette was like any other tryhard atheist who stuck very hard to the idea of "science and the laws of the universe are ultimately the truth", that's more of where my disappointment comes. If you really believed that much in the science, and you especially made it a point to raise your children with your same mindset and ideals, then how the fuck are you that easily swayed by Clown World bullshit?? It's just all tiring.
I was just expressing my disappointment as well that people who will shut out any idea of gods or the supernatural will readily believe the clown world shit.

Honesty, some of it is probably just for the purposes of survival. If you want to continue to be accepted by your group, continue to stay relevant, you gotta accept the groupthink and go along with the herd. This is especially true when it comes to entertainment/Hollywood.
 
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So is there more info other than "daughter trooned out" in the article?
I'm not wading through all this whining about Penn's (non-)beliefs.

It's more about how he's gone way overboard to #woke it up for her sake. To the point where he will no longer be using gendered language on his show.

It makes me wonder if they had a bad relationship and he's trying to make up for it by being the "Cool woke dad". If so it's total cringe and hilarious.
 
It's more about how he's gone way overboard to #woke it up for her sake. To the point where he will no longer be using gendered language on his show.

It makes me wonder if they had a bad relationship and he's trying to make up for it by being the "Cool woke dad". If so it's total cringe and hilarious.
I'm guessing that she hates him for giving her that name, and that he realized too late that making your own child's permanent identity part of your Ironic Smartass act can backfire on you in a heartbreaking way. If so, he's not the first person whose attempts to allay their guilt drive their already-disturbed child into even deeper dysfunction.
 
I'm guessing that she hates him for giving her that name, and that he realized too late that making your own child's permanent identity part of your Ironic Smartass act can backfire on you in a heartbreaking way. If so, he's not the first person whose attempts to allay their guilt drive their already-disturbed child into even deeper dysfunction.
Not all leftism is projection. Some of it is self-flagellation. An attempt to atone. Bad people going overboard on purification rituals in order to "fix" themselves is a tale as old as time.

Right now, swearing fealty to the establishment and all the doctrine therefrom is the secular equivalent of a baptism. They're basically Born Again NPCs. They shed their old thoughts and replace them with programming, thereby becoming a different person, free from the sins of their old life.
 
Imagine still thinking this is the case, imagine thinking after the last several years that there exists common sense and a basic idea of morality.
I can't imagine it. Epstein died and the comfortable West collectively shrugged like a naughty boy who got caught throwing a baseball through a window. To have faith in Man at this point is simply clownish. Read Dostoyevsky, guys, I'm begging you.
 
This is a man who raised his daughter in a household of "polyamorous" relationships, a house where photos and images of naked women were abundant and out in public. No similar images of naked men. How would it feel to grow up in a house where women were basically treated as playthings for your wealthy parents and scenery for guests to discuss as if they weren't even human? That's what Moxie grew up with. No wonder she didn't want to be a girl.
 
I'm not bothered or surprised that Penn is going woke for trannies(especially since he's stuck with one) but HOLY FUCK am I mad about the playing cards thing:

Jillette’s also stopped using the term “female magicians” in favor of “people who self-identify as women in magic” (that’s not even remotely cumbersome). And most batshit of all, he supports the use of “gender-free playing cards,” in which king, queen, and jack are replaced by “gold, silver, and bronze.” It’s not even clear to me why a tranny would be disturbed by a face card; if boys who think they’re girls really are girls, and if girls who think they’re boys really are boys, then what’s offensive about seeing a female queen and a male king? They can identify with whichever one they feel like that day.

This is the first I'm hearing of it, and I reject it wholeheartedly. @CatParty keep an eye out for articles where the insane Left start bullying Hoyle® into making these faggy new poker decks and which(if any) casinos adopt them. I can grudgingly accept Magic the Gathering going down the woke toilet but you have to draw a line somewhere, jesus christ.
 
Not sure who is funnier, Moxie Crimefighter or Penn or the religious nutter who wrote this because he is upset because Penn made fun of his god in the past.
If you loudly beat a drum about being a rationalist and strict materialist, then abandon it to embrace the Tranny Cult because your daughter joined up, then you shouldn't be surprised when people point out your hypocrisy. Just because the people pointing it out have an ideological reason to come after you, that doesn't make their arguments wrong.
 
If you loudly beat a drum about being a rationalist and strict materialist, then abandon it to embrace the Tranny Cult because your daughter joined up, then you shouldn't be surprised when people point out your hypocrisy. Just because the people pointing it out have an ideological reason to come after you, that doesn't make their arguments wrong.
But the fact the writer spends so much time on his religious butthurt he has is funny and also makes him a person to laugh at in this. He really didn't need any of that to point and laugh at Penn.
 
This is a man who raised his daughter in a household of "polyamorous" relationships, a house where photos and images of naked women were abundant and out in public. No similar images of naked men. How would it feel to grow up in a house where women were basically treated as playthings for your wealthy parents and scenery for guests to discuss as if they weren't even human? That's what Moxie grew up with. No wonder she didn't want to be a girl.
It's very worrying, I hear about all sorts of really wealthy men who are total sexual hedonists. Like their wealth turns them into these gross sexual gluttons who lack empathy for the women they're fucking. Gimmie more women for more fucking!!! More!!! More!!! More!!!

I want to know where the really wealthy men are who DON'T allow their wealth to turn them into fucking coomers on steroids.
 
It's very worrying, I hear about all sorts of really wealthy men who are total sexual hedonists. Like their wealth turns them into these gross sexual gluttons who lack empathy for the women they're fucking. Gimmie more women for more fucking!!! More!!! More!!! More!!!

I want to know where the really wealthy men are who DON'T allow their wealth to turn them into fucking coomers on steroids.
South Park has an episode for absolutely everything.
 
I wonder if the rise in far right has in the way same virus origins, basically since a lot of this Socjus shit is hijacking empathy and then basically making it select fire thus allowing the cultmasters to control people by controling who they care about and who they consider their enemy, and far right is sort of attempt at defence to form defense group you can trust which has to be your ingroup and it would also explain international cooperation on nationalists, notice how the cooperation goes from Europe to North America, South America, and interestigly how people seem to look on Japan and in part Vietnam, Japan was always inspired by the West once they forced the opening and Vietnam literally based their constituiton on USA at first before USA side with France, basically Socjus by trying to slander Western Civilisation as Evil made it become rallying beacon for their opposition which is now growing on its.
 
Back in 2014, Jillette bragged on his podcast about how he’d raised Moxie to “laugh at God.”
Same thing happened to Linus Torvalds' son and he successfully convinced Linus to adopt the tranny-made code of conduct.
More evidence that bad parenting contributes to transsexualism.

There's a delicious irony to this. The whole rationalism/new-atheism shit created a campus culture of all the smart people shitting on the humanities and abandoning them entirely which lead to the whole of the fields from literature to history to psychology getting taken over by frauds, grifters and activists which directly lead to the troon shit we see today.
I think you got the cause and effect backwards. People abandoned "humanities" and "social science" because they saw these are overtaken by frauds. And these "disciplines" reacted by disparaging Science.

Hot Cup of Joe said:
But with woke and trooning out, where's the doctrine? Where's the guides, ideas or principles? It's so very un-human and spread unnaturally, in that you can't point to an author and say "i believe this"
They have canonic texts, such as Beauvoir's The Second Sex, Haraway's The Cyborg Manifesto, and Butler's Gender Trouble. All these are however extremely dense and unlikely to be casual daily readings like the Bible. So regarding this New Church of Gender, we are back to the situation of the middle ages, when most people were illiterate and had to rely on learned clergies to know the word of their Idols.

Personally bro I don't think it takes religion to make people have common sense and a basic idea of morality,
Theoretically this is true (and had been my belief for quite a while); practically, people will try very hard to excuse themselves from moral infarctions. Having a super-human guidance, or even a community of common belief, will make people think trice before stepping out of the line.
 
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