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Manosphere Andrew Tate / Top G / Cobratate - Egotistical MRA "influencer", arrested for trafficking in Romania, lied about having lung cancer
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The OP needs some polishing and clips/posts that should give a reason to why this person deserves a thread here.
Granted because of him getting nuked, it's gonna be a bit harder to find these.
Yesterday, J Aubrey uploaded a video about him.
It's an hour long, so I'll recap interesting parts
Granted because of him getting nuked, it's gonna be a bit harder to find these.
Yesterday, J Aubrey uploaded a video about him.
It's an hour long, so I'll recap interesting parts
- His parents seperated because his father cheated on his mother, resulting his family post-seperation moving to UK. He (obviously) resents and blames his mother for this, while viewing his father as a heroic figure for essentially leaving his family to play chess. Surprise, surprise.
- He has a sister that cut all contact with him and his brother Tristan. Claims she's a typical Pro-feminism and BLM supporting lefty Liberal.
Views her as "her husband's property" because of his view that women are men's property. - Was on Bri'tish Big Brother in 2016. Got kicked out after 6 days, due to of a video of him beating his back then girlfriend with a belt that leaked to the public. Meanwhile,
he claimed that the executive producers kicked him out because he had a giga 5D brilliant chess plan, which if it was executed would have a great impact on the show.
Claimed that the video in question was consensual between both him and the woman, had her pose with the belt and tattoo herself with a sign that said "Tate's property" near her pubic region. - Caused an uproar with the infamous "Depression isn't real" that caused a particular ire with Robin Williams's daugther, Zelda Williams.
- Got into a slapfight with a cartoonist Jon Rosenberg, telling Jon that he could save his chronically ill son if he begged him too, despite Jon already back then making a GoFundMe for his son and succesfully reaching the goal. Resulted in Andrew attempting and failing miserably take credit for the success of his GoFundMe being successfully funded
- Got clapped in a twitch debate by Turkroach Hasan, out of all people, causing him to ragequit the stream.
- His obvious misogynistic views on women (saying how they are property of men, less intelligent than men, they shouldn't drive and should not be airplane pilots, refusing to give any time for a woman that considers herself as an equal to a man, that women that do OF should give half of the cut to their "owners")
- Has various ponzi schemes, with the most popular one being the Hustlers College, which is just an overglorifyed Discord server and a course that teaches men how to pimp out women, that gives you the certificate for being a pimp
- Has connections and associations with various alt-right figures, most popular being Tommy Robinson and Paul Joseph Watson
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Yeah, it's a shame. There's more than enough material on him for a comprehensive OP, especially if we include his slapfights and miscellaneous crazy rants.
Some shit from his mailing list. Unironically reminds me of QAnon.
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I don't know of anyone who has survived deplatforming or for whom it hasn't been a significant setback. Every single major or minor political player, pundit, influencer, etc. has been marginalised at least to some extent after he was kicked off of social media/the Internet. I'm a pessimist by nature and assume the same will be true for Andrew Tate, but it'll be interesting to see what he makes of it.
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Dunno. I checked the rumble links in the screenshots of @Blatant hypocrite. seems like the fucker claims this is all part of the plan. Now there's a chance he pulls a Bane from The Dark Knight Rises, but I highly doubt it. Will look into the rumble links later
EMERGENCY MEETING 1 - THE MATRIX ATTACKS.
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rumble.com
Checking it out right now. Timestamps approximate to 10s. They keep circling back on their previous points. This has been a tiring watch. I feel my attention falling off arounf the 40min mark, but I am sustained through pure, unadulterated abhorrence
he repeatedly mentions freetopg.com its literally just his "final message" and the caption "learn the truth"
he repeatedly answers his superchats. theyre all sucking his dick
0:00:00 to 0:04:20: Theme song (in French, does anyone know it? What does it mean?) and intro
0:04:20 to 0:04:35: "what made you think you could stop andrew tate?"
0:04:35 to 0:05:00 Another intro/theme song for some reason
5:00 "They shot us with their biggest bullet, cancelled us and we are UNFAZED!!!!!!"
5:50 "They have made martyrs of us, and now is the first time the betas had power over the alphas"
6:30 "They want men to stop being men. Men are not taking it. Men are joining us."
6:40 "We are not bad guys."
6:50 "Feminists want to use "manly men", like us but they shut us up"
7:20 something about charging first before his army and show people who will be cancelled what to do
7:35 YET ANOTHER anime opening
8:30 something about how only sexy ladies watch him
8:40 "We have not asked for anything but now we're calling in the favor" and a revolution is coming
9:30 Under attack by big tech. and demanding everyone record and repost him and grow their follower base
10:10 "Rumble is the only safe place"
10:30 Matthew 7:24-27 and literally comparing moving to rumble to how JESUS portrayed himself
11:50 telling his followers to repost one specific clip and tag them. Also, Tristan is doing martial arts poses
Up to this point they have also been talking on and off about how Big Tech and the matrix hates them.
11:53 addresses the people in Big Tech/the matrix directly. Says he thought he could have an opinion n sheit and that he was on their side. Also, threatens them Navy Seal Copypasta but unironic style
12:40 The clip he wanted you to share. 4th anime opening. Said it'd be 15 seconds. Ends 13:40.
14:07 as above
21:30 about how they banned him because of his anti-government views, NOT because of his help-men-become-alpha shit as stated previously
22:10 They hate him because they are jealous. And if they wanted to protect women they should become like him. And theyre actually the dangerous ones.
22:50 strawman argument about them looking like rapists
24:20 "we permeated the matrix because we had an ad in times square we didnt pay for" (Honestly I'm willing to believe he actually paid for it)
25:10 theyre donating the superchats to a pro-gay charity and they arent homophobic
26:00 "we aren't racist because we're mixed race" (They still look white-ish tho)
26:50 "im gunna start wearing this all the time" *pulls out shirt* The shirt has a picture of him brandishing nunchucks with the caption "AIKIDO" in a stereotypical japanese font (seems to be Ungai. Font nerds, please correct me)
26:55 "they tried to ban me and I aikido'ed them"
27:10 He says he will see who's the real danger to women, him or his critics.
He first targets Ethan from H3H3. He calls him a hypocrite, a misogynist, a terrorist and a racist. He clips him out of context.
Then he targets KSi calling him rapist showing a montage of rape jokes
He cites a strange amount of keemstar content.
Says jake paul (who he cites as a supporter, despite beefing with him before) and himself would beat them in a fight
Targets truejordie, calling him a sexual deviant.
37:00 Says no woman has said she doesn't like what he says
37:40 says the media contacted his ex's. none spoke against him. And they liked him. despite being offered money to lie
38:40 talks about how he is revolutionising social media [again]
40:00 shills his gettr.
40:20 we're fighting the matrix!!!!! (again)
40:50 see 14:07
42:20 continues dunking on truejordie
43:15 targets "daz"? (i think thats how its spelt)
Something about how he wants to be a hero in his videogames or something
44:30 all his critics are liars
44:50 shows daz going on a Nice Guys TM type rant
46:10 "im a nice guy too but I care of myself"
46:50 why women wont date fat people. also daz is deeply hurt. also tristan is willing to coach him or something.
theyre nice guys, because theyre trying to save this kinda guys
talks again about why women wont date him
49:00 "Lets talk about more positive things!" "I'm upgrading my bugati" apparently he's installing a holster for his glock in it
50:30 rant about hypocrites again
51:00 on being unfazed about being cancelled again
51:40 on their critics wanting to rape or something again
51:50 on being immune to being cancelled again
52:20 on how getting cancelled shows you whos loyal
53:20 rumble is JeSuS again. "Move to rumble" again
54:20 once again telling you he's batman. He has changed topics back to his bugatti upgrades
He says he will carry guns on him even in london. Will brutalize anyone who attacks him and argue its reasonable force
56:50 shills gettr again
57:20 "share this video" again
57:40 "everyone likes us" again; "viva le revolution" again
58:20 hes sad he was cancelled, because they claim to care about mens mental health, but theyre hypocrites because they silenced him (again) also he has improved mens lives and marriages(again)
59:50 "there nothing wrong with being a man" again
60:15 they tell him he's right. it's hard to be a man. but he's the problem because he's telling them they need to be strong, when they need to be told they can be weak. apparently this idea is only for women, but women want strong men.
61:00 "im good for mens mental health" again; the matrix wants you depressed again. alleges "they want the slave force depressed" (verbatim)
62:00 "WE ARE NOT CANCELLED PEOPLE ARE WATCHING US" again
62:14 see 14:07 again
63:30 politics fell apart when kings stopped charging into battle; also "share this video" again. shills mailing list and gettr again "the battle has just begun" again
64:20 "only dangerhair feminists criticise me. only hot chicks stick up for me". shows his ex'es sticking up for him. one of them calls him loyal.
"who you gonna believe? my ex or some bitter idiot?"
on how they arent dangerous to women again. on how his ex'es were offered money to lie about him again
on how he was swatted
67:10 on how its racist to say that you can human traffick and rape in romania (as if he himself did not say that) and get away with it. on how it is the most christian place in the world
69:00 shills rumble, gettr etc again, "share this video" again
69:13 the plan
less than 10 seconds later he says he does not know what the plan is
they have spent $500,000+ on a victory party
70:00 on how the message works, again
on how people are flocking to rumble
70:15 theyre going on a boeing 747 private jet to go to croatia where theyll go onto a megayatch and party all week
72:40 "it worked and we're un-cancellable"
ends by telling everyone to share the video again
and an anime opening
0:04:20 to 0:04:35: "what made you think you could stop andrew tate?"
0:04:35 to 0:05:00 Another intro/theme song for some reason
5:00 "They shot us with their biggest bullet, cancelled us and we are UNFAZED!!!!!!"
5:50 "They have made martyrs of us, and now is the first time the betas had power over the alphas"
6:30 "They want men to stop being men. Men are not taking it. Men are joining us."
6:40 "We are not bad guys."
6:50 "Feminists want to use "manly men", like us but they shut us up"
7:20 something about charging first before his army and show people who will be cancelled what to do
7:35 YET ANOTHER anime opening
8:30 something about how only sexy ladies watch him
8:40 "We have not asked for anything but now we're calling in the favor" and a revolution is coming
9:30 Under attack by big tech. and demanding everyone record and repost him and grow their follower base
10:10 "Rumble is the only safe place"
10:30 Matthew 7:24-27 and literally comparing moving to rumble to how JESUS portrayed himself
11:50 telling his followers to repost one specific clip and tag them. Also, Tristan is doing martial arts poses
Up to this point they have also been talking on and off about how Big Tech and the matrix hates them.
11:53 addresses the people in Big Tech/the matrix directly. Says he thought he could have an opinion n sheit and that he was on their side. Also, threatens them Navy Seal Copypasta but unironic style
12:40 The clip he wanted you to share. 4th anime opening. Said it'd be 15 seconds. Ends 13:40.
14:07 as above
15:07 About how social media wants to cancel him again and how they think you're dumb
16:20 Cancellation will fail. He claims they couldve told him to tone down and he'd listen.
17:00 Tells people to keep watching him
17:50 He wants other PUA/Alpha male coaches to join him on rumble
18:30 They screwed up big time, everyone loves him, he was lied about, and nobody believes it. Some ridiculous bullshit about how every post you make supporting him makes a meta employee cry or something
16:20 Cancellation will fail. He claims they couldve told him to tone down and he'd listen.
17:00 Tells people to keep watching him
17:50 He wants other PUA/Alpha male coaches to join him on rumble
18:30 They screwed up big time, everyone loves him, he was lied about, and nobody believes it. Some ridiculous bullshit about how every post you make supporting him makes a meta employee cry or something
21:30 about how they banned him because of his anti-government views, NOT because of his help-men-become-alpha shit as stated previously
22:10 They hate him because they are jealous. And if they wanted to protect women they should become like him. And theyre actually the dangerous ones.
22:50 strawman argument about them looking like rapists
24:20 "we permeated the matrix because we had an ad in times square we didnt pay for" (Honestly I'm willing to believe he actually paid for it)
25:10 theyre donating the superchats to a pro-gay charity and they arent homophobic
26:00 "we aren't racist because we're mixed race" (They still look white-ish tho)
26:50 "im gunna start wearing this all the time" *pulls out shirt* The shirt has a picture of him brandishing nunchucks with the caption "AIKIDO" in a stereotypical japanese font (seems to be Ungai. Font nerds, please correct me)
26:55 "they tried to ban me and I aikido'ed them"
27:10 He says he will see who's the real danger to women, him or his critics.
He first targets Ethan from H3H3. He calls him a hypocrite, a misogynist, a terrorist and a racist. He clips him out of context.
Then he targets KSi calling him rapist showing a montage of rape jokes
He cites a strange amount of keemstar content.
Says jake paul (who he cites as a supporter, despite beefing with him before) and himself would beat them in a fight
Targets truejordie, calling him a sexual deviant.
37:00 Says no woman has said she doesn't like what he says
37:40 says the media contacted his ex's. none spoke against him. And they liked him. despite being offered money to lie
38:40 talks about how he is revolutionising social media [again]
40:00 shills his gettr.
40:20 we're fighting the matrix!!!!! (again)
40:50 see 14:07
42:20 continues dunking on truejordie
43:15 targets "daz"? (i think thats how its spelt)
Something about how he wants to be a hero in his videogames or something
44:30 all his critics are liars
44:50 shows daz going on a Nice Guys TM type rant
46:10 "im a nice guy too but I care of myself"
46:50 why women wont date fat people. also daz is deeply hurt. also tristan is willing to coach him or something.
theyre nice guys, because theyre trying to save this kinda guys
talks again about why women wont date him
49:00 "Lets talk about more positive things!" "I'm upgrading my bugati" apparently he's installing a holster for his glock in it
50:30 rant about hypocrites again
51:00 on being unfazed about being cancelled again
51:40 on their critics wanting to rape or something again
51:50 on being immune to being cancelled again
52:20 on how getting cancelled shows you whos loyal
53:20 rumble is JeSuS again. "Move to rumble" again
54:20 once again telling you he's batman. He has changed topics back to his bugatti upgrades
He says he will carry guns on him even in london. Will brutalize anyone who attacks him and argue its reasonable force
56:50 shills gettr again
57:20 "share this video" again
57:40 "everyone likes us" again; "viva le revolution" again
58:20 hes sad he was cancelled, because they claim to care about mens mental health, but theyre hypocrites because they silenced him (again) also he has improved mens lives and marriages(again)
59:50 "there nothing wrong with being a man" again
60:15 they tell him he's right. it's hard to be a man. but he's the problem because he's telling them they need to be strong, when they need to be told they can be weak. apparently this idea is only for women, but women want strong men.
61:00 "im good for mens mental health" again; the matrix wants you depressed again. alleges "they want the slave force depressed" (verbatim)
62:00 "WE ARE NOT CANCELLED PEOPLE ARE WATCHING US" again
62:14 see 14:07 again
63:30 politics fell apart when kings stopped charging into battle; also "share this video" again. shills mailing list and gettr again "the battle has just begun" again
64:20 "only dangerhair feminists criticise me. only hot chicks stick up for me". shows his ex'es sticking up for him. one of them calls him loyal.
"who you gonna believe? my ex or some bitter idiot?"
on how they arent dangerous to women again. on how his ex'es were offered money to lie about him again
on how he was swatted
67:10 on how its racist to say that you can human traffick and rape in romania (as if he himself did not say that) and get away with it. on how it is the most christian place in the world
69:00 shills rumble, gettr etc again, "share this video" again
69:13 the plan
less than 10 seconds later he says he does not know what the plan is
they have spent $500,000+ on a victory party
70:00 on how the message works, again
on how people are flocking to rumble
70:15 theyre going on a boeing 747 private jet to go to croatia where theyll go onto a megayatch and party all week
72:40 "it worked and we're un-cancellable"
ends by telling everyone to share the video again
and an anime opening
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The opening song is Tourner dans le vide by Indila. Here's a video with the English translation. Indila has a nice voice, insipid overly cheesy lyrics and a face that belongs to a female monkey.
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I'm prepared to believe he planned on discontinuing the affiliate marketing promotional gambit that made him viral. That kind of thing simply isn't sustainable anyway. However, he surely didn't intend on being banished from the digital equivalent of polite society. You can see that he's trying quite hard on Rumble to sustain some kind of momentum and hype, but that sort of thing generally doesn't last either.
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If I ever see this guy I’ll internet tough guy him so hard.
If my kid ever spouts his shit I’ll beat his fucking ass.
What’s with these groomers there everywhere!
If my kid ever spouts his shit I’ll beat his fucking ass.
What’s with these groomers there everywhere!
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Look at people like him as entertainment, on some hand he does have a point but many of the people in the so called Manosphere don't want to help men, but rather use them to build a following to get rich of them and Tate ain't any different with Hustlers University.
Tate also (may have) fatally underestimated the power of weaponized autism because once people here on KF notice him he's gonna have a shitload of his history recorded regardless if he's banned or not and considering how much his reputation has grown and how much of a loudmouth he is, this was bound to happen and he might even end up as one of the biggest lolcows on the internet if he's not careful. Because once serious shit sticks, he is gonna wish he didn't use social media in his life.
Tate also (may have) fatally underestimated the power of weaponized autism because once people here on KF notice him he's gonna have a shitload of his history recorded regardless if he's banned or not and considering how much his reputation has grown and how much of a loudmouth he is, this was bound to happen and he might even end up as one of the biggest lolcows on the internet if he's not careful. Because once serious shit sticks, he is gonna wish he didn't use social media in his life.
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The way I see it, he can't afford to (or at least is very unwilling) give up mainstream social media (IG, YouTube, twitter and such) or at least a significant following SOMEWHERE.
It's gotta count for some money, with all the Hustlers Uni signups and such and while he does have other sources of income (we do not know how much he gets from each source, but I would reckon he won't starve without Rumble though) i wouldnt expect anyone to just let a chunk of it just go gentle into that good night.
Not to mention its his only way to influence people. It's probably his main way to spew his Jaden Smith Philosophy™. That and simply having followers (not just in the social media sense, but also the sense of a student) is probably an ego boost.
He fears irrelevance. He is fighting it.
It's gotta count for some money, with all the Hustlers Uni signups and such and while he does have other sources of income (we do not know how much he gets from each source, but I would reckon he won't starve without Rumble though) i wouldnt expect anyone to just let a chunk of it just go gentle into that good night.
Not to mention its his only way to influence people. It's probably his main way to spew his Jaden Smith Philosophy™. That and simply having followers (not just in the social media sense, but also the sense of a student) is probably an ego boost.
He fears irrelevance. He is fighting it.
I have been following this guy since around 2017. A little bit before The Red Pill/manosphere adopted him which was also around 2017. Ironically I found The Red Pill around 8 years ago even before I found Andrew Tate. It was funny seeing these two worlds come together. Throughout the years there has been some infighting in this group.
I found Tate through Twitter where he was pushing a lot of peoples buttons. Back then he got his account deleted a few times if I recall correctly. He was hilarious. Still is, but back then it was more playful in my opinion. Now what he has been saying has been with a more serious tone behind it. Perhaps this is why people went nuts on him. A lot of normies first reaction to men like this is to become intimidated. When he used the playful tone it was more easily to digest.
He still has some of that playfulness but it has become more "straight in your face".
As far as I know he is quite a normal guy in the sense that he is not some rapist/human trafficker/etc. He is intelligent and combined with his warrior spirit (from fighting and perhaps his father) that can be a strong combination. His stuff inspired me a lot back then actually and I never paid him a dime. His mindset is good for a man. The stuff he says is pretty much Red Pill 101 but you can tell he had a lot of experience. He was a "natural red piller" not some guy who learned theory from the reddit.
I followed a lot of "red pill guru's" and this guy is the closest to "the real deal". A lot of red pill guru's were simply nerds LARPing behind their keyboard giving advice to young guys. This guy at least has some archievements and real life experience.
The only problem he has is he will be misunderstood since he comes from a level that a lot of people are not used to. A lot of people take his stuff and become some type of charicature crazy mofo. The same thing happens with red pill knowledge. Some autists will use the information and completely misunderstand the core information. But those who get it, I think it is helpful fo rthem.
He was a bit different 5 years ago. His outward persona changed a bit in the last 5 years. It's like he transformed into a different person. Like I said he used more humor 5 years ago. It was more calibrated. I think his message weakened a little bit over the years or at least dumbed down. Perhaps because he has become filthy rich in the mean time.
About his business. It seems to me he uses the same business model that got him rich in the first place. Use men's desires/wishes to take money from them. At first he did it through webcam (men's desire for women/love/sex) and now he does it through success porn (men's desire to succeed to eventually get more pussy). I am not 100% sure about this because I did not join HU or the War Room. This is just from observation.
This is the same model a lot of grifters in the red pill sphere used for years.
I love the fact that his influence causes little kids to become Mini-Tates, not going to lie. That is glorious.
I remember when I was a kid I would also emulate "masculine men" and masculine cultures like aggressive music, hip hop, action/TV heroes, etc.
Femcentric Western societies hate it. And the majority society will try to beat it out of you before you turn 21. Majority of those kids will probably "grow up" (AKA be neutered) by the age of 25 but at least now they are wilding out. The neutering process is "betaization by a thousand concessions". It is slow. You will be punished by every "rule" (whether law, social rules, etc.) you break until you lose the energy to break the rules.
I see it with my friends as well. A lot of my friends were masculine at late teens-early twenties. Now they are older and completely cucked. Lost all masculine spirit. Society, people around you and the Western culture will beat it out of you if you let it.
Majority of women are the ones who control the "culture" now. That's no hate. For society to exist men need to stop a lot of their violent and masculine tendencies. Women thrive in those environments. Because without violence, straight-forwardness, honesty, etc. you get more in the playing field of women (gossip, backstabbing, social skills, language, etc.).
I found Tate through Twitter where he was pushing a lot of peoples buttons. Back then he got his account deleted a few times if I recall correctly. He was hilarious. Still is, but back then it was more playful in my opinion. Now what he has been saying has been with a more serious tone behind it. Perhaps this is why people went nuts on him. A lot of normies first reaction to men like this is to become intimidated. When he used the playful tone it was more easily to digest.
He still has some of that playfulness but it has become more "straight in your face".
As far as I know he is quite a normal guy in the sense that he is not some rapist/human trafficker/etc. He is intelligent and combined with his warrior spirit (from fighting and perhaps his father) that can be a strong combination. His stuff inspired me a lot back then actually and I never paid him a dime. His mindset is good for a man. The stuff he says is pretty much Red Pill 101 but you can tell he had a lot of experience. He was a "natural red piller" not some guy who learned theory from the reddit.
I followed a lot of "red pill guru's" and this guy is the closest to "the real deal". A lot of red pill guru's were simply nerds LARPing behind their keyboard giving advice to young guys. This guy at least has some archievements and real life experience.
The only problem he has is he will be misunderstood since he comes from a level that a lot of people are not used to. A lot of people take his stuff and become some type of charicature crazy mofo. The same thing happens with red pill knowledge. Some autists will use the information and completely misunderstand the core information. But those who get it, I think it is helpful fo rthem.
He was a bit different 5 years ago. His outward persona changed a bit in the last 5 years. It's like he transformed into a different person. Like I said he used more humor 5 years ago. It was more calibrated. I think his message weakened a little bit over the years or at least dumbed down. Perhaps because he has become filthy rich in the mean time.
About his business. It seems to me he uses the same business model that got him rich in the first place. Use men's desires/wishes to take money from them. At first he did it through webcam (men's desire for women/love/sex) and now he does it through success porn (men's desire to succeed to eventually get more pussy). I am not 100% sure about this because I did not join HU or the War Room. This is just from observation.
This is the same model a lot of grifters in the red pill sphere used for years.
I love the fact that his influence causes little kids to become Mini-Tates, not going to lie. That is glorious.
I remember when I was a kid I would also emulate "masculine men" and masculine cultures like aggressive music, hip hop, action/TV heroes, etc.
Femcentric Western societies hate it. And the majority society will try to beat it out of you before you turn 21. Majority of those kids will probably "grow up" (AKA be neutered) by the age of 25 but at least now they are wilding out. The neutering process is "betaization by a thousand concessions". It is slow. You will be punished by every "rule" (whether law, social rules, etc.) you break until you lose the energy to break the rules.
I see it with my friends as well. A lot of my friends were masculine at late teens-early twenties. Now they are older and completely cucked. Lost all masculine spirit. Society, people around you and the Western culture will beat it out of you if you let it.
Majority of women are the ones who control the "culture" now. That's no hate. For society to exist men need to stop a lot of their violent and masculine tendencies. Women thrive in those environments. Because without violence, straight-forwardness, honesty, etc. you get more in the playing field of women (gossip, backstabbing, social skills, language, etc.).
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As much as I disagree with Andrew Tate, kids saying all his retarded shit to teachers trying to teach them about drag queens and proper condom usage at the age of 10 is funny as fuck to me .
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If you don't mind me asking: How do you reconcile this with him being a role model? It would seem, to me, that someone who actively preys on people's desires shouldn't be trusted for advice. As you've pointed out, he has no qualms about turning men into cucks/simps where it suits him.
I still think this guy is the closest thing to a masculine role model there is right now. I mean kids listen to depressed/suicidal people for advice now. Some random YouTuber who makes MineCraft videos for example. Someone who never really lived life.
The best thing is to have a father that teaches you basic masculinity (simply said: not being a little bitch). But in this culture even a lot of fathers are cucks and don't teach their sons anything.
Then those kids go to school which is often female cultured and then you are fucked and you feel emasculated. Even as a little boy.
This guy actually lives life and has lived life. From those type of people you can often learn. He's not perfect but some of his information/stories are good to learn from.
From my experience most role models have some sort of imperfection or even paradox. That does not mean they are not valuable or that you should disregard the person.
If you see older footage of him he is just a normal guy who values masculine traits and pushes back against the whole "it's okay to be a bitch" narrative that is popular on the Internet and somewhat in real life (way less). He has the typical fighter/winner mindset. A lot of people in fighting gyms are like him. Combine it with a zest of intelligence and you get Andrew Tate.
The craziest thing he did is letting his girlfriends shake their tits in front of a camera for money. It happens all the time now with OnlyFans. Nobody goes after them.
A good amount of stuff he said my father taught me. Especially with depression/being a whiney bitch/being a winner. Often doing sports/teamsports will teach those basics. Now even that is controversial. That's crazy.
Also you don't have to watch his girls' tits on a porn website and you don't have to buy his stuff. It's a choice. Nobody is forced to do it. Yet you can still learn from some of his videos.
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...I don't think those are the things that are controversial about him.
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Bruh theres literally thousands if not millions of men who have lived life, arent little bitches, are winners (not necessarily as big winners as Mr Tate, but have ambition and seen some success, and arent losers by any rate), are reasonably intelligent
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don't prey on men's desires to the same degree, arent grifters (not to the same egregious extent) and have basic respect for women.
Sure, many men are betas. Sure, the influences on kids these days aren't all wholesome and good. Sure, they might not even have a dad or a good one.
They should find any other man to look up to with the qualities I have described above.
There is no shortage.
Nobody's faults excuse anybody's faults.
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don't prey on men's desires to the same degree, arent grifters (not to the same egregious extent) and have basic respect for women.
Sure, many men are betas. Sure, the influences on kids these days aren't all wholesome and good. Sure, they might not even have a dad or a good one.
They should find any other man to look up to with the qualities I have described above.
There is no shortage.
Nobody's faults excuse anybody's faults.
What do you mean? What is controversial then? That you should get paid if your girlfriend goes on OnlyFans? I can't think of other stuff.
The human trafficking was not true. He is not even being investigated for it anymore.
Plus remember some of the stuff he makes it thicker or makes a semi-joke out of it to bait the normies into getting mad at him. It's basic trolling.
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Tate sells the same flavor of bullshit a whole conga line Manosphere grifters have sold for well over a decade, the only thing that sets him apart is that he used algo-curated virality to find marks for his schemes and that he outright flaunts his connections to organized crime.