Andrew Torba / Gab (Gab.com / Gab.ai) / Dissenter (dissenter.com) - An incompetent captain sinking millions of other people's dollars.

What are the odds he starts banning people for blaspheming (((Jesus))) in the future LOL?
More than zero.
Once again Torba is out of touch with his User Base. Torba your User Base is at least 30% Pagan, whom despise Christianity.
I'm pretty sure that Torba's views of anti Christians are the type where he lives in a secular society or people are working to make a land where the state reigns supreme.
This is why I believe all alt-tech platforms will eventually fail. Not because of the "NEO-LIBERAL FAR LEFT PROGRESSIVES TAKING DOWN PLATFORMS THEY DISAGREE WITH" (which they do in all honesty) but because they only serve a niche crowed of people who only in the moment want to feel like they are sticking it to the big bullies. This niche is incapable of generating non-repetitive content that people would find enjoyable enough to spend more than five minutes in a place that was purely made to spite its big tech counter part. My favorite example of this is Bitchute, an alt-tech site that I do actually like. The kind of repetitive content you will find on Bitchute when first coming on to it is going to be one of many things.

1) 9001 videos with the same talking points about politics and current day events
2) Spergs spouting nonsense into the mic about how Hitler was actually a dindu nuffin muffin/ Qanon/ flat earth conspiracies/ Jews/ taking conspiracies too seriously in general/ and the list goes on.
3) Back up of videos that are already on YouTube where they can be viewed in a much better quality and have a more user friendly experience then its alt-tech counterpart. So, why would you ever bother watching it on BitChute anyways? This is usually done by people who bitch about how YouTube is censoring everything but won't make a stance by committing to using another platform because they risk losing a large portion of their audience and thus can't shill for more Patreon money. Either nut the fuck up or shut the fuck up. You can't claim you're fighting the system if you're using the fucking system.
4) Back up of videos that are already on YouTube but are uncensored. (An acceptable use of bitchute)
5) Back up of videos that were on Youtube but was deleted for being to spicy. (Also acceptable)
6) And the rarest of all, actually unique content that is exclusive to Bitchute but you have to spend hours sifting through the repetitive nonsense before you find something or, be already privy to its existence from an external source. (Usually being YouTube ironically)

What this niche crowd doesn't get is that they have to be more then just about crack pot conspiracies and how mainstream website treats them unfairly. This may be a surprise to some but Twitter isn't just about retarded politics. People go to Twitter because they can interact with their favorite content creators or e-celebrities and have fun with like minded people. No one wants to go to Gab or BitChute to get ass blasted with a bunch of whiners and repetitive nonsense.
Sometimes the bad guys do win.
 
definitely is, I remember him coming on the dick show when gab first came out and he didnt say anything like that, he was all about free speech.

I think he realised pretty quick theres a lot of money to made from god botherers
He's using spite marketing to piss off people and make them talk about his platform. He doesn't care about God botherers either.
 
Something of interest for anyone who cares enough about legalese. Gab's privacy policy is actually pretty fucking abhorrent. I already made a post about it on the KF fedi node, but I'll repost it here for the sake of making sure as many eyes are aware of this as possible. At a tl;dr level:
  1. They reserve the right to disclose any and all information about their users, without restriction to subsidiaries, affiliates, contractors, service providers, and any other third parties.
  2. If Gab is ever merged, divested, restructured, reorganised, or what have you, all of your data is treated as an asset and will be transferred to the party purchasing Gab.
  3. Gab uses automatic data collection that includes (but is not limited to): equipment, browsing habits, usage patterns, traffic data, logs, communications data, and the resources used to access the website along with information about your computer and internet connection (i.e. IP address, OS, browser type, etc)
  4. They reserve the right to change the policy or deviate from it at any time with or without notice to their end users.
Torba neglected to mention that when he wanted to make a Twitter alternative, he wanted it to be exactly like Twitter right down to the shitty terms of service.
 
Instead of boiling the frog the collective has cranked the heat way to fast and normies are becoming aware of their shrinking ability to freely think.
Normalfags wont do shit, they cant be bothered to move to brave and you expect them to move all their social media over to other less-retard-friendly systems? Theres a reason why for many people "the internet" is facebook+its subsidiaries like IG and whatsapp
Fediverse is a mess to navigate. It's a nice idea but it isn't refined enough yet. It reminds me a lot of IRC when compared to Discord. IRC is great but you need to know how to navigate it to get anything of value. Discord you click a link and you're immediately presented with the content you wanted. I hope to see Fediverse grow and become more user friendly.
Good, that keeps the tard-raff out, remember eternal september
It's how you verify.

It's also why you should never use gab.
So like blue checkmarks? or you cant make a user there without verifying? that would be very retarded
Maybe the silver lining will be people realising the importance of privacy on how to conduct themselves online, now they get fucked over, but in the long run they may change their habbits and make it harder for megacorps to fuck everyone over.
No they wont, normalfags didnt like the old internet because everybody was anon with a nickname at best, they flocked to places like facebook because there everybody uses their IRL names and like zucc said "they trust me dumb fucks". There have been several doxings of alt-right people that ended in suicide and they keep doing this shit.
If they can’t draw in normie users (for lack of a better term), the extent of their cultural influence will always be pathetic by comparison. Imo there has to be a reason for someone who doesn’t give a shit about restrictive content policies or free speech to use an alt service over the existing platforms. that’s the biggest challenge.
You think more people=more power? nonsense, its better to have a core of very valuable users than a bunch of slackers who just lurk around. Consider the current far-left power on the internet was build not off popularity since very few people agreed with their insane bullshit, but by running invite-only networks of people in the right places like academia, media, journalism and politics. This was plain obvious during gamergate when most gamers were against SJWs but the latter much smaller group had friends in universities, news corporations and even internet companies. One call to a user who is an employee at twitter and a bunch of accounts got permabanned. All the journos on those far-left networks coordinated hit pieces against the movement, it was so fucking obvious but the normies ate that shit regardless. The ones in academia and politics got the decision makers, basically everyone who matters, to listen only to them.

The exact same shit happened again at a much bigger scale during the blm riots, and you saw the result. A bunch of normies cant do shit but march on the streets then they get bored and go back to ranting online and watching netflix even though the later is practically a propaganda arm of the left now, they cant even be arsed to stop giving these SJW-influenced corporations more money because they are too lazy to even torrent this shit. This kind of people is useless, period.
I always hated that fat megaupload guy because he incited people to steal things and then put it on his platform.
He is/was as scummy as you can get.
That fat fuck still around? havent heard anything since he lost mega nz to his investors
Null this is your chance to rake it in, just make a new gab node yourself
 
No they wont, normalfags didnt like the old internet because everybody was anon with a nickname at best, they flocked to places like facebook because there everybody uses their IRL names and like zucc said "they trust me dumb fucks". There have been several doxings of alt-right people that ended in suicide and they keep doing this shit.

You think more people=more power? nonsense, its better to have a core of very valuable users than a bunch of slackers who just lurk around. Consider the current far-left power on the internet was build not off popularity since very few people agreed with their insane bullshit, but by running invite-only networks of people in the right places like academia, media, journalism and politics. This was plain obvious during gamergate when most gamers were against SJWs but the latter much smaller group had friends in universities, news corporations and even internet companies. One call to a user who is an employee at twitter and a bunch of accounts got permabanned. All the journos on those far-left networks coordinated hit pieces against the movement, it was so fucking obvious but the normies ate that shit regardless. The ones in academia and politics got the decision makers, basically everyone who matters, to listen only to them.
Normies can go fuck themselves, they aren't even the type of people on gab. Normie politics is liberal politics, becuase normie politics is controlled by the media.
I hope more things move to a more anonymous system and things go back the way they were, not just in terms of anonymity, but forums. I miss forums and I will never forgive reddit for killing them and replacing them with echochambers. (Yes I know I'm saying this on a forum, but lots of fun forums died over the years).

You give them too much credit. The long march through the institutions has been going on since before we were even born. The internet power was just a continuation of that.
 
Something of interest for anyone who cares enough about legalese. Gab's privacy policy is actually pretty fucking abhorrent. I already made a post about it on the KF fedi node, but I'll repost it here for the sake of making sure as many eyes are aware of this as possible. At a tl;dr level:
  1. They reserve the right to disclose any and all information about their users, without restriction to subsidiaries, affiliates, contractors, service providers, and any other third parties.
  2. If Gab is ever merged, divested, restructured, reorganised, or what have you, all of your data is treated as an asset and will be transferred to the party purchasing Gab.
  3. Gab uses automatic data collection that includes (but is not limited to): equipment, browsing habits, usage patterns, traffic data, logs, communications data, and the resources used to access the website along with information about your computer and internet connection (i.e. IP address, OS, browser type, etc)
  4. They reserve the right to change the policy or deviate from it at any time with or without notice to their end users.
Torba neglected to mention that when he wanted to make a Twitter alternative, he wanted it to be exactly like Twitter right down to the shitty terms of service.
Another great reason to avoid using their browser, and the dissentor comment system in general.
 
Normies can go fuck themselves, they aren't even the type of people on gab. Normie politics is liberal politics, becuase normie politics is controlled by the media.
I hope more things move to a more anonymous system and things go back the way they were, not just in terms of anonymity, but forums. I miss forums and I will never forgive reddit for killing them and replacing them with echochambers. (Yes I know I'm saying this on a forum, but lots of fun forums died over the years).

You give them too much credit. The long march through the institutions has been going on since before we were even born. The internet power was just a continuation of that.
I too miss forums but the real killer there was facebook groups, a lot of forums I knew moved there and the quality took a nosedive.

And yeah I know about "the march through the institutions" but the internet gave them unprecedented levels of coordination. Before that they used to fuck up a lot, being coped up in their echo chambers on top of ivory towers of academia meant they were disconnected from the general public and lacked the means the manipulate them. They were even late to the internet because they didnt understand it. Many of their techniques they learned from being raided by SA goons and 4chan during the early and mid 00s. By the late 00s they were consolidating their strength which is also when the internet began to suck.

Consider that during both GG and the blm riots most of the lefties involved were too young to be part of the original march through the institutions which was a boomer thing. Most boomers lefties of old became neolibs after the fall of the USSR marked the end of the 20th century far-left, mostly because they wanted to keep their careers. The new far-left is almost exclusively a gen X-millenial thing with zoomers just joining in, their march through the institutions has been completely different since many of them were recruited when already inside said institutions, see silicon valley troons for example.
 
Fediverse is a mess to navigate.
It really isn't and the only way you can say this is if you haven't used it.

Gab's is better though, they took Mastodon's discovery tools and improved on them. Which, is kind of how you know the Fediverse was already good at it, it was easily adaptable for Gab even after they stopped federating. They didn't start from scratch they just tweaked it.
 
I too miss forums but the real killer there was facebook groups, a lot of forums I knew moved there and the quality took a nosedive.

And yeah I know about "the march through the institutions" but the internet gave them unprecedented levels of coordination. Before that they used to fuck up a lot, being coped up in their echo chambers on top of ivory towers of academia meant they were disconnected from the general public and lacked the means the manipulate them. They were even late to the internet because they didnt understand it. Many of their techniques they learned from being raided by SA goons and 4chan during the early and mid 00s. By the late 00s they were consolidating their strength which is also when the internet began to suck.

Consider that during both GG and the blm riots most of the lefties involved were too young to be part of the original march through the institutions which was a boomer thing. Most boomers lefties of old became neolibs after the fall of the USSR marked the end of the 20th century far-left, mostly because they wanted to keep their careers. The new far-left is almost exclusively a gen X-millenial thing with zoomers just joining in, their march through the institutions has been completely different since many of them were recruited when already inside said institutions, see silicon valley troons for example.
Goons became the social justice fucktards. Remember Zoe Quinn? She was balls deep into SA stuff and used all the same tactics they did. SA didn't teach them anything, they were SA.

The new left is college educated kids who got indoctrinated in college then joined up to the tech giants. They had to take brain washing classes with their computer science degrees and sexual harassment laws from the 90s were used as the stick to their carrot.

It really isn't and the only way you can say this is if you haven't used it.

Gab's is better though, they took Mastodon's discovery tools and improved on them. Which, is kind of how you know the Fediverse was already good at it, it was easily adaptable for Gab even after they stopped federating. They didn't start from scratch they just tweaked it.
I have 2 fediverse sites open now. They're like a twitter feed where you follow everyone from 20 different websites in 5 different languages. If you go for a piss you find 400 new messages and 399 of them are shit posting. Peertube was good but lacked original content. I will be using that more in the future but fuck the twitter clone stuff.
 
Torbo bullied a Christian credit union into locking their Twitter account because they dropped them.

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Which, is hilarious and all because fuck banks. But also, what the fuck is he thinking? Nigga just burns bridges for fun.
 
It's an American business though, marketed toward Conservative Americans. They won't pay the fines and no one will care.
Even Google ended up paying out billions in fines to France because they thought the same thing; Why? Because despite being an American company it still offered services to Europeans, making them automatically liable for GDPR violations. Of course, I fully expect Torba to do what you say and get further assfucked for this (it is even more funny because he could have just blocked European users and avoided this whole potential problem).
 
Even Google ended up paying out billions in fines to France because they thought the same thing; Why? Because despite being an American company it still offered services to Europeans, making them automatically liable for GDPR violations. Of course, I fully expect Torba to do what you say and get further assfucked for this (it is even more funny because he could have just blocked European users and avoided this whole potential problem).
So worst case, they can block Gab in the EU. No one there uses it, so no one will care and it's fodder for marketing in the US, where their base is.

It's really not an issue. They don't even maintain the site in multiple languages, they're not trying for foreign markets.
 
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