Anti-Vax Movement

[Ahffline]

It's like they don't get that death unites us all. It unites race, class, national origin and any other status you want to claim makes you inferior or superior to anyone else. We all die. Even the powerful, even the mighty. But, their pride seems to blind them to that fact.

I think it also has to do with how much time has past since we've eradicated the scourge of certain diseases from our countries. They're no longer things to terrify us. They're simply words. The majority of us probably have never known anyone who contracted polio or smallpox. Throw in a good dose of conspiracy theory with celebrity endorsements, and a dangerous bubble of ignorance is formed.

Rex Murphy is a Canadian commentator who does opinion pieces for The National Post newspaper and CBC News. He put it very well:

 

[XYZpdq]

So when do we get to the lol part?

 

[Peter Capaldi]

So if their kid does die, they practically accept that their "loving" god just killed their kid?
Well, that's fucking healthy thinking right there. [tinfoilcap]No, ofcourse vaccines will kill us all. All what science brings will kill us all! [/tinfoilcap]

 

[Whatisgoingon]

Like many others have stated in this thread, these people really piss me off. Not only has the vaccine/autism link been disproved, even if it was true getting autism is better than death or horrible pain the rest of your life. I have autism, it can be worked around in many cases where I encounter problems, and even in the times where I can't work around it I wouldn't rather have polio or measles ect.! These people infuriate me to no end.

 

[Randall Fragg]

https://archive.today/43kBv

So, Mr. Hoenig's argument seems to hing on the idea that the government is infringing on his right to not vaccinate his kids.
However, his right to not vaccinate his kids infringes on other groups right to not die.
So, let's play with his logic a little bit and see where the slippery slope argument takes us.
The idea that you have a right to infringe on other people's rights violates several parts of the constitution (notably the 13th amendment). So, under Hoenigs reasoning, I should be able to own slaves.
Sure, it's infringing on other's rights, but if they wanted those rights they would just stop being a slave. They'd just have to outrun the armed guards patrolling my heroin plantation.

Oh yeah, I have a religious right to grow, consume, sell, and distribute heroin. If the government takes that away, soon they'll be taking away all private agriculture and rounding us up onto collective farms. Also, the government can't take away my heroin, interfere with my business, or stop me from selling to kids. Now, some people might object to selling heroin to kids. But hey, with all that Big Gubment D.A.R.E education, any kids I sell heroin to must be total morons, and thus deserve to die.

 

[IwegalBadnik]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/forme...ccinations_b_6630728.html?utm_hp_ref=homepage

Commenters found anti-vaxxers in their midst. Surprise, surprise folks. Did you know vaccines are tantamount to Russian roulette?

 

[Bluce Wee]

Good to see he never let go of the lie nor take responsibility for the disaster he started.

Ugh, the comments on that article make me angry.

 

[Falcon Lord]

I hope Wakefield dies of measles.

 

[Marvin]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/forme...ccinations_b_6630728.html?utm_hp_ref=homepage

Commenters found anti-vaxxers in their midst. Surprise, surprise folks. Did you know vaccines are tantamount to Russian roulette?

I loved the article and I forgot about why I clicked on the link in the first place.

And then I read the comments

 

[IwegalBadnik]

I loved the article and I forgot about why I clicked on the link in the first place.

And then I read the comments

Comments like many there are why we can't have nice things.

 

[Bluce Wee]

I hope Wakefield dies of measles.

That's the sad part: he won't, because he was likely vaccinated. He'll just kill or harm kids to come.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Instead of convincing anti-vaxxers, scientists should just concentrate on developing 100% allergy -free vaccines that can be given right after birth or pre-natal if possible. Everybody wins. Anti-vaxxers get to watch their children die, and we are protected and get a vastly improved gene pool without their DNA in it.

Joking about the second part of course, even though it's tempting.

 

[AnOminous]

Instead of convincing anti-vaxxers, scientists should just concentrate on developing 100% allergy -free vaccines that can be given right after birth or pre-natal if possible.

This.

These literal mental retards can freak out all they like.

Sane people and their children get vaccinated, idiots die.

Hoo-raw.

 

[Mrs Paul]

As someone that's buried a child all I can say is I'd rather have an autistic child over a body in a box any day....

I'm so so, sorry. Fuck these people.

The lining is just the most awkward thing I've ever seen.

In the Goodbye Grandma one I get the feeling that oddly rendered sparrow is supposed to represent the dead grandma and it just... creeps the fuck out of me.

Spoiler

The vaccine killed her.

 

[For The Internet]

It's so good to find other people who get as pissed off with this anti-vax crap as I do, because I'm a pretty laid-back person and this is one of the few things that really, really make me rage.

The amount of selfishness in those comments is staggering. The logical fallacy. The willful ignorance about science. The 'muh rights!' entitlement.

The argument that if you enforce vaccinations it's a slippery slope towards nazisim and total goverment control is made utterly redundant by the fact it already is enforced in many places, including the US itself, so obviously it hasn't led to the end of democracy.

Incidentally, I am wholly unsurprised by the 'forced vaccinations = forced abortion' thing, because so often anti-vaxxers are rabid anti-choicers, and they don't restrict their WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? to just one topic, although their concern for children themselves usually doesn't extend beyond their own offspring.

 

[Vitriol]

Incidentally, I am wholly unsurprised by the 'forced vaccinations = forced abortion' thing, because so often anti-vaxxers are rabid anti-choicers, and they don't restrict their WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? to just one topic, although their concern for children themselves usually doesn't extend beyond their own offspring.

broadly speaking i agree with you, however while a lot are pro-life plenty are pro-choice running the 'its my choice' argument. Parts of LA have vaccination rates comparable to sudan- and its not the poor parts.


http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...tion-rates-are-as-low-as-south-sudans/380252/

 

[Foxkittykin]

The amount of selfishness in those comments is staggering. The logical fallacy. The willful ignorance about science. The 'muh rights!' entitlement.

The argument that if you enforce vaccinations it's a slippery slope towards nazisim and total goverment control is made utterly redundant by the fact it already is enforced in many places, including the US itself, so obviously it hasn't led to the end of democracy.

Incidentally, I am wholly unsurprised by the 'forced vaccinations = forced abortion' thing, because so often anti-vaxxers are rabid anti-choicers, and they don't restrict their WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? to just one topic, although their concern for children themselves usually doesn't extend beyond their own offspring.

Oh, I'm all for choice.
It's like car insurance. If you don't want to get it, then hey, you can't use public roads.

You don't want to vaccinate your kids? Fine. You don't get to use public school or state licenced care. You can homeschool your little diseased spawn where they can get all the preventable diseases your heart desires for them.

 

[Peter Capaldi]

This.

These literal mental retards can freak out all they like.

Sane people and their children get vaccinated, idiots die.

Hoo-raw.

Except that the parents don't die, the kids do. The kids never got to choose what parents they got.

 

[Loke]

I love how basic public health has become totalitarianism. If this jumps to an adult population, I might fucking leave the country. How do people just not trust science?
Edit: Whenever this comes up, my go to argument is "Remember Polio? I don't! You know why? VACCINES!"

 

[Ryan Rash]

There's little that actually enrages me more on the internet than antivaxers. I, personally, put blame on Oprah Winfrey for this: if she didn't give that dumbass Jenny McCarthy a platform from which to hoot and hollar about how OMG THE VAXES MADE MY SON A RETARD, peeps wouldn't be catching, and dying from, measles and smallpox. You'd jeopardize your child's life and the welfare of others just because you don't want your child to catch autism? I find your very existence offensive, and kindly ask that you choke on a wall of dicks.