Science AP: Meme falsely claims dinosaurs were only invented to prove evolution is real. There is no ‘dinohoax’ - Humans have been discovering dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, despite claims otherwise on social media.

Meme falsely claims dinosaurs were only invented to prove evolution is real. There is no ‘dinohoax’
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By Melissa Goldin
2023-12-28 19:45:40.14GMT

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A model of a dinosaur is seen during an auction of auction house Koller, for the skeleton of a Tyrannosaurus rex named Trinity, in Zurich, Switzerland on Tuesday, April 18, 2023. Humans have been discovering dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, despite claims otherwise on social media. (Michael Buholzer/Keystone via AP)

CLAIM: The word “dinosaur” was coined before the first dinosaur fossils were discovered, which proves that the prehistoric reptiles never existed.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Humans have been finding dinosaur fossils for thousands of years, although experts widely credit an English surgeon and his wife for recognizing their significance after the couple’s 1822 discovery of dinosaur teeth in a forest south of London. An English anatomist and paleontologist coined the word “dinosauria,” the scientific name for dinosaurs meaning “terrible lizard,” in 1842.

THE FACTS: Millions of years after the dinosaurs’ extinction, social media users have dug up an old meme to deny the ancient beasts ever actually roamed the Earth.

“Sir Richard Owen, who created the term dinosaur, wanted to prove evolution to be true,” reads an image shared on Instagram. “He knew that many in the scientific community embraced the same goal. He was broke, and desperate to succeed. After his invention of the ‘dinosaur’ in 1842, amazingly, the first dinosaur discovery happened in 1858.”

In the top-left corner of the image, the word “dinohoax” appears below a picture of a Tyrannosaurus rex.

It’s unclear where the meme originated, but a Google search for “dinohoax” shows it has been circulating online since at least 2019.

Owen, an English anatomist and paleontologist, introduced the term dinosauria in 1842 to describe three types of extinct reptiles that had been formally named in the first decades of the 1800s.

But experts say fossilized dinosaur remains have been uncovered throughout human history, even though they weren’t broadly recognized for what they are until the 19th century.

“People have been interested in not just fossils, but dinosaur fossils, certainly for thousands of years,” Bruce Lieberman, director of the University of Kansas’ Paleontological Institute, told The Associated Press.

He explained that there is archaeological and other types of evidence pointing to an awareness among early civilizations of the creatures that would come to be known as dinosaurs. For example, a Native American pictogram of a giant bird dated to about 500 A.D. was found next to a site where dinosaur footprints were also discovered.

Gideon Mantell, an English surgeon, and his wife Mary Ann Mantell are widely regarded by experts as the first to view dinosaur fossils through a modern scientific lens. The couple, both amateur paleontologists, noted the significance of fossils as belonging to a different type of reptile following their discovery of dinosaur teeth in Tilgate Forest, approximately 27 miles (44 kilometers) south of London, in 1822.

After noticing similarities between the fossilized teeth and those of living iguanas, Gideon Mantell published a paper with his findings in 1825, naming the creature to whom the latter belonged iguanadon. Years later, Owen would use the word dinosauria to describe the iguanadon and two other creatures named around the same time — the megalosaurus and the hylaeosaurus.

“These three examples represent the first to be formally identified, described, and named scientifically as extinct animals,” Matt Friedman, director and associate curator at the University of Michigan’s Museum of Paleontology, told the AP in an email. “Owen was suitably impressed by the differences between these three ancient creatures and ‘ordinary’ reptiles that he decided they merited their own group, the dinosauria.”

Friedman added that “although a variety of evolutionary ideas were in circulation at the time,” Owen came up with the word dinosauria nearly 30 years prior to the publication of Charles Darwin’s “On the Origin of Species,” regarded as the cornerstone of evolutionary biology.

Additionally, Owen was not “desperate to succeed,” contrary to the claim spreading online.

“Owen was one of the most prominent British biologists of the mid-1800s, not some unknown scientist laboring in obscurity and looking for a big break,” Friedman wrote.
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Here's the meme:
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Does anyone even care about creationism? Like no one at all?
 
Does anyone even care about creationism? Like no one at all?
I don't think most creationists think a human faked it. Either it's the "Adam's belly button" argument (i.e. creation needed a backstory so God made one) or something stupid about tricks by the Devil.
 
Dinosaurs are real. They are not, however, millions of years old. The fossils we find are the result of sudden, mass extinction during the Flood. The massive oil deposits around the globe are also from this event, when continent-sized forests were buried in millions of tons of mud, rock and sediment.
Every culture the world over has tales of "dragons"; these are the descendants of the dinosaurs that survived the Flood.
 
This sounds like an old /b/ style operation or something. lol
Or a prog op..

I mean i don't doubt there are people who think this.. There are people who think the earth is flat or that space travel is impossible for some reason. Just not on this supposed scale and out of nowhere.
 
Does anyone even care about creationism? Like no one at all?
The hilarious thing about Reddit atheists hating on creationism is that the Big Bang theory was literally invented by a Catholic priest.

Regarding evolution, Darwin was an agnostic (not an atheist) who recognized the social benefits of religion and advocated against “mocking the fundies”.
 
The hilarious thing about Reddit atheists hating on creationism is that the Big Bang theory was literally invented by a Catholic priest.
A lot of things were invented or discovered by religious people, I don't think it has a bearing one way or the other. However, what's the exact definition of creationism again? I thought most of this stuff was YEC, Young Earth Creationism, not creationism as a whole.
 
The hilarious thing about Reddit atheists hating on creationism is that the Big Bang theory was literally invented by a Catholic priest.

Regarding evolution, Darwin was an agnostic (not an atheist) who recognized the social benefits of religion and advocated against “mocking the fundies”.
I was reading some Marxist publication this year, and they hated the idea of the Big Bang-precisely because it implies the universe and matter had a definite beginning point.

I could see some Materialists and Atheists embracing the idea of an eternal universe.
 
I love people that think fossils are fake and dinosaurs and shit aren't real. It's truly the laziest, shit brain take ever. Nigger, you can find fossils if you look for them, I have found several over my years and they're just chilling in my stupid rock collection.
Have you done the testing to know they are dinosaur fossils?
 
I was reading some Marxist publication this year, and they hated the idea of the Big Bang-precisely because it implies the universe and matter had a definite beginning point.

I could see some Materialists and Atheists embracing the idea of an eternal universe.
There’s a lot of crossover between materialists and Determinists. They were all over astrophysics until the Big Bang Theory (and Hubble) destroyed the steady state universe concept, while nuclear decay and photon research kicked the determinism out of quantum physics.

So they shifted out of physics and into biology. The Darwinian evolutionary model is built on a determinist foundation. It’s the last major determinist holdover in modern science. And ever so popular with materialists as a result.

Nowadays they won’t allow any real study into the actual processes of evolution, since it will likely show that Darwin missed something fundamental and evolution isn’t deterministic either.
 
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The "everything had feathers" is a retarded paleoartist trend and even some diversity hire "scientists" eat it up.

It would be like saying all mammals are furry. Except they aren't, especially if they live in hot areas.

Imagine a reconstruction of a hippo with bright neon fur...
Modern tranny plaeoartists are obsessed with accuracy yet will happily draw a brachiosaurus that looks like a giant squirmles.
The "paleoart revolution" started by All yesterdays has turned into parody, exactly like the one started in the 90s by The dinosaur heresies and Jurassic Park.
 
Genuinely, truly even in religious circles I see no insistence on creationism. Like, maybe a lot of religious people still don’t accept evolution but I think even southern baptists have realized that creationism is a no go in terms of winning over the broader culture.

It’s a dead issue. Creationist publications like AiG or Creation Ministries from what I can tell have no real influence on discourse anywhere.

What this sort of hysteria does do however is get liberals motivated-that the Bible thumping science illiterates are going too…destroy public education and impose a theocracy or something.

I suspect it’s a way to get liberals energized for 2024.
 
Does anyone even care about creationism? Like no one at all?
Yeah, edgy anti-religious people on social media, so they can dunk on the "creationists" and thus somehow prove their Dad was an asshole for making them go to church.

The number of people who believe it is dwarfed by the number of people who don't, but it's always treated as this growing malignant tumor that will somehow be society's downfall if we don't marginalize organized religion in this country even further than it already is, up to an including denying the vote to anyone of the Christian faith.
 
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