Are all laptops shit?

[Slav Power]

The new Apple laptops after the chip change are built to last,

FYI, the phrase "built to last" in the context of laptops doesn't mean "it has enough computing power to not struggle within a few years", it's "it's physically built in such a way that it won't fail you within a few years of use". If you've ever watched a single video from Louis Rossmann you'd know that all Apple laptops are built to fail. Purposeful design flaws that send over 50 volts to the CPU if you spill a drop of water in the most likely place for you to spill it. Built to last my ass.

I can't wait when computers turn into shitty hyper locked down tablets where everything is on the SOC and I can't run any programs that my main computer can run because a bunch of fucking queers fell for the "arm is just better because it is ok" joke.

Relevant /g/ post:

ARM shills can choke on Roger Wilson's girlcock. x86(_64) forever and ever.

the storage on modern Macbooks is soldered to the board and supposedly encrypted such that even three-letter niggers can't reliably recover it. Much as

Given how Apple Silicon puts everything on there, CPU, GPU and RAM, to have their amazing performance gains at the cost of planned obsolescence and a single point of failure, I wouldn't be surprised if later down the line they'll put storage on there as well. Your RAM went bad? Oops, that's your entire system going kaput! Your CPU, GPU, and all of your data! But remember that it's "built to last", because Apple cultists said so. Then again, those types buy that shit for the logo alone so they have zero idea what the fuck they're even talking about.

EDIT: Two minutes after posting, no direct ping, and the Mac shill is already seething.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

FYI, the phrase "built to last" in the context of laptops doesn't mean "it has enough computing power to not struggle within a few years", it's "it's physically built in such a way that it won't fail you within a few years of use". If you've ever watched a single video from Louis Rossmann you'd know that all Apple laptops are built to fail. Purposeful design flaws that send over 50 volts to the CPU if you spill a drop of water in the most likely place for you to spill it. Built to last my ass.

This is why Thinkpads and now Frameworks are your best options nowadays, even though they use some proprietary parts its all readily available, decently cheap and easy to replace. If your Mac breaks it costs almost as much to just buy a new one.

ARM shills can choke on Roger Wilson's girlcock. x86(_64) forever and ever.

B-b-but my power savings!!!
I can get 5-6 hours of battery life on my Framework (using a x86 Intel CPU btw) with continuous use.
Its all you need.

EDIT: Two minutes after posting, no direct ping, and the Mac shill is already seething.

Makes sense. You can't do real work on Macs because they run Mac OS, so they just seethe all day on image boards and forums instead.

 

[Slav Power]

B-b-but my power savings!!!

AMD has pretty much proven that x86 can be power efficient if you put your mind into it. Their latest mobile chips are just a constant chain of power efficient bangers, even the Zen 3+ refreshes. If anything, that's the big positive of Arm troons trying to force their way into the desktop market. It kicked Intel and AMD in the ass, the good ol' cogs of capitalism started spinning, and now they're getting competitive with their products.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

ARM shills can choke on Roger Wilson's girlcock. x86(_64) forever and ever.

nigger your favorite platform is a risc architecture running a proprietary glowie backdoor ridden emulator bogged down with almost 50 years of forced backwards compatibility baggage and still coasting on the ibm/intel/microsoft personal computing monopoly triumvirate from the 80s because the moment an actual competitor came up in the form of arm powered apple socs x86 was laughed out of the room for its pathetic inefficiency and only several years later is amd starting to make steps to bridge the gap. do you also fiercely campaign for people to program in cobol and fortran?

arm has a lot of issues but its existence and continued development is absolutely necessary to prevent x86 from languishing as the flaming heap of patchwork ass frankenstein dogshit its been for the last 20 years until recently amd finally figured out how to squeeze some fucking efficiency out of it. the more development goes into any non-x86 alternative architecture the better for the industry as a whole. in the meantime all computer users in the world stand to benefit when tribalist faggots like you stop malding when someone recommends the better suited product (ie NOT x86) for the stated purpose, and thats coming from an apple hater before you try to accuse me.

 

[Slav Power]

nigger your favorite platform is a risc architecture running a proprietary glowie backdoor ridden emulator bogged down with almost 50 years of forced backwards compatibility baggage and still coasting on the ibm/intel/microsoft personal computing monopoly triumvirate from the 80s because the moment an actual competitor came up in the form of arm powered apple socs x86 was laughed out of the room for its pathetic inefficiency and only several years later is amd starting to make steps to bridge the gap. do you also fiercely campaign for people to program in cobol and fortran?

arm has a lot of issues but its existence and continued development is absolutely necessary to prevent x86 from languishing as the flaming heap of patchwork ass frankenstein dogshit its been for the last 20 years until recently amd finally figured out how to squeeze some fucking efficiency out of it. the more development goes into any non-x86 alternative architecture the better for the industry as a whole. in the meantime all computer users in the world stand to benefit when tribalist faggots like you stop malding when someone recommends the better suited product (ie NOT x86) for the stated purpose, and thats coming from an apple hater before you try to accuse me.

Stop browsing /g/ so much, you sound like you're gonna have an aneurysm over x86 sooner than I will over Linux.

 

[卐卐卐]

glowie backdoor

Any electronic box connected to intranet is a glownigger device nigger.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

Stop browsing /g/ so much, you sound like you're gonna have an aneurysm over x86 sooner than I will over Linux.

youre literally the only one bringing /g/ up here you autist. you capped a /g/ schizopost to sperg out about arm bad and x86 good because muh uefi forum, in a thread asking which laptop op should buy for ms word and emails. LMAO

 

[Slav Power]

>all this shit

>>>/g/

 

[RacistComputer79]

As long as you can pirate shit, it's all good.

 

[ForkyMeetsPorky]

Most business class laptops should be fine if you're happy to go the second hand market, Dell Latitude, Lenovo Thinkpad and Panasonic Toughbooks are some examples. Some models even come with modular drive bays that can be hot-swapped.

FYI, the phrase "built to last" in the context of laptops doesn't mean "it has enough computing power to not struggle within a few years", it's "it's physically built in such a way that it won't fail you within a few years of use". If you've ever watched a single video from Louis Rossmann you'd know that all Apple laptops are built to fail. Purposeful design flaws that send over 50 volts to the CPU if you spill a drop of water in the most likely place for you to spill it. Built to last my ass.

Relevant /g/ post:
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ARM shills can choke on Roger Wilson's girlcock. x86(_64) forever and ever.

Given how Apple Silicon puts everything on there, CPU, GPU and RAM, to have their amazing performance gains at the cost of planned obsolescence and a single point of failure, I wouldn't be surprised if later down the line they'll put storage on there as well. Your RAM went bad? Oops, that's your entire system going kaput! Your CPU, GPU, and all of your data! But remember that it's "built to last", because Apple cultists said so. Then again, those types buy that shit for the logo alone so they have zero idea what the fuck they're even talking about.

EDIT: Two minutes after posting, no direct ping, and the Mac shill is already seething.
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I believe Microsoft tried several times to have an standardised RISC arch, all the way back to the early implementations of Windows NT where Microsoft had planned PowerPC/MIPS/SPARC versions which had their own Fireware mechanisms like PReP and Jazz. To this day I don't believe you can just grab a installer for Windows 11 and install it on any ARM device unless its a componentised version of Windows IoT. As such I see ARM notebooks as extensions of Windows CE.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Get a Lenovo ThinkPad.

 

[Ed Special]

You can't do real work on Macs because they run Mac OS, so they just seethe all day on image boards and forums instead.

There's a huge amount of professional audio and video software that remains locked to Apple because it depends on Unix to work, fuck're you on about?

 

[the rat]

arm has a lot of issues but its existence and continued development is absolutely necessary to prevent x86 from languishing as the flaming heap of patchwork ass frankenstein dogshit its been for the last 20 years until recently amd finally figured out how to squeeze some fucking efficiency out of it. the more development goes into any non-x86 alternative architecture the better for the industry as a whole. in the meantime all computer users in the world stand to benefit when tribalist faggots like you stop malding when someone recommends the better suited product (ie NOT x86) for the stated purpose, and thats coming from an apple hater before you try to accuse me.

x86 = bad because old = bad because bloated = bad because bloated = inefficient. The M chips use little power because of how they're designed, not because of their uarch. You give those M chips the same type of freedom a regular desktop x86 chip has and you will enjoy inefficiency.

I wonder why tablet designed SOC would be so power efficient and fast at opening up a bunch of programs? Part 2 on "ARM is just better because it just is ok?".

 

[CEO of Autism]

I love laptops. I don't get how people love to be chained to one specific spot in their houses so much, it made me miserable before I discovered the world of laptops. Enjoy back pain from using the same chair for years.

 

[Lapsus of the bepsus]

x86 = bad because old = bad because bloated = bad because bloated = inefficient. The M chips use little power because of how they're designed, not because of their uarch. You give those M chips the same type of freedom a regular desktop x86 chip has and you will enjoy inefficiency.

I wonder why tablet designed SOC would be so power efficient and fast at opening up a bunch of programs? Part 2 on "ARM is just better because it just is ok?".

is this bait?
i dont understand why you spergs keep going on and on about "freedom" as if its some vaunted goal that a guy buying a laptop for word processing and playing music needs to take into account when choosing what to buy.

let me copypaste ops question because clearly you forgot what the fuck youre even talking about.

Al I want is a reliable device that can run a word processor, a music player, and a browser simultaneously. As a bonus, easy to open up and change out the battery if needed.

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I've had goofy issues pop up with every single laptop I've owned though. One had a system failure and bricked for no reason. Is there a truly good brand out there?

As much as I'd like a dedicated PC for writing (already have one for gaming), it lacks the convenience and portability of a laptop for this one purpose. Can any laptop be pretty good so as long as you wipe Windows from it?

other than changing the battery a macbook is a completely obvious candidate, its basically tailor fucking made for this exact purpose and the arm models have pretty damn good performance that makes the system feel nice to use. it doesnt have windows which op doesnt seem to like all that much anyway, and while the hardware and software are both proprietary theyre pretty reliable.

really sucks for op that the arm architecture is not "fREe" because now he has to buy a fucking bionicle ass laptop where you have to shell out an extra $500 above base price just to get a shelf model that you dont have to assemble yourself lol. i like framework btw but youre trying to recommend it to a guy who needs a simple basic laptop without any bullshit such as experimental enthusiast grade hardware configurations.

 

[asr]

yeah other than the battery issues over time unless OP is constantly hard-lining to where thermal throttling is an issue, which from their stated use case does not seem like it'll happen a mac is basically the best option imo barring a few issues:

- Apple are faggots and have segmented their M series based on how many external monitors you can use, if you want more than 2 external monitors on current year M series line up, you need to shill for the pro line up

- The air does not have fans, which is gonna lead to thermal throttling if you plan on doing very intensive things on it, but for word processing, media consumption, etc you will never have an issue

- The battery issues aren't as dire as people make it out to be, Apple will replace your battery for you for an admittedly retarded price of roughly 200, best buy offers a slightly cheaper price for a replacement IIRC. If you're really inclined to do you you can buy the battery and go off of ifixit videos to do it yourself if so inclined.

 

[the rat]

i dont understand why you spergs keep going on and on about "freedom" as if its some vaunted goal that a guy buying a laptop for word processing and playing music needs to take into account when choosing what to buy.

Nigga all I'm saying is that your idea of the future being ARM and not x86 because x86 is inefficient because M series proved that bro (ignore the glaring obvious difference between a regular mobile x86 chip and the M series) is retarded. There is a reason the ARM chips don't use as much power and it's not because of being ARM you queer.

For the OP? Literally anything modern will do him fine. Like I already said this????

Just stay away from anything that has the words Celeron, Pentium or Atom in it and ensure it was made past 2015 and you should probably be more than golden.

I'd recommend a Thinkpad T480 though. I think they're pretty cheap now?

You're stupid and you should feel bad for being stupid.

 

[Baguette Child]

Apple laptops are built to last

My work issue macbook has shat the bed twice in the past year and a half of light charting and spreadsheet usage. Both times they had to be returned for a new replacement. They are absolutely not built to last.

 

[asr]

My work issue macbook has shat the bed twice in the past year and a half of light charting and spreadsheet usage. Both times they had to be returned for a new replacement. They are absolutely not built to last.

FWIW both my 2015 macbook works just fine to this day, and my m1 pro macbook from a few years ago feels like new. Anecdotally macbooks do tend to age gracefully imo if you're willing to put up with the apple faggotry.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

My all AMD, Alpine Linux gaming laptop has been wonderful with excellent battery life, and performance, for everything. I very much prefer it over having a desktop.