Are Asians actually intelligent - Minus 500 social credit

[WickyWickyWoW]

The Chinese created an huge writing system but didn't create an alphabet, instead opting for the a brute-force and memorization-based approach to written language. The Japanese and Koreans both have alphabets, but they still choose to use kanji and hanja because they're retarded. That should tell you everything you need to know about Asian cultures.

I considered talking about Phoenician derived alphabets vs gook runes but I have minimal knowledge on how gook runes actual work and couldnt be bothered to actually look it up. Do you have a QRD on how they work?

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

I considered talking about Phoenician derived alphabets vs gook runes but I have minimal knowledge on how gook runes actual work and couldnt be bothered to actually look it up. Do you have a QRD on how they work?

I'm not an expert, but from my understanding, hiragana and katakana are more or less analogous to our own alphabet. Each character is associated with a sound, you combine sounds together to make a word. I don't know why there's both hiragana and katakana, but I guess they would also wonder why we have uppercase and lowercase letters. Kanji is pure memorization, and there is no relation with how a kanji is pronounced and the way it's written. With the latin or hiragana/katakana alphabets, you can still try to pronounce words you've never seen before, or figure out how to write words if you know how to pronounce them. This isn't possible with kanji, you just memorize them. Kanji is derived from China's written system, so this is basically how the entire Chinese written language works.

 

[Len Belard]

I reached peak Asian IQ after watching a conversation between Elon Musk and Jack Ma.

 

[Llama king]

The Japanese are literally a bunch of soulless wageslaves

 

[Eydallur]

Does it matter? Is this something that keeps you up at night?

I'd think what is of greater relevance is the fact that morality is phenotypic and that human biodiversity has resulted in a variety of ethnicities that might be culturally compatible with each other but not yours or with yours but not each other.

Take swedes for example, their ardent desire to share their daughters with all the worst scum of the third world makes them culturally compatible with both kurds and turks who are only happy to avail themselves of gang rapes and government handouts but now that you've imported both you also import their ethnic conflict into your own domain which throws your NATO application into serious doubt.

It'd be wonderful if all of China's emigrees were 5000IQ gigabrains but I'd have to speak to a couple casino managers first I think to have a good sense of what this whole meritocracy business would mean for my nation if taken to the logical extreme.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Does it matter? Is this something that keeps you up at night?

I thought about it after noticing just about every Japanese game lately is coded like shit, even compared to western titles.

 

[MadStan]

I have dealt with many Asians and also been in several countries in the region. I'd say by and large, yes as a group they have a rather high intelligence. Their pilots aren't to be shrugged off either. However, I think a qualifier on this is required in so far as initiative and creativity is not always associated with intelligence and I found them lacking in this regard, prone to mimicry and duplication more than create.

The Western man of generally high intelligence appears to be also endowed with a sense of risk and creativity which generally expresses itself - I think - with more success. I think their weakness in creativity is for a population a point of slower than would-be-hoped-for development for ingenuity in their fields.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

The Western man of generally high intelligence appears to be also endowed with a sense of risk and creativity which generally expresses itself - I think - with more success. I think their weakness in creativity is for a population a point of slower than would-be-hoped-for development for ingenuity in their fields.

Lmao Westerners may be more “creative” in some aspects but they are seldom more intelligent. Many Westerners, particularly whites, have been indoctrinated into feeling some sort of guilt about their skin color or ancestry, thus resulting in the devaluing of the education and arts that white people historically built up. Asians in general don’t give a shit about identity politics. They strive to learn instead of flagellating themselves for being who they are. It’s usually the Asian-American, aka the second-generation Asian, that screeches about oppression and white privilege. Western culture has turned into a culture of crybabies and pitting oneself against each other for woke brownie points.

 

[Whatevermancer]

No, cause only our glorious white race is intelligent.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

They lack creativity, they suck at music and have a terrible sense of rhythm/pitch, they lack empathy, have a frankly disturbingly detached relationship with animals with no appreciation whatsoever for the natural world, they have very little sense of genuine honor/principle with their main concern being appearances...

They lack creativity and suck at music and pitch? You're far more likely to find individuals with perfect pitch among East Asian phenotypes than European whites. This might be due to the fact that tonal languages are much more common in East and South East Asia. Due to their ingrained culture of discipline (and, as you mentioned, their generally better skill at repetitive tasks which aids with musical practice) they also tend to be quite good at classical music. The East and Southeast Asians have plenty of issues but a lack of musical ability and honor culture are certainly not ones I would levy at them. I do agree that Japanese and South Koreans generally have more finesse in expressing this than mainland Han Chinese, however. The detached relationship towards animals is definitely disturbing (though, once again, this appears to be much more common with mainland Han Chinese than Japanese and South Koreans) but I certainly wouldn't accuse the Japanese of having no appreciation whatsoever for the natural world considering the belief system of Shinto.

I dislike threads like this because it groups a gargantuan continent with hundreds (if not thousands) of ethnicities as a monolith. Viewing things from a racial lens is a very North American way of looking at things (saying this as an American myself, but I've traveled extensively) because of the great melting pot. Ethnicity matters far more than race in the old world. A Goan from southwestern India is as different from a Kyrgyz in the Tian Shan mountains as some Anglo-Canadian farmer is from a Zia pueblo inhabitant. My short answer to the OP's question is yes, 'Asians' are intelligent to varying degrees and each ethnicity has their cultural strengths and weaknesses (I'm no relativist). Some have greater strengths and weaknesses than others. Nuance is key.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

I dislike threads like this because it groups a gargantuan continent with hundreds (if not thousands) of ethnicities as a monolith.

I like this sentiment, but it's not a "thread" issue. This bullshit happens in the normie world as well, just look at all the AAPI / Stop Anti Asian Hate movements that allegedly advocate for Asians yet fail to acknowledge that multiple types of Asian exist (and especially with the stop hate stuff, act like all Asians are Chinese).

Even Asians perpetuate this problem, as can be seen in "Dear JK Rowling, from Cho Chang" where Rachel Rostad had the audacity to speak for all Asians and then had to put out apology videos like "Sorry, I didn't realize different Asians had different valid first and last names, I was wrong. But when you think about it, why do you feel like I was talking for you? Isn't it a shame that racists have made our voices so interchangeable?"

Spoiler: MATI

Racists didn't do that. Rostad [larping as Cho Chang] said, and I quote:

I am supposed to be Chinese.

When you put me in your books, millions of Asian girls across America rejoiced! Finally, a potential Halloween costume that wasn't a geisha or Mulan!

She said she was speaking for millions of Asians across America, when speaking as a character who is only Chinese.

Asian girl was trying to blame the viewer for lumping all Asians together when she's the one who made all Asians interchangeable by speaking for millions of Asians and declaring that they all saw themselves reflected in a character that is only Chinese.

Correction, not all Asians. Asians girls across America. Asian American girls. Because you know, Cho Chang was totally American, and Rachel Rostad wasn't just appropriating other Asians' voices as her own.

It's extra infuriating when you start looking at the brits calling middle easterners "Asian" to avoid saying who is raping all the little girls. Surely they can be a little more specific than "Asian"?

Honestly I find the mainstream approved racism more infuriating than this thread. At least on KF, people don't sniff their own farts about how their bigotry is actually fighting racism.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Asians (from Asia) are good at solving formulaic problems but are creatively sterile.

 

[870EVO]

Asians (from Asia) are good at solving formulaic problems but are creatively sterile.

From my anecdotal observations. Asians (Japan, China, Korea etc) tend to be able to focus extremely well on one task. I can't tell you the amount of times I've walked up to an Asian doing a task, and they don't even know you are there. This is not tip toeing up to them either. I've seen an Asian girl knocked to the ground because she was so engrossed in a conversation with someone she walked into a giant man on a busy walkway. She didn't even start or flinch. Now I've seen guys walk into poles while looking at their phone. But this was a 6'5 200lb guy. I've not seen such a thing happen to anyone in my life before that.

Once they focus on something, it's like they are gone.

 

[Spob]

I once read a book ( Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell) that tried to explain this thing, saying that Chinese languages and their number systems were more straightforward and less convoluted than ours. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, and nine become yi, er, san, si, wu, liu, qi, ba, jiu, and shi. Twelve thousand three hundred forty five becomes yi wan er qian san bai si shi wu.

Something I've noticed about Asians in general in my life is that at least until Gen Z they've been a lot less likely to accept liberal woke bullshit like pronouns etc. Probably because most of it is just colonialism anyway, no matter how much they try to pretend it isn't.

Also, how much of a role do you think Confucianism and related philosophical systems play?

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I'd have a lot more time for the sort of blanket generalizations that people are making in this thread if they actually supported them with some data, because so far it seems to me that all these assumptions really amount to is a just-so story. It might be interesting to speculate about the degree to which ideologies like Confucianism may dampen innovation, but until someone can present some hard evidence to demonstrate the degree to which this plays out in practice, that's ultimately all it is: speculation.

Are Asian cultures really less innovative than Western ones? Because the Global Innovation Index doesn't paint so clear a picture. The top 5 countries may be Western (4 European, and 1 North American), but at number 6 you've got South Korea, and just below that, Singapore. Once you get below number 7, there seems to be no clear correlation at all (especially when adjusted for economic development), and all the way at the bottom you've got countries as diverse as Vietnam, Romania, and Chile.

Nature publishes it's own index of leading countries in natural science research, and again, the results are quite mixed: The United States is still in the lead, but China, Japan, and South Korea are all in the top ten.

 

[Hyperbola]

The Japanese make good machine tools. If there is a problem in the way a given generation of tool works, they will take note of it during their technician inspections, and it will end up being fixed in the next version. They tend to support their products.

Honda has a better claim to being an American car than GM, since one is made here employing our people, and the other is made in Mexico to pad some Havard Business dork's yearly costcutting powerpoint. (All you jerks who would key "buy American" into non-GM cars, hows that working out for you?)

From the outside, it seems their management of their companies is less predatory.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Low IQ Asians are hard to find because they have enough sense to stay quiet and be thought of as a fool rather than opening their mouths and confirming it.

 

[Subaru Impreza WRC]

Low IQ Asians are hard to find because they have enough sense to stay quiet and be thought of as a fool rather than opening their mouths and confirming it.

just wait till you find out about pajeets

 

[Apteryx Retardi]

IIRC Asians of both sexes tend to have a narrower/"female" IQ distribution. In other races, males tend to make up most geniuses and tards, while women have the same mathematical average but are mostly clustered around that/in normie range. With asians, its both in normie range, with their normie value maybe 5 points higher.

Makes sense actually. Considering that azns both haven't managed to completely take over Teh Science!, and also have very few tards per capita as well.

 

[Matajudios]

There are many literally retarded South Asians, due to inbreeding, of course you won't find them abroad, expect in lovely cities like Londonistan or Birminghamistan...
The IQ studies are useless since they only tested Tier 1 cities like Beijing or Shanghai. But East Asians definitely value studying and discipline more.