Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Ok, I want to pose something and I want to see if anyone can poke holes in it. I believe that Covid is more dangerous than we are being led to believe, and that even inert it poses severe risk. I believe the dangers aren't death, but long term effects, effects that are known to some, but if known to all would cause massive unrest. I believe that they are pushing the mRNA vax and trying to disallow the use of classic vax like j&j, because there is some danger not being made public. Here is my sperg:

Spoiler: My First Conspiracy Theory Sperg

- Getting a vaccine for a survivable virus seems overkill. Practically forcing your population to get a vaccine with the looming threat of vaccine passports, inability to travel, loss of job etc enforced by the government seems dystopian.

- Barring the j&j vaccine for side effects found in 6 people worldwide amongst millions of who received the jabs doesn't make sense.

- The lockdown, destruction of our economy, China's own reaction to their lab grown virus (welding doors shut, secreting away those sick, etc) for a survivable virus doesn't make sense. And the Chinee assuredly have the most info on the own lab grown/manipulated virus. Their reaction is particularly bizarre, even for an authoritarian communist dictatorship.

I cannot reconcile the behavior of any of these governments with the available info we have on the danger covid poses to society. I try to make it fit in to my world view, that governments do not care about their people and will do whatever they can to control and manipulate their constituents regardless of the damage/suffering caused. But it all falls apart when it comes down to Bibi Netanyahu and his actions.

Bibi is corrupt, he is a shiester, he is distasteful, he is right wing, he is all the things his detractors say about him. But, he is an Israeli/jewish supremacist who profoundly cares about his people and the ascendance/security of the Jewish state. I do not buy that he would purposely hurt his people in anyway that would weaken the fighting effectiveness, or the continued existence of Israel. I believe the Israeli government's intelligence agencies are well informed, and the he is well informed about the potential dangers of Covid. And they went fucking nuts with the vaccines. They were the most draconian of the countries, the longest quarantines, the fastest vaccination prep and distribution, etc.

This is why I believe we are being pressured so hard to get vaccinated. This is why I believe they are fudging the numbers of deaths. It is not because the virus is fatal, but because there are long term effects that if known publicly would be detrimental to social stability. Mass sterilization, some serious cognitive disorders. Something that would turn a lot of the world in to nihilists who believe they have no future.

Yesterday I was against the vax. Today I am for it.

Dude its a fucking Coronaviridae

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

VAERs is not exactly an accurate database. If someone dies from a car crash, they're still listed in there as a vaccine side effect. Using VAERs shows how you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and should be ignored.

Stop shitting up the thread fag

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Stop shitting up the thread fag

lol calm down

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

lol calm down

fag

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

fag

lol calm down

 

[Trombonista]

To those of you still holding out, may I suggest checking in weekly with friends and family who have gotten the vaccine? That way you can see if any of the adverse effects you're worried about show up.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

lol calm down

I win.

 

[Lone Outsider]

Unless It is absolutely necessary, then no. I am cool with Vaccines but this COVID fuckery has made me skeptical of this one in particular.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

If the vax is not stopping you from getting it or spreading it, vax passports make no sense. The vax, based on these effects, should be a individualist issue. You're just saving yourself.

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

To those of you still holding out, may I suggest checking in weekly with friends and family who have gotten the vaccine? That way you can see if any of the adverse effects you're worried about show up.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Normally, I would have been a frustrated tard spouting out any excuse to not take the vaccine. But over time, I've seen my entire family take it and they were fine and I realized it was stupid to keep acting like a retard over it. If you don't wanna get it though, that's fine, just keep working on better excuses for why people shouldn't.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

Not being a bugman

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Ok, I want to pose something and I want to see if anyone can poke holes in it. I believe that Covid is more dangerous than we are being led to believe...:

Spoiler: My First Conspiracy Theory Sperg

- Getting a vaccine for a survivable virus seems overkill. Practically forcing your population to get a vaccine with the looming threat of vaccine passports, inability to travel, loss of job etc enforced by the government seems dystopian.

- Barring the j&j vaccine for side effects found in 6 people worldwide amongst millions of who received the jabs doesn't make sense.

- The lockdown, destruction of our economy, China's own reaction to their lab grown virus (welding doors shut, secreting away those sick, etc) for a survivable virus doesn't make sense. And the Chinee assuredly have the most info on the own lab grown/manipulated virus. Their reaction is particularly bizarre, even for an authoritarian communist dictatorship.

I cannot reconcile the behavior of any of these governments with the available info we have on the danger covid poses to society. I try to make it fit in to my world view, that governments do not care about their people and will do whatever they can to control and manipulate their constituents regardless of the damage/suffering caused. But it all falls apart when it comes down to Bibi Netanyahu and his actions.

Bibi is corrupt, he is a shiester, he is distasteful, he is right wing, he is all the things his detractors say about him. But, he is an Israeli/jewish supremacist who profoundly cares about his people and the ascendance/security of the Jewish state. I do not buy that he would purposely hurt his people in anyway that would weaken the fighting effectiveness, or the continued existence of Israel. I believe the Israeli government's intelligence agencies are well informed, and the he is well informed about the potential dangers of Covid. And they went fucking nuts with the vaccines. They were the most draconian of the countries, the longest quarantines, the fastest vaccination prep and distribution, etc.

This is why I believe we are being pressured so hard to get vaccinated. This is why I believe they are fudging the numbers of deaths. It is not because the virus is fatal, but because there are long term effects that if known publicly would be detrimental to social stability. Mass sterilization, some serious cognitive disorders. Something that would turn a lot of the world in to nihilists who believe they have no future.

Or. Or. Or. Occam's Razor: it's a Coronavirus, which causes a series of symptoms virtually indistinguishable from a cold to the layperson. And may as well be classed as a cold, since "cold" colloquially means "something that causes sniffles/coughing/malaise/headaches and goes away by itself in a few days or weeks unless you have the world's worst immune system".

And the people convinced it's going to kill everyone in the face of all the evidence that it totally won't are either 1. Giddy from the cheap political power and financial gains a freakout provides them, or 2. Western baizuo with swollen amygdalas riding the same high munchies get from exaggerating risks. It turns out pretending you're a brave warrior fighting against impossible odds gives you endorphin and adrenaline rushes otherwise unavailable to the lardass peasant masses of a safe, modern dystopia.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

So as it turns out I’m actually getting the Pfizer vaccine tomorrow, and the second shot in the next few weeks come May.

The strange part about it is that due to allergy season, I have noticed some side effects of what might be considered COVID, but luckily it’s not life-threatening. It’s basically the basic common cold symptoms (runny nose, causing of rubbing your eyes, slight coughing, etc.), and now I don’t know if this COVID vaccine is going to change anything regarding still being in allergy season.

The confused old man stock photo is basically me questioning why I have to take two doses of it. My parents already told me they took both, but my mother reportedly stated that if you want to travel across U.S., you need to take two apparantely.

TL;DR - I’m getting the vaccine tomorrow and if anything bad happens to me, just know this: it was all @Hollywood Hulk Hogan and his N.W.O’s crew fault, and I was just doing what I was told.

 

[they_live]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Normally, I would have been a frustrated tard spouting out any excuse to not take the vaccine. But over time, I've seen my entire family take it and they were fine and I realized it was stupid to keep acting like a retard over it. If you don't wanna get it though, that's fine, just keep working on better excuses for why people shouldn't.

I'm worried about down the line effects, not immediate effects (which I've already seen pretty bad ones in my line of work). I have also been a victim of medical malpractice growing up (to the point of my family suing a hospital) so I don't 'just trust doctors'.

 

[Bassomatic]

I've been pretty open minded about this shit, but my area just opened up for people like me. I called my doc whom I have 400% trust in. He's always been up my ass to get a flu shot etc, he's said for me don't. So I won't.

Crazy thing he mentioned I have bad joint issues, and you've heard on news ppl getting shingles from it.. half of them had vax for shingles. So this either kills those anti bodies or it's some super shingles.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I win.

At being an assmad retard you sure do

 

[Vulva Gape]

If the vax is not stopping you from getting it or spreading it, vax passports make no sense. The vax, based on these effects, should be a individualist issue. You're just saving yourself.

It is very effective at limiting transmission. Widespread vaccination will save thousands of lives. Also the passport, if it ever happens, likely isn't going to be like getting carded because you want to go to Walmart. It's going to big in-person events, traveling outside of the country, etc. Which usually you already need documentations for.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

At being an assmad retard you sure do

Y u mad bro.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Humoring this Munchausen outbreak does fuckall for lifting restrictions. You're getting out of your pod when you start ignoring these people. You bend over and let them require paperwork proving you took this latest goalpost move up the ass, you think that's where it's going to stop?

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

It is very effective at limiting transmission. Widespread vaccination will save thousands of lives. Also the passport, if it ever happens, likely isn't going to be like getting carded because you want to go to Walmart. It's going to big in-person events, traveling outside of the country, etc. Which usually you already need documentations for.

Politicians in several countries, including my shithole, have already flirted with the politically correct, twatter-friendly, Karen-appeasing idea of strong-arming the plebs into getting vaxed by denying public service, welfare, quarantine permissions, school, etc unless you have your vax card.