Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

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Archived version of the article; "Vaccine doubters’ strange fixation with Israel", Washington Post, By Aaron Blake, July 22, 2021: https://archive.ph/nmd0q

The most important point to take from the article is the incredibly low rate of hospitalizations and admissions to the ICU thanks to vaccines:

The most important numbers to consider, though, are not the overall case rates, but rather the serious cases. And those, too, remain extremely low — even lower than the case rates, relatively speaking.
Israel is averaging about 120 weekly hospital admissions, which is down from a peak of nearly 2,000 in January. So while cases are less than one-tenth of what they were then, hospitalizations are about one-sixteenth. And admissions to the intensive care unit are about one-twentieth, according to data collected by the University of Oxford.

Hospitalization rate in Israel (Aaron Blake/Our World in Data)
The “percent of cases that turn critically ill is now 1.6%, compared to 4% at a similar stage in the 3rd wave when there were no vaccines,” tweeted Eran Segal, a computational biologist at the Weizmann Institute of Science and government adviser.

 

[snailslime]

Haha. 16 isn't anything shameful, and she's 20 in the anime. I'm sorry nobody has ever touched your PO, particularly not young women of marriageable age. You gonna cry about incels next?

"she's not 9, she's 5000"

 

[Cool Bug Fact’s]

I'm getting the Vaxx soon. I'd rather damage my own body before someone else's if the rumors of it causing some sickness are true. I think theres been a decent ammount of time since the pandemic started.

 

[mr.moon1488]

"she's not 9, she's 5000"

>Jew with a Megumin av

 

[snailslime]

>Jew with a Megumin av

u have animals in your avatar, i bet you wanna fuck them

 

[mr.moon1488]

u have animals in your avatar, i bet you wanna fuck them

I am the animal, and I bet you want to fuck me

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Governments have killed their own citizens forever. Nazi Germany and any Communist government's a great example.

Lol at comparing this to nazi germany. Jesus christ you anti-vaxers are dramatic

There have been scientists speaking up. The subservient State and Media have smeared them, so slaves like you would consume their corporate products!

Not very many. Like I said, you are seriously gullible enough to believe 99% of scientists are lying and the 1% aren't, and the 1% aren't just grifting you anti-vaxers because you believe everything you read on the internet like a boomer.

Why would these journals publish that when they've cucked to international corporations for decades? You're either a shill, or hopelessly naive. Why don't you baaaahh for us, boy?

You are genuinely retarded if you think scientific journals are cucked to international corporations. There's plenty of ways scientists could publish their data to prove this. You're just a gullible conspiracy-believing spaz

 

[Nobue]

Lol at comparing this to nazi germany. Jesus christ you anti-vaxers are dramatic

Not very many. Like I said, you are seriously gullible enough to believe 99% of scientists are lying and the 1% aren't, and the 1% aren't just grifting you anti-vaxers because you believe everything you read on the internet like a boomer.


You are genuinely retarded if you think scientific journals are cucked to international corporations. There's plenty of ways scientists could publish their data to prove this. You're just a gullible conspiracy-believing spaz

Are you a child? The replication crisis wouldn't be a thing is the "experts" didn't have an agenda. I'm sorry life isn't the Disney movie you thought it was!

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Are you a child? The replication crisis wouldn't be a thing is the "experts" didn't have an agenda. I'm sorry life isn't the Disney movie you thought it was!

Get some mental help. Not everything is a conspiracy. Scientists know a lot more about this shit than you or your boomer uncle on Facebook. 99% of the doctors in the world are not in on a world-wide conspiracy

 

[snailslime]

Are you a child? The replication crisis wouldn't be a thing is the "experts" didn't have an agenda. I'm sorry life isn't the Disney movie you thought it was!

whats a replication crisis

 

[Nobue]

Get some mental help. Not everything is a conspiracy. Scientists know a lot more about this shit than you or your boomer uncle on Facebook. 99% of the doctors in the world are not in on a world-wide conspiracy

Get some new material. Those scientists you keep referring to have been wrong at almost every point so far, in ways that always match up with the wishes of the elites. They don't all have to be in on some conspiracy to do so, and many have objected-- only to be smeared or ignored by a media that's owned by a small group of people connected to the people wanting this.

Also, you keep doing the "x group knows more than you" thing to paint your opposition as people doing something shameful. They're not-- they suspect these guys are lying based on how wrong they've been. You can judge experts by how true their claims end up being.

whats a replication crisis

There's a problem in academia where the results of studies can't be replicated

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Get some new material. Those scientists you keep referring to have been wrong at almost every point so far, in ways that always match up with the wishes of the elites. They don't all have to be in on some conspiracy to do so, and many have objected-- only to be smeared or ignored by a media that's owned by a small group of people connected to the people wanting this.

Lol in what ways have they been wrong? And how does that benefit the elite?

Also, you keep doing the "x group knows more than you" thing to paint your opposition as people doing something shameful. They're not-- they suspect these guys are lying based on how wrong they've been. You can judge experts by how true their claims end up being.

You're the one saying 99% of scientists and doctors know there is this vast conspiracy but are afraid of speaking up. And again, in what ways have they been wrong and what is the end game of this conspiracy?

 

[mario if smoke weed]

Still not getting the vaccine... not unless I have a gun pointed to my head. I want to be as confident as possible that the government isn't planning on doing anything nefarious with the vaccines, but the Biden administration is very hard to trust. Especially when they're constantly pushing people to get the jab with threats of losing their jobs and any semblance of freedom.

Biden and his cronies (as well as the SJWs, soyboys, and others) would oppose the vaccine had Trump remained in office promoting it. They might've even tried skewing numbers and doing what they can to make it seem like vaccines are ineffective so that people don't get their dose of "Trump juice". We've seen how bad Trump Derangement Syndrome can get. Like it or not, the whole pandemic has been a partisan issue since the beginning thanks to the left and their drive to divide. It's all a matter of critical thinking.

I don't travel much and my proposed career has jobs where I can work remotely. I'm not spreading or getting a disease, so why would I need it anyways?

 

[Ponzo]

Lol in what ways have they been wrong? And how does that benefit the elite?

You're the one saying 99% of scientists and doctors know there is this vast conspiracy but are afraid of speaking up. And again, in what ways have they been wrong and what is the end game of this conspiracy?

Do you really need someone to remind you how wrong they were in the last 19 months? SARS and RNA viruses like COVID-19 have been around and studied for decades yet those people fumbled since day 1 when COVID-19 came around. "You don't need masks!" "You need masks!" "No surface spread!" "Surface spread!" "Vaccines will protect you against COVID-19!" "You can still get COVID-19 even if you are vaccinated!" "You can still transmit COVID-19 even if you are vaccinated!"

It is funny how people are shilling for the pharma industry and doctors, remind me again who was responsible for the opioid epidemic, prescribing and promoting opioids? Whos offices you walk into plastered in posters and flyers of drugs they were paid to promote?

You don't know what 99% of doctors and scientists are saying because those that speak against the approved narrative get censored. There is a reason people refuse the vaccine and if you are under a certain age you are probably more likely to have an adverse reaction to the vaccine than get severely sick from COVID-19 or even die.

And just to trigger you.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

whats a replication crisis

Replication crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Turns out when you tell everyone in the field to "publish or die" then people are going to make sure they are constantly getting published rather then sticking to scientific standards, Alot of the studies can't be replicated when tried again.

 

[Nobue]

Lol in what ways have they been wrong? And how does that benefit the elite?

You're the one saying 99% of scientists and doctors know there is this vast conspiracy but are afraid of speaking up. And again, in what ways have they been wrong and what is the end game of this conspiracy?

The vaccines don't prevent spread, don't protect users, and have a very short period where they provide protection. Masks didn't risk, lockdowns didn't work.

The hysteria destroyed the big corporations' competition and the eviction moratorium is letting them buy up all the property they can. The vaccine passports are leading to a social credit system, and the vaccine push makes money for the big corporations. That's what the elites get out of it.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The vaccines don't prevent spread, don't protect users, and have a very short period where they provide protection. Masks didn't risk, lockdowns didn't work.

The vaccines do prevent spread. I know you have crippling autism, so that makes things that aren't 0% or 100% difficult for you to understand, but they do in fact help prevent spread. They also do protect users. Parachutes aren't 100% effective, either, but I'd imagine you'd want one of those. They aren't 100% effective, which is correct, but there's a huge difference between 90% and 0%. Ask your caretaker to explain these to you next time you meet with her.

Masks work, too. Again, I know your diseased brain can't comprehend things that aren't 0% or 100%, but they do work. Lockdowns worked, too, or are you really so retarded that you can't comprehend that people not getting together slows the spread of a virus?

The hysteria destroyed the big corporations' competition and the eviction moratorium is letting them buy up all the property they can. The vaccine passports are leading to a social credit system, and the vaccine push makes money for the big corporations. That's what the elites get out of it.

Lol what do the elite benefit from a vaccine passport? Corporations make a hell of a lot more from ICU cases than from vaccines. Again, I know you are really inept at math and logic, but a $500k ICU stay is a lot more profitable than a $10 vaccine.

Do you really need someone to remind you how wrong they were in the last 19 months? SARS and RNA viruses like COVID-19 have been around and studied for decades yet those people fumbled since day 1 when COVID-19 came around. "You don't need masks!" "You need masks!" "No surface spread!" "Surface spread!" "Vaccines will protect you against COVID-19!" "You can still get COVID-19 even if you are vaccinated!" "You can still transmit COVID-19 even if you are vaccinated!"

Again, I know you are inept at and math and science. You failed high school science and have no idea how science works. This is going to blow your spaztic brain, but as new data comes in, scientists change their views on things. Again, I know that this completely blows your mind, but try and think about it.

It is funny how people are shilling for the pharma industry and doctors, remind me again who was responsible for the opioid epidemic, prescribing and promoting opioids? Whos offices you walk into plastered in posters and flyers of drugs they were paid to promote?

You don't know what 99% of doctors and scientists are saying because those that speak against the approved narrative get censored. There is a reason people refuse the vaccine and if you are under a certain age you are probably more likely to have an adverse reaction to the vaccine than get severely sick from COVID-19 or even die.

Lol You do know that there's medical journals and things, right? These same medical journals have indeed posted some things from rogue scientists. It's just that when put under peer review, their studies didn't hold up. Again, I know you are a spaz who thinks everything is a conspiracy. You also think you know stuff that 99% of doctors and scientists don't because you are narcissistic (due to your spaztic brain and your parents coddling said spaztic brain).

That's also why you were tardraging in the covid community watch thread. You're just another anti-vax conspiracy spaz from /pol/

 

[Ponzo]

The vaccines do prevent spread. I know you have crippling autism, so that makes things that aren't 0% or 100% difficult for you to understand, but they do in fact help prevent spread. They also do protect users. Parachutes aren't 100% effective, either, but I'd imagine you'd want one of those. They aren't 100% effective, which is correct, but there's a huge difference between 90% and 0%. Ask your caretaker to explain these to you next time you meet with her.

Flying planes is not 100% safe either, do you carry a parachute and demand that everyone on the plane carries a parachute so you feel safer? If im at the age group where my chance of surviving COVID-19 is in 99.8%, i really don't need the vaccine. If i had the chance to bet my money at the casino with a 99.8% chance to win, i would bet my entire life savings.



As for masks, your health officials said they do not work against the virus, including Lord Fauci, but then said they do, same for lockdowns. You know what lockdowns helped achieve? Ruin small businesses while big corporations like Walmart and Amazon cashed in. Closing down a small business hair salon while you can get your hair cut at Walmart, science right?

Lol what do the elite benefit from a vaccine passport? Corporations make a hell of a lot more from ICU cases than from vaccines. Again, I know you are really inept at math and logic, but a $500k ICU stay is a lot more profitable than a $10 vaccine.

If you want a vaccine passport, i demand to see a passport that you do not have aids or any other transmittable disease because i rather get the coof than HIV. The pfizer shot is $20, moderna $25. You know whats more profitable to hospitals? Declaring as many deaths as they can a covid death to get an estimated $39k in federal funds per patient.

Again, I know you are inept at and math and science. You failed high school science and have no idea how science works. This is going to blow your spaztic brain, but as new data comes in, scientists change their views on things. Again, I know that this completely blows your mind, but try and think about it.

"Science" changes only to a certain degree, people studies those viruses and knew the possible ways they can spread. COVID-19 did not find a new way to spread that has not been seen before, so don't tell me "Science changes". You know what never changes? Gullible retards like you that make an excuse for everything.

Lol You do know that there's medical journals and things, right? These same medical journals have indeed posted some things from rogue scientists. It's just that when put under peer review, their studies didn't hold up. Again, I know you are a spaz who thinks everything is a conspiracy. You also think you know stuff that 99% of doctors and scientists don't because you are narcissistic (due to your spaztic brain and your parents coddling said spaztic brain).

Rogue scientists? lmao.

As for peer reviewed studies. You should check when the clinical studies of those vaccines are done before anyone has the chance to review them. The earliest is done in 2022.

 

[snailslime]

Flying planes is not 100% safe either, do you carry a parachute and demand that everyone on the plane carries a parachute so you feel safer? If im at the age group where my chance of surviving COVID-19 is in 99.8%, i really don't need the vaccine. If i had the chance to bet my money at the casino with a 99.8% chance to win, i would bet my entire life savings.

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As for masks, your health officials said they do not work against the virus, including Lord Fauci, but then said they do, same for lockdowns. You know what lockdowns helped achieve? Ruin small businesses while big corporations like Walmart and Amazon cashed in. Closing down a small business hair salon while you can get your hair cut at Walmart, science right?



If you want a vaccine passport, i demand to see a passport that you do not have aids or any other transmittable disease because i rather get the coof than HIV. The pfizer shot is $20, moderna $25. You know whats more profitable to hospitals? Declaring as many deaths as they can a covid death to get an estimated $39k in federal funds per patient.



"Science" changes only to a certain degree, people studies those viruses and knew the possible ways they can spread. COVID-19 did not find a new way to spread that has not been seen before, so don't tell me "Science changes". You know what never changes? Gullible retards like you that make an excuse for everything.



Rogue scientists? lmao.

As for peer reviewed studies. You should check when the clinical studies of those vaccines are done before anyone has the chance to review them. The earliest is done in 2022.

are you this skeptical of other vaccines and did you throw a shitfit when your middle school made you show proof of a polio/chicken pox/tetanus vaccine?

 

[Ponzo]

are you this skeptical of other vaccines and did you throw a shitfit when your middle school made you show proof of a polio/chicken pox/tetanus vaccine?

Were you told you can still get and spread polio when you got the polio shot? Were you told you might need boosters every eight months for your pox vaccine?

Do you even know how long it took to get a working polio vaccine?