Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Nobue]

Except you didn't, lol. You only linked one yahoo article, about omicron, and then a bunch of conpsiracy nutjob blogs.

Also, lol at using VAERS. I've explained to you a few times why that's not reliable. You just refuse to believe Tucker Carlson is lying to you. You're a good little boomer and do whatever your GOP overlords say.

You do move the goalposts because when I destroy your claims, which isn't hard to do, you suddenly change your claims.

For example:
You: HUGE UPTICK IN SOCCER DEATHS!
Me: From your own link, there's fewer deaths in 2021 than previous years.
You: EITHER WAY THEY SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED INDEPENDENTLY!
Me: I don't think you know what uptick means, dude. Also, if they were investigated you wouldn't believe it anyway because you think you know more than doctors.
You: THERE WAS A HUGE UPTICK IN SOCCER DEATHS!

Or you claim the vaccine is killing tons of people who take it, so I used math to show that should mean there's tens of millions of deaths. Then, you say it's not actually killing that many but it's super duper dangerous still because you know more than doctors and scientists.

It's ironic how someone who is uneducated and obviously has a low IQ thinks he is onto this vast, huge conspiracy that 99% of docs and scientists are in on, which would be tens of millions of people, and would be the largest conspiracy in the history of mankind. No, a spade can't just be a spade, it's gotta be a Jewish space lazer

Tell me--what would be an acceptable source?

I thought I was still making the same claims over and over again because I can't admit I'm wrong? If anything here is moving the goalposts, it's that.

You keep doing your calculations on the assumption that the number of COVID deaths is accurate, which I've repeatedly said that I, like many other skeptics, doubt. You also act on the assumption that deaths are all that count, while ignoring injuries. You also assume deaths will be immediate, which wouldn't necessarily be the case for things life myocarditis. You also assume it has to be equally deadly for it to count.

You also seem to be arguing that the number of deaths from the vaccine have to be higher than those from COVID itself before it counts. What about groups that are at a greater risk of dangerous side effects, like young men? Why should they take their chances so that gram can have a few more weeks?

I understand VAERS isn't perfect--but with the rush to push this through at all costs, it only makes sense to be skeptical. There also doesn't have to be a huge conspiracy--most people will just do what the person above them says, then terrorize anyone below them if they ask questions. You also ignore the doctors who advised caution, at least for some people.

 

[Nobue]

Suicide baiting faggots have no value as human beings. Go jack off in your fur suit while playing a 30 year old gameboy game.

I hope he's the real Byuu hiding in the open.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Tell me--what would be an acceptable source?

How about one that isn't a conspiracy blog, an actual reputable news source? Oh, right, you don't believe those because Tucker Carlson won't agree with them and you're a good little boomer.

I thought I was still making the same claims over and over again because I can't admit I'm wrong? If anything here is moving the goalposts, it's that.

You keep doing your calculations on the assumption that the number of COVID deaths is accurate, which I've repeatedly said that I, like many other skeptics, doubt. You also act on the assumption that deaths are all that count, while ignoring injuries. You also assume deaths will be immediate, which wouldn't necessarily be the case for things life myocarditis. You also assume it has to be equally deadly for it to count.

But even a death rate of 0.25% from vaccines would mean tens of millions dead. You claim the vaccine is super duper ultra dangerous, so a death rate of 0.25% isn't unreasonable for a year after they've been started to be given.

See, again, you keep moving goal posts. You have no evidence the vaccine is killing tons of people who take it, so you just say "IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET!" like a good conspiracy believing retard.

You also seem to be arguing that the number of deaths from the vaccine have to be higher than those from COVID itself before it counts. What about groups that are at a greater risk of dangerous side effects, like young men? Why should they take their chances so that gram can have a few more weeks?

Yes? Herd immunity is important. Although your promise is wrong (shocking, I know). Even in young men, the rate of myocarditis is far higher from covid itself (a rate of 4-10x as often) than from the vaccine. I know you're inept at math, but you do know that 4-10x is higher than the number itself, right?

I understand VAERS isn't perfect--but with the rush to push this through at all costs, it only makes sense to be skeptical. There also doesn't have to be a huge conspiracy--most people will just do what the person above them says, then terrorize anyone below them if they ask questions. You also ignore the doctors who advised caution, at least for some people.

Bullshit dude. A conspiracy that involves tens of millions of people, like you claim, is not going to happen. I realize your brain is diseased from your autism, but man, you really have no idea how the real world works.

I ignore those doctors because most of them are chiropractors, PhDs in random, unrelated subjects or naturopaths. I will go with the >99% of doctors and scientists. I know you think you know more than them, but you don't.

 

[byuu]

Suicide baiting faggots have no value as human beings. Go jack off in your fur suit while playing a 30 year old gameboy game.

My death provided more entertainment than your whole life.

 

[What the shit]

My death provided more entertainment than your whole life.

Indeed. Those were the most fun couple of weeks I’ve ever had.

 

[Nobue]

How about one that isn't a conspiracy blog, an actual reputable news source? Oh, right, you don't believe those because Tucker Carlson won't agree with them and you're a good little boomer.


But even a death rate of 0.25% from vaccines would mean tens of millions dead. You claim the vaccine is super duper ultra dangerous, so a death rate of 0.25% isn't unreasonable for a year after they've been started to be given.

See, again, you keep moving goal posts. You have no evidence the vaccine is killing tons of people who take it, so you just say "IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET!" like a good conspiracy believing retard.


Yes? Herd immunity is important. Although your promise is wrong (shocking, I know). Even in young men, the rate of myocarditis is far higher from covid itself (a rate of 4-10x as often) than from the vaccine. I know you're inept at math, but you do know that 4-10x is higher than the number itself, right?


Bullshit dude. A conspiracy that involves tens of millions of people, like you claim, is not going to happen. I realize your brain is diseased from your autism, but man, you really have no idea how the real world works.

I ignore those doctors because most of them are chiropractors, PhDs in random, unrelated subjects or naturopaths. I will go with the >99% of doctors and scientists. I know you think you know more than them, but you don't.

Tucker Carlson is on a major news network. Wouldn't that make him a reputable source? Or is that not how it works when it's convenient? Name 5.

Right from the beginning, I've said it killed people AND caused other issues, some of which would be deadly later on. That's not moving the goalposts, and pointing it out to show why your argument was flawed definitely isn't.

Oddly enough, it's safe as soon as Vaccine Product is being pushed for them. You're also acting on the assumption they'll all get COVID.

I literally explained how it's not a conspiracy of millions.

Not at all. Didn't you watch that hearing a few weeks ago?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Tucker Carlson is on a major news network. Wouldn't that make him a reputable source? Or is that not how it works when it's convenient? Name 5.

Tucker Carlson is a conspiracy nutjob on the news network you retards watch, so no, he's not reliable, but you boomers love him so...

Right from the beginning, I've said it killed people AND caused other issues, some of which would be deadly later on. That's not moving the goalposts, and pointing it out to show why your argument was flawed definitely isn't.

Bullshit, you still haven't showed where these dead people are. That's because you can't. But you won't admit you can't because you're a good stubborn little GOPer.

Oddly enough, it's safe as soon as Vaccine Product is being pushed for them. You're also acting on the assumption they'll all get COVID.

What? You do know the vaccine manufacturers started production after their study data showed it was safe because of a time issue, right? Oh, wait, no you don't understand that because your diseased brain doesn't understand context.

I literally explained how it's not a conspiracy of millions.

And your explanation shows you really don't get it and just how uneducated and stupid you are. You really believe these 10s of millions of doctors and scientists are somehow both in on the conspiracy and killing their own families, but they really don't understand vaccines as well as you do, except you also then deny that you claim to know more about vaccines than they do. You can't have it both ways, son. See, another example of your uneducated, spaztic brain changing the goal posts when I've defeated you.

Not at all. Didn't you watch that hearing a few weeks ago?

What hearing? The one with the quack doctor who says demon sperm causes diseases? I guess you believe her, too, because she's a fellow conspiracy nutjob. Or was it the one with the list of "doctors" who were mostly not even medical doctors?

Again, you've already stated you won't believe any citation from any doctor or scientist or any that doesn't say VACCINE BAD. Even when pressed for evidence of these dead people, you can't give it. Instead of doing what a rational and logic person would do and say "You are right, Hulkster, maybe I should be a bit more skeptical of conspiracy nutjobs", you just doubled down. Exactly the behavior of a GOP supporting boomer.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Tucker Carlson is a conspiracy nutjob on the news network you retards watch, so no, he's not reliable, but you boomers love him so...

Based Tucker's producer was a shitposter. Compare that to CNN, where at least one senior producer is a pedophile.

What conspiracy theories does Tucker believe in? He's always come off as pretty levelheaded to me. I know it's fashionable for lefties to call him a dangerous white supremacist now but he's actually been a respected writer since he was in his twenties. Christopher Hitchens named him as his favorite conservative writer a few years before he passed.

 

[mario if smoke weed]

Tucker Carlson is on a major news network. Wouldn't that make him a reputable source?

Tucker Carlson is to FOX what Don Lemon and others are to lefty media, a rich guy benefitting off the culture war, sucking the teat of the elites. I'd take what he says with a grain of salt regardless of whether it benefits my argument. He's there to make money first and foremost.

 

[byuu]

Based Tucker's producer was a shitposter. Compare that to CNN, where at least one senior producer is a pedophile.

Tucker Carlson was a literal CNN and MSNBC journalist.
I wonder why those pedo-owned organisations gave him a job and air time.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Tucker Carlson was a literal CNN and MSNBC journalist.
I wonder why those pedo-owned organisations gave him a job and air time.

Interesting theory. Tucker is universally hated on the left now. Whatever dirt exists on him has probably already been circulated.

The fact remains that the news outlet most dedicated to spreading covid fear propaganda had an active pedophile working in a senior production role for the last 10 years.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Based Tucker's producer was a shitposter. Compare that to CNN, where at least one senior producer is a pedophile.

What conspiracy theories does Tucker believe in? He's always come off as pretty levelheaded to me. I know it's fashionable for lefties to call him a dangerous white supremacist now but he's actually been a respected writer since he was in his twenties. Christopher Hitchens named him as his favorite conservative writer a few years before he passed.

Tucker Carlson is an anti-vaxer, who is vaccinated himself. He tells gullible boomers like the right-wingers on Kiwi Farms that the vaccines are super duper ultra dangerous, while he himself is fully vaccinated. He also pushes the election fraud conspiracy theory and defends the 1/6 Qtards. He's a conman who is telling retarded right-wingers what they want to hear for $

 

[Hüftpriester]

Tucker Carlson is an anti-vaxer, who is vaccinated himself

How does this work?

He tells gullible boomers like the right-wingers on Kiwi Farms that the vaccines are super duper ultra dangerous, while he himself is fully vaccinated

I've never heard him say anything close to this. But I only watch his show when there's something big going on. Like a CNN producer being arrested by the FBI for sex crimes against minors.

He's a conman who is telling retarded right-wingers what they want to hear for $

Fair enough. At least he's not employing pedophiles like CNN. I wonder how many doomsday covid monologues John Griffin worked on over the past 2 years. He must have been really busy between selling the covid narrative and luring children to his rape dungeon.

 

[Nobue]

Tucker Carlson is a conspiracy nutjob on the news network you retards watch, so no, he's not reliable, but you boomers love him so...


Bullshit, you still haven't showed where these dead people are. That's because you can't. But you won't admit you can't because you're a good stubborn little GOPer.

What? You do know the vaccine manufacturers started production after their study data showed it was safe because of a time issue, right? Oh, wait, no you don't understand that because your diseased brain doesn't understand context.

And your explanation shows you really don't get it and just how uneducated and stupid you are. You really believe these 10s of millions of doctors and scientists are somehow both in on the conspiracy and killing their own families, but they really don't understand vaccines as well as you do, except you also then deny that you claim to know more about vaccines than they do. You can't have it both ways, son. See, another example of your uneducated, spaztic brain changing the goal posts when I've defeated you.


What hearing? The one with the quack doctor who says demon sperm causes diseases? I guess you believe her, too, because she's a fellow conspiracy nutjob. Or was it the one with the list of "doctors" who were mostly not even medical doctors?

Again, you've already stated you won't believe any citation from any doctor or scientist or any that doesn't say VACCINE BAD. Even when pressed for evidence of these dead people, you can't give it. Instead of doing what a rational and logic person would do and say "You are right, Hulkster, maybe I should be a bit more skeptical of conspiracy nutjobs", you just doubled down. Exactly the behavior of a GOP supporting boomer.

So, I see you failed to give me a list of acceptable sources just like I predicted. You won't do it because you want to be able to move the goalposts like you accuse me of doing.

"Their study" You know Pfizer keeps getting in trouble for hiding unfavorable trial results, right?

Army surgeon says military ignored her warnings over COVID-19 'vaccine injuries'

An Army surgeon testified this week that her warnings about the COVID-19 vaccine were ignored by United States military leaders, who later notified the doctor that she would no longer see sick patients. Army Lt. Col. Theresa Long, an Army flight surgeon and aviation safety officer stationed at...

americanmilitarynews.com

This hearing. I'm sure there's plenty of demon jizz. It couldn't be the media focused on one weirdo to create the illusion that all skeptics were insane, no.

So, tell me what specifically would be "showing the bodies?" Everything else about COVID has been so shady and harmful to the average person, and you think the people pushing the Vaccine Product would say it outright? It's odd they're telling us how literally everything including video games are giving people heart issues.

Tucker Carlson is to FOX what Don Lemon and others are to lefty media, a rich guy benefitting off the culture war, sucking the teat of the elites. I'd take what he says with a grain of salt regardless of whether it benefits my argument. He's there to make money first and foremost.

The Hulkster won't tell me what he'd consider a reputable source, and keeps sperging about the man.

 

[Sithis]

Tucker Carlson is an anti-vaxer, who is vaccinated himself. He tells gullible boomers like the right-wingers on Kiwi Farms that the vaccines are super duper ultra dangerous, while he himself is fully vaccinated. He also pushes the election fraud conspiracy theory and defends the 1/6 Qtards. He's a conman who is telling retarded right-wingers what they want to hear for $

You have any source on him telling people they're dangerous? Or are you just pulling more shit out of your ass and hoping everyone is too distracted to call you on it because they're too distracted by all the other retardation in this thread?

FWIW I occasionally watch Tucker still, because even though he's a hollow corpo shill, sometimes I'd rather have background noise I can chuckle along to as he shits on Pelosi or Biden. And I have not once heard him try to make the case that the vaccine itself was dangerous. In fact multiple times he's said its miraculous etc., to my own personal annoyance, because its neither "super uber dangerous" nor is it miraculous, its an only partially effective "treatment" that should have spent a few more years in the lab.

I think, like many others who have fallen too far down the leftist hole, you're either intentionally trying to shit things up or are misguidedly confusing "man blasts vax MANDATES and government fuckery" with "man says vaccines are dangerous"

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

How does this work?

He spouts anti-vax propaganda and talking points, even though he's vaccinated himself. He knows the right-wing boomers like @Nobue will watch his show

Here's one: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/s...-misrepresents-vaccine-safety-reporting-data/

You have any source on him telling people they're dangerous?

He does it pretty frequently dude. Just google it.

So, I see you failed to give me a list of acceptable sources just like I predicted. You won't do it because you want to be able to move the goalposts like you accuse me of doing.

Lol that's cute. You think conspiracy blogs are legit sources.

"Their study" You know Pfizer keeps getting in trouble for hiding unfavorable trial results, right?

No they didn't, you return. Again, you're showing how you don't know what the fuck you're talking about (a very common theme by you). The reported stuff was a very small amount of deaths, very few of which were vaccine-related. Remember, the initial phase was old geezers and high risk people. Again, I know you are inept at context, but you do know people can die after taking the vaccine that didn't die from it, right? Wait, no you don't.

Army surgeon says military ignored her warnings over COVID-19 'vaccine injuries'

An Army surgeon testified this week that her warnings about the COVID-19 vaccine were ignored by United States military leaders, who later notified the doctor that she would no longer see sick patients. Army Lt. Col. Theresa Long, an Army flight surgeon and aviation safety officer stationed at...

americanmilitarynews.com

This hearing. I'm sure there's plenty of demon jizz. It couldn't be the media focused on one weirdo to create the illusion that all skeptics were insane, no.

Wow, one of the 1% of doctors who then other doctors determined was not in her patients best interests by not having them get vaccinated. You do know that if doctors recommend care that's not best for their patients they can lose their license, right? It has to do with patient safety, not a conspiracy. Again, your spaztic brain can't fathom this, though. Everything is a conspiracy to you.

Also, lol at Ron Johnson roundtable. He's an anti-vax retard like you are.

So, tell me what specifically would be "showing the bodies?" Everything else about COVID has been so shady and harmful to the average person, and you think the people pushing the Vaccine Product would say it outright? It's odd they're telling us how literally everything including video games are giving people heart issues.

So you can't produce these dead bodies. You have zero evidence to back up your claims. You might as well claim radiation waves from Mars are killing people and not covid because it's got as much evidence backing it up as your claims do.

The Hulkster won't tell me what he'd consider a reputable source, and keeps sperging about the man.

I already did. Legit news sources, not editorials or conspiracy blogs or Bitchute videos.

You still haven't answered me why 99% of doctors and scientists would kill their own families by making them get the vaccine. And why those tens of millions of docs and scientists would be able to keep silent. You might be a cowardly little man, but out of tens of millions of docs and scientists, many would speak up.

You've already said you literally won't trust any source from a doctor or scientist. Yet you'll trust conspiracy blogs as facts You are seriously functionally retarded.

 

[Shidoen]

Alright back again and this is a real shitstorm.

 

[Sithis]

He does it pretty frequently dude. Just google it.

So by that, of course you mean "no I don't have any."
Because you don't. Asking questions like "how many people have died after the vaccines" isn't being antivax, it's being objective for fucks sake, something I'm sure that unpaid biotech shills have long since forgotten the concept of.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

So by that, of course you mean "no I don't have any."
Because you don't. Asking questions like "how many people have died after the vaccines" isn't being antivax, it's being objective for fucks sake, something I'm sure that unpaid biotech shills have long since forgotten the concept of.

I literally gave a specific link underneath it, you retard.

Here it is again since you apparently can't read:

Video: Tucker Carlson Misrepresents Vaccine Safety Reporting Data - FactCheck.org

In this video, FactCheck.org and Univision Noticias teamed up to debunk misleading statements spread by Fox News host Tucker Carlson about the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System.

www.factcheck.org

And yes, misrepresenting vaccine safety is indeed falsely claiming they are dangerous. Again, I know you're a 2020 join date so you're an autist right-wing tard so context isn't your strong suit, but you should still know better

Here's another: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/media/tucker-carlson-anti-vaccination-monologue/index.html

I know you're a good little spaz with the mindset of a 70 year old boomer due to your crippling autism, but seriously, man, Tucker is lying to you

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Hulk Hogan is one to complain about lies when he lies everyday about his involvement in 9/11