Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

i trust my immune system to do what's right, & let nature take it's course.
You know your very own immune system can kill you, right? A cytokine storm, triggered by a pathogen like Covid-19, is essentially your immune system becoming hyperreactive; leading to potential multiple organ failure.

Also, the same people that sprout that shit tend to be fat or boomer-informed, so I worry for you.

Let your potentially unable immune system deal with an unfamiliar (inb4 "muh just a common cold"; it's fucking SARS, your body has never experienced something like this before) pathogen or get a vaccine to prepare your immune system to deal with it. Decisions, decisions...
 
Although it is funny the Republicans who are tardraging about the vaccine being super duper deadly and is killing millions of people (which they haven't produced bodies of yet, mind you)
Good point, claiming millions of people were killed without strong evidence is dangerous and should be dismissed.... :^)
 
I am currently fully vaxxed as of now
before they move the goal post again
and I've honestly felt fine.

I have seen so many people brag about getting their Fauci ouchies on Twitter and I just... why? You got a shot: Good for you. This entire time, I have found pro-Covid vax people significantly more annoying than "anti-vax" people.
 
Good point, claiming millions of people were killed without strong evidence is dangerous and should be dismissed.... :^)
Yep. I know you're a Kiwi Farms right-winger so you want to prove the Holocaust didn't happen because you love your nazis and they're good boys who dindu nuffin, but there's tons of evidence that it did happen
 
Yep. I know you're a Kiwi Farms right-winger
Is that a special kind of right winger different from the others? I'm glad we're finally being recognized as our own legitimate political movement.

you want to prove the Holocaust didn't happen because you love your nazis and they're good boys who dindu nuffin, but there's tons of evidence that it did happen
Nazis? I didn't say anything about Nazis. I was talking about the Armenians, sheesh.
 
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In Nov 2021, UKHSA promised a more detailed break down to show recent numbers for pregnancy outcomes post vaccination. A monthly breakdown is what's needed. They have now published more but what they haven't published is quite telling. https://assets.publishing.service.g...047/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_47.pdf

The Nov publication included data from Jan to August and the remark "more detailed statistical analyses are planned". Every weekly publication since has included that remark but the detail has been hard to find. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports

Women that were vaccinated before April included those who were most at risk of pregnancy complications. That is the reason UKHSA give for very slightly higher numbers of premature births in the vaccinated.
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Therefore, in the more recent publication they looked separately at those who were dosed after April when women were invited based: "solely on age and not because they were considered at high risk of exposure or severe disease." https://assets.publishing.service.g...2353/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_5.pdf


There are still potential confounders e.g. socioeconomic differences. These differences have a large impact on pregnancy outcomes but, despite a culture of adjustments readily being made to make unfavourable data look favourable to the vaccine, these adjustments were never made.

Nevertheless the data presented in the latest report shows that the women who had healthy babies were just as likely to be vaccinated or not vaccinated, more likely in the older groups. https://assets.publishing.service.g...2353/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_5.pdf
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However, all the remaining graphs in the report, which show separately the risks for premature births, low birth weight babies and stillbirths, still aggregate all the data from January to October.

No data is presented for stillbirths from April to October. Stillbirths are, thankfully, uncommon. That is why they need to be looked at separately. e.g. showing a % of healthy school children would not be evidence that there is no problem with childhood leukaemia.

The BBC reported on a rise in stillbirths recently in Scotland. This illustrates well how important monthly data is to notice a change. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59347464
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It would be very odd if Scotland was seeing a phenomenon that wasn't also occuring in England. The cause is unknown, but failing to publish the data does not engender trust about: a) willingness to report a public health problem b) honest investigation of its cause.

The problem in Scotland in September may have been related partly to covid. Case numbers were higher in Sept than Jan or July according to the ONS. Surely, if covid were a problem the data should be released to educate pregnant women about covid risks. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...iruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/29october2021
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Pregnant women are being pressured to make a difficult decision on the basis of inadequate information. Noone can provide informed consent without being told the full picture.


 
Ron Johnson, a Republican Boomer nearing 70, invites fringe scientists to the Senate (for his "COVID-19: A Second Opinion" event), who push the unproven Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine "medication" IN 2022, instead of the safe and simple vaccine:

Nice to see a Republican push the idea for more medication (like Big Pharma doesn't like the idea of more of their drugs being sold), instead of the far less expensive vaccine. Also voted against Obamacare to boot.

Please, if you aren't actually a boomer, don't prematurely become one by listening to their nonsense.
 
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Ron Johnson, a Republican Boomer nearing 70, invites fringe scientists to the Senate, who push dewormer and fish tank cleaning "medication" IN 2022, instead of the safe and simple vaccine:

Nice to see a Republican push the idea for more medication (like Big Pharma doesn't like the idea of more of their drugs being sold), instead of the far less expensive vaccine. Also voted against Obamacare to boot.

Please, if you aren't actually a boomer, don't prematurely become one by listening to their nonsense.
A fringe scientist is one that doesn't have corporate or governmental endorsements. Please show me the long term data on the safety of the vaccine.

Also lol at "unproven"
 
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Glass houses and whatnot. Let's not pretend old fucks is a Republican problem, the entire American government is rife with shambling corpses.
Are you 70 years old? If not, why do you have the political views of a 70 year old? And lol at being a simp for nazis. Talk about pathetic.

A fringe scientist is one that doesn't have corporate or governmental endorsements. Please show me the long term data on the safety of the vaccine.

Also lol at "unproven"
A fringe scientist is one that the vast majority of other scientists say is full of shit. I know you are a good little Republican so you hate all education and educated people and get your medical info from boomer Facebook memes, but maybe you should listen to your doctor over PatriotMAGALover1488 on Twitter
 
Please, if you aren't actually a boomer, don't prematurely become one by listening to their nonsense.
>"dont be a boomer"
>"get ur shot to protect [boomers]"

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Glass houses and whatnot. Let's not pretend old fucks is a Republican problem, the entire American government is rife with shambling corpses.
Most of the government and corporations are run by fucking silverhairs well past their biological expiration date.
Coincidentally >94% of COVID deaths are among old people.
Really activates the almonds, doesn't it?
 
On Kiwi Farms it's hard to tell. Lots of legit nazi simps on here
Dropping the sarcasm and irony for a minute, I think you're seeing things that aren't there. I browse A&H daily and I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who is unironically a Nazi simp. Personally you have assumed my politics incorrectly many times, I think you're overly concerned with Poe's law. Outside of a couple issues like the vaccine I think most of us are on the same page, you and I are more similar than different.
 
>"dont be a boomer"
>"get ur shot to protect [boomers]"


Most of the government and corporations are run by fucking silverhairs well past their biological expiration date.
Coincidentally >94% of COVID deaths are among old people.
Really activates the almonds, doesn't it?
Ironic coming from the guy who gets educated by looking at Facebook boomer memes and has the politics and worldview of a boomer Republican
 
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