Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

[Kornula]

Their trying to incentivize people to get vaccinated, considering the amount of people getting vaccinated are slowing down, and their remains a percentage who will not get vaccinated.

If I had to guess, I think that elites are pressuring on the local and federal level to get the population vaccinated, in order to help fix the labor shortage and get people out of their houses to buy their products and services.

Unless you have an allergy or something, turning down a million dollars for a vaccine is pure retarded

Nobody needed a monetary incentive to take the Polio vaccine.

 

[Spez]

The last thing I’d do especially when I’ve seen literally 4/5 people I know get sick from it, one of them having horriffic rashes on their arms, another having a continuous cough and the worst of all one of them getting bells palsy and their face getting fucked from it.

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

I got my first shot on the 5th (Pfizer) and waiting on my second. I’m not going to pretend that I wasn’t anxious/worried about potential side effects, but I felt absolutely fine after, even well enough to hang out with a friend later that same day. The only thing that sucked was that my arm hurt like a bitch the day after, but that’s really not a big deal.
It’s normal to worry about side effects, especially with such a new and untested vaccine, but personally the studies and data I’ve seen on the serious, long-term effects Covid can have on someone’s health worries me far more. I know it’s gay and all, but I made sure to do some breathing exercises before I got mine and it helped a lot. Expecting something bad to happen can really go a long way towards convincing your brain something bad IS happening.

People I know who took the chinavax (It's from Sinovac, not to be confused with Sinopharm) are reporting the same thing. Apparently local stats are saying it's working okay, but that's so far. We're still collating, not Believing™.

Where I live it's just that or Pfizer. Soon we will get AZ (oh shit) and Cansino (also Chinese) and maybe J&J (oh fucking god no) later on. No word on Moderna...

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Like a bunch of ass bandits pozzing each other up in bareback parties, antivaxers are deliberately creating a pool of virus to increase the chance of such mutations exponentially.

Penicillium-resistant bacteria exist because we didn't use enough Penicillin, apparently.

 

[EyelessMC]

He literally has no power. And he's an advisor to a President

These two statements contradict. True, Fauci has no direct control over legislature or mandates, as if he's some Grima Wormtongue or something. However his voice is the voice of "the science". It has been from the start and that was a bipartisan and cross-media representation of him. Therefore the legislators and mainstream (and social) media defer to his PhD and position as both Director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President.

What he says and suggests holds a lot of influence on the direction everyone takes, including the President and his administration and state legislators. He's not alone in having such power (see: CDC) but he's long been and continues to be the face of it, so to speak.
Either way, getting angry about Fauci is totally justifiable and blaming him is appropriate. It's just that he doesn't bear all the blame.

Every single mask mandate, lockdown, social distancing recommendation, or whatever, has come from STATE governments, municipalities, and in some cases, private business owners making their own rules specific to their own businesses.

Yes, who ALL establish their mandates/rules and make their arrests/fines/whatever penalties against violators of said mandates/rules based on presumption of medical science as informed by the CDC, Dr. Fauci and others and on the guidelines from higher government.

As for the President having no power and how it's only up to local state governments, etc. That's not entirely true and you know it. He has the power to turn this into a bigger ordeal with overreach, or simply to penalize states which don't follow along under the guise of said states "endangering public health and welfare". He also has the power to incentivize states to follow along. Hell, we knew about the President's power to incentivize states into following along back when we learned about Common Core and Obama's rush order to make that part of public schooling.

That was just education. This is health and public safety from a pandemic.

However, neither incentive nor penalty seems needed so it's not exercised, since the vast majority of state government branches are in accord with whatever guidelines are established upon "the science", hence why they've arrested and fined people for praying together outside, force shut down churches and funerals, etc. And the businesses/private sector are very happy to go along. Whatever the science says, they'll shift and conform their rules to mirror as they see fit.

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Fact of the matter is, although there's variation between them, businesses and local governments defer to higher authority, which in turn defers to even higher authority, which itself establishes "suggestions" and guidelines ultimately given extra weight by "the science", even if said science is unscientific arbitrary inanity like double-masking or wearing masks when outdoors by yourself.

No one wants to be a Trump and get regarded as failing to safeguard public health. They don't want to be in opposition to the science. Consoling yourself with "this is what they want to do but they simply don't have that power, they're not dictators" is falsehood. They don't need to be dictators-- they have the power, and even without that the private sector and lower branches of government will enforce that supposedly absent power one way or another, collectively in their own way, even if only for their own interest or because they sincerely believe it's all scientifically founded to be in the public welfare's best interest.

ridiculous moron who was the last President

Always gotta blame the toupee wearing orange, don't you? Trump is to blame but not singularly and you know it. Bipartisan slavering and mass media hooting for Fauci is the same as ever (with Republicans infighting about it now I guess and Fox being uppity). And no, Fauci is not singularly to blame, but the guy is part of the problem and was--on both isles unto this very day--presented as the face of it.

Also God forbid it's "mainstream epidemiological science" to think wearing two masks is doubly effective for anything other than breathing your own exhale or that herd immunity is now literally everyone getting vaccinated.

antivaxers

Hop off it already

EDIT: I'm months late on this (happened back in February) but apparently the President signed an executive order and the CDC made an emergency order to both give the TSA power to enforce the federal mask mandate

So there's also that for a President who supposedly has no power to enforce such a mandate, because he's not a dictator

 

[TheRedChair]

I'll stand by my last comment. Because no one in the fucking government knows what is really going on.

Video - Anthony Bryant Logan Topic- Biden Gives Ultimatum Get Vax or Wear Max
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Joe Biden Gives ULTIMATUM: Get The Vax Or WEAR YOUR MASK!

Joe Biden has delivered an ultimatum in regards to mask-wearing and the vaccine. In a tweet, the President wrote that Americans can either get the vaccine o...

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My Reaction. This guy is okay. Not Bad.... Not good... In this video he brings up what I see are the inconsistencies of what government policy is concerning the Coof.

When government gets their act together is when I'll get my shot. I do not need of cross information of all of this going down. Until then I'll follow the procedures on what has protected me so far.

 

[FEETLOAF]

antivaxers are deliberately creating a pool of virus to increase the chance of such mutations exponentially.

*Indifferently, not deliberately. I don't want to cause mutations. I just don't give a shit if they happen.

Always gotta blame the toupee wearing orange, don't you?

I love it. Trump was overtly heavy handed on coronavirus, and wanted even more strong measures than we got. He fast tracked the vaccines, he's basically the reason they exist at all. He literally could not be more clear on his stance on Corona. Yet the narrative requires them to say he is a cuhraaaazy antivaxxer, so they'll just say he said "all these things!!!" about coronavirus and never say what they were. It's just a given. It's very creepy.

 

[AnOminous]

Penicillium-resistant bacteria exist because we didn't use enough Penicillin, apparently.

Quite literally we used too much.

 

[Erika Furudo]

I got my first shot on the 5th (Pfizer) and waiting on my second. I’m not going to pretend that I wasn’t anxious/worried about potential side effects, but I felt absolutely fine after, even well enough to hang out with a friend later that same day. The only thing that sucked was that my arm hurt like a bitch the day after, but that’s really not a big deal.
It’s normal to worry about side effects, especially with such a new and untested vaccine, but personally the studies and data I’ve seen on the serious, long-term effects Covid can have on someone’s health worries me far more. I know it’s gay and all, but I made sure to do some breathing exercises before I got mine and it helped a lot. Expecting something bad to happen can really go a long way towards convincing your brain something bad IS happening.

I know that, but:
1) Some cases were fine with dose 1, but fucked with dose 2 .
2) I've completely avoided covid for over a year without a vaccine.
3) I'm aware expecting bad things can make you think bad things are happening. But I can't exactly do breathing exercises for the long term after the vaccine. I have never had issues with needles for previous vaccinations and I even enjoyed giving blood.

I'm going to ask my boss if I need the vaccine. I have no idea whats going on atm, but there is talk of vaccine passports and AFAIK it's just for travel outside of the country, but I can see them extending things.

 

[EyelessMC]

I love it. Trump was overtly heavy handed on coronavirus, and wanted even more strong measures than we got. He fast tracked the vaccines, he's basically the reason they exist at all. He literally could not be more clear on his stance on Corona. Yet the narrative requires them to say he is a cuhraaaazy antivaxxer, so they'll just say he said "all these things!!!" about coronavirus and never say what they were. It's just a given. It's very creepy.

In this instance he was saying that the reason people see Fauci as having so much power/influence and being the go-to voice for Covid is just because of Trump talking him up to be that way, when in reality everyone talked him up that way and the broad majority still do, and his titles and position as literal chief advisor to the President does give him power/influence.

 

[FEETLOAF]

In this instance he was saying that the reason people see Fauci as having so much power/influence and being the go-to voice for Covid is just because of Trump talking him up to be that way, when in reality everyone talked him up that way and the broad majority still do, and his titles and position as literal chief advisor to the President does give him power/influence.

I open youtube and I am immediately presented with a special COVID feed of COVID videos and every single video is some influencer interviewing Fauci. I see his fucking face nonstop.

 

[EyelessMC]

I open youtube and I am immediately presented with a special COVID feed of COVID videos and every single video is some influencer interviewing Fauci. I see his fucking face nonstop.

I had forgotten about this one.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I had forgotten about this one.
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Matpat is an insufferable twat

 

[Vulva Gape]

Pandemic is over according to CDC. No more masks or social distancing by July.

You doomers are looking really dumb right now.

 

[Pina Colada]

No, and neither is my mother, at least not until the corporations get their shit together and we know the exact short/long term side effects and how effective it is against different strains. I'm young, at a very low risk, and already lived through two nasty headcolds within a span of a year (from when the news first broke out in January 2020); both may as well have been the coof. There's no point in further jeopardizing my health when I'm fine, especially since (in my mother's words) I'm in my child-bearing stage and there are no reports on pregnant women and infants- big red flag.

It doesn't help that some of our older neighbors have had very scary reactions after getting their first shots from literally "seeing red" to suddenly waving a knife around her head while cutting vegetables (thank God she didn't hurt herself). Hell, when I was temp working at a health clinic, I got two calls from a patient reporting scabs and blisters all over her vaccinated arm and another who cancelled her appointment after her daughter went to the ER when she got her J&J shot.

I've lost all faith in WHO and the CDC from flip-flopping facts, inflating numbers, and kissing Fauci's wrinkled ass as he spews BS from both ends all day, every day. And this is coming from someone who hates anti-vaxxers. Then again, it's better to be aware of what you're getting and whom you're better off getting flu shots from.
/slightly MATI

 

[EyelessMC]

I've lost all faith in WHO

Anyone who trusts the WHO after they covered China's ass and kept denying this was a pandemic, thus crippling international response early on, is--and I use this term a lot but here I really do mean it by dictionary definition--mentally retarded.

And this is coming from someone who hates anti-vaxxers. Then again, it's better to be aware of what you're getting and whom you're better off getting flu shots from.

That's not an anti-vax take, though. Only a retard lets people inject things into their bloodstream just because they have a PhD.

Anti-vax is vaccine abolition, stating that vaccines are either all poison or that they are all unnecessary. It's basically Chinese holistic medicine mumbo jumbo. Being concerned with what's inside of a vaccine is not the same as thinking vaccines are Satan's blood.

Researching your vaccines is like researching your medicine. You don't want to end up like Susan Schofield's kids because you, like those poor kids did at their munchie mother's demands, just pop whatever pills you're told. Hell, the entire reason you have a medical history that follows you to new doctors and why there's things like HIPAA is to make sure doctors know as much about you as possible so they don't just prescribe you things that can harm you. Likewise all vaccines have warning labels for this very reason, because there's retarded doctors who'd otherwise just jab a pregnant woman because "jab good, woman need good, derr"

I was horribly ill for three years, wasting away, and no one knew what was wrong with me. I finally met a professional who was younger and said, "Let's check your gallbladder". BOOM! Post surgery, it's an instant fix. I trusted all the doctors before him instead of looking deeper into it myself and each one kept shoving pills at me, even antidepressants.
A lot of people are retarded, and a lot of those retards have college degrees and doctorates. Do your own research and always ask questions, including for vaccinations. A good doctor will work with you. A bad one will wildly throw pills and needles at you.

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Obviously Sammy goes to the other extreme here but it's a funny aside to my point.

 

[UnKillFill]

So let me get this straight... Bill Maher, a covid-denying anti-vaxer if there ever was one >.> Of course I'm just kidding, I know Bill Maher is a full social justard piece of shit who literally said that he wanted the economy to collapse because it would make Drumphler look bad, who also happens to have been *fully vaccinated*, all of that only serves to make this shit even funnier had to skip his first show in decades because he somehow *still* caught the coof.

I don't suppose one of you pro-experimental jab, pro-government-dick-in-your-ass, shills would care to explain this one to me?
I know it was apparently supposed to be *my* fault for not getting said experimental jab when in like a year from now, you vaccinated people and your herd mentality immunity "unexpectedly" still caught covid, but this shit is just ridiculous. If a supposed vaccine can't even keep the vaccinated protected for a couple of months, it clearly was never a vaccine worth taking in the first place, and you were all dumb as hell for falling for it.
I guess I was right all along.

I can't wait to see how the goal posts are moved yet again once everybody realizes how much they were lied to.
I *say* that, but I bet it somehow leads to more asinine lockdowns for what is and always has been a slightly more transmissible than normal flu, with a higher than 99% survival rate for otherwise healthy people.

 

[EyelessMC]

If a supposed vaccine can't even keep the vaccinated protected for a couple of months, it clearly was never a vaccine worth taking in the first place, and you were all dumb as hell for falling for it.

To be fair it's been openly stated that the original mass produced vaccine batches are insufficient to protect against the newer strains of SARS-CoV-2. I'll repost the graph here and link to the post explaining it here (check "Edit 4")

All of the vaccine developers, including Pfizer and Moderna, were in the process of developing newer formulas of their vaccines which could protect against the original and new strains of the virus. Whatever the uber-vaxxers want to spout about their sacred mRNA vaccinations, they are not as sufficient as people claim. They objectively do not protect anyone whatsoever from the newer strains listed above.

Mind you, that was from some months ago so maybe they've updated their formulas in newer productions of the vaccines, but I don't see any posters ITT who say they got the vax mentioning that they bothered asking their doctor about it. It's important.

Bill Maher probably cut in line to get some earlier vaccine and ended up playing himself by catching a newer strain. Or his vax isn't as effective as BigPharma claims. The latter is "anti-vax" logic supposedly, but the former is straight up openly stated science. Whatever the case, he's a jackass and it's funny.

I *say* that, but I bet it somehow leads to more asinine lockdowns for what is and always has been a slightly more transmissible than normal flu, with a higher than 99% survival rate for otherwise healthy people.

Remember that Covid is already essentially being accepted to be a reoccurring annual trouble, a season danger--like the flu. mRNA vaccine developers like Moderna's CEO openly stated they are planning on producing seasonal versions of the Covid vaccine to overtake the vaccine market (for tens of billions in profit). Their investors also don't want to take a major loss like they did during the SARS outbreak.

As for future lockdowns and mask mandates, well... If Covid is seasonal and doesn't go away like the other viruses of its kind, then it would be regarded as a continual danger, thus giving the government enough reason to perpetuate these restrictions and normalize them like a viral-focused Patriot Act.
Whether they will or won't is another matter.

Just remember: Certain newer Covid strains are not defended against by current vaccines. That means that newer and newer Covid strains can keep evolving and coming about, meaning all new calls for literally every human being vaccinated every time a new strain comes along. This is because Covid is not treated like the Flu, wherein a person can simply get the vax or not. With Covid, you either get the vax or you wear a mask.
More Covid strains, more vaccines, continued masks and restrictions. Unless they say Covid has lessened in severity, this is the potential future.

 

[UnKillFill]

bullshit

Yeah no, you fucking shill. If covid has already mutated "so much" since when they first started making the vaccines until now, that they're all *already* just as worthless as they all seem to be, then that only proves that there is no reason to take the jab at all because we're all going to get covid multiple times over, from now on, no matter what we do.
And it also proves that there is no need to let experimental (and now proven to be worthless) jabs fuck with our RNA, with long term side effects that are *still* not known to anybody. Because it still doesn't prevent the coof.

Your name implies that you're eyeless, I suppose that excuses you for being blind. You're still a fucking moron though.

 

[Cliff Booth]

I'm roughly 36 hours removed from my second pfizer shot and I had a little bit of a sniffle, but no other noticeable side-effects for what it's worth.