🌟 Internet Famous Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

[BigRed]

Fair point, but so was Suzy, but at least she never got this much attention on the show and controlled this much; at best, she was their "secretary" or some shit. Her drama for the most part was always stuff that happened outside of the show, or was at least somewhat contained. Now I'm just sitting here wondering what exactly happened between then and now where his new Yoko Ono employee is both front-and-center (despite everyone saying how much they hate her and despite Grumps still somehow being terrible at ACTUAL communication), and somehow is able to simultaneously be a social media manager, a producer, a director, a person who picks out their games, an honorary third Grump, a director, and a writer on all of their current projects, and fail and all of this in less than three months.

I know why it's happening, doesn't make these decisions any less confusing. Like Arin's only listening and following her advice out of spite.

I think there's a combination of factors at play in the difference between how Suzy was handled and how Allie's being handled:

1. Arin openly detests the fanbase now when he used to not, the Phoenix Wright finale put the final nail in that. I think it's possible that when the fanbase was against Suzy, Arin took that to heart and phased her out a bit. Now he doesn't give enough of a shit to change in response to criticism.
2. Suzy may have been a bit more hurt and stepped out on her own. She's made it pretty clear she doesn't like how hateful the fanbase was towards her when she was more involved, and she may have personally made the decision to stop being as big a part of Grumps.
3. Allie is an actual employee, while I'm not certain Suzy ever really was. It's possible she was properly on payroll during that short period of time around GrumpCade where she was a "Grump" on the same level as Barry, but for most of the history of Game Grumps, she's just been "Arin's wife/girlfriend." Allie has a job title and a salary and all of the responsibilities that come with that.

 

[iScreamMan]

It would make sense from these revelations about Dan as to why he just sits back and lets Arin slowly destroy the channel. If he were to jump ship or even try and give the idiot a reality check, Arin would definitely be vengeful enough to drop the details of his sordid sex life.

It's such an easy paycheck every week that I can't see Dan leaving the show unless he gets the opportunity to do some huge tour. Or if the public image of the Grumps is thrown so thoroughly through the mud that they're forced to call it quits. I don't know about either of those things happening, their dicksuckers have stuck with them through thick and thin. Plus Dan avoids almost any instance of confrontation with his boss that comes up.

Dan really isn't a good live performer, he's a studio musician. Even then, his abilities are pretty shakey and he hasn't picked up a real bass guitar in years. He tends to shout a lot of his lines and hides it behind several vocal harmonies. Doubling vocal tracks is a pretty standard practice in the industry, but Dan does it so excessively that it's all I'm paying attention to when I listen to his music. Dude can't carry a tune on his own for shit, let alone lead a national tour.
I'll say this, at least Dan continues to chase his childhood dreams instead of falling back on Grumps all the time like Arina has. Though without his co-host and Ninja Brian, Danny really wouldn't amount to much.

The show will probably end entirely due to dwindling views before he leaves. Allie sure as fuck wouldn't get them views if she stepped up to take Dan's place. The real fun begins when Grumps ends and Arina goes off the deep end. Maybe she'll start streaming? Who knows, but I'll be there with my popcorn when it happens. The proverbial clock is ticking.
It's a damn shame Arina alienated every friend they could've had on the show to replace Dan. It's like true pottery.

 

[BigRed]

It's such an easy paycheck every week that I can't see Dan leaving the show unless he gets the opportunity to do some huge tour. Or if the public image of the Grumps is thrown so thoroughly through the mud that they're forced to call it quits. I don't know about either of those things happening, their dicksuckers have stuck with them through thick and thin. Plus Dan avoids almost any instance of confrontation with his boss that comes up.

It really is a dream job. He can dick around on his phone the whole time other than the live skit shit they do on The Grumps. So he actually has to pay attention to his job for less than five hours a week? I'll take that any day.

 

[Pizza Box]

That just hurts dude.

Dan’s gonna make a cover of this song eventually I fucking know it. If this happens someone owes me 100 dollars.

If he does that, I wil

It really is a dream job. He can dick around on his phone the whole time other than the live skit shit they do on The Grumps. So he actually has to pay attention to his job for less than five hours a week? I'll take that any day.

If I can sit on a couch, browse Twitter/Facebook/Reddit while someone else plays a video game and get paid for it, I'd happily take that role. I can muster up different conversation topics to a crowd of 12 year old snoteaters.

 

[Jaded Optimist]

 

[MahFibro!]

Fair point, but so was Suzy, but at least she never got this much attention on the show and controlled this much; at best, she was their "secretary" or some shit. Her drama for the most part was always stuff that happened outside of the show, or was at least somewhat contained. Now I'm just sitting here wondering what exactly happened between then and now where his new Yoko Ono employee is both front-and-center (despite everyone saying how much they hate her and despite Grumps still somehow being terrible at ACTUAL communication), and somehow is able to simultaneously be a social media manager, a producer, a director, a person who picks out their games, an honorary third Grump, a director, and a writer on all of their current projects, and fail and all of this in less than three months.

I know why it's happening, doesn't make these decisions any less confusing. Like Arin's only listening and following her advice out of spite.

Allie's responsible for all these new changes? Really?

Well, he did say he made Game Grumps into a business out of spite; so keeping Allie on the payroll (Hell, even promoting her to positions that she clearly doesn't have any experience in) out of spite is just par of the course when it comes to Arin Hanson.

Some folks on the reddit speculate he's deliberately sabotaging Game Grumps so he can put an end it it without looking like he's just giving up outright and their whole 'trying out new things' is just an illusion to make it look like they're trying everything to save the show. Worse come to worse and none of it helps, Arin can fall back on his ever present 'Youtube Algorithm' excuse (or throw Allie under the bus because she's the one who - apparently - made all these self sabotaging decisions).

 

[Shazamtrios]

I feel like anyone who has to deal with Arin would have a rough time. He is very entitled and seems to not listen to feedback at all. He would rather die on his hill than look at another perspective. Examples of this are his now infamous fit about Pelo’s stupid animation, or his less infamous “Video games are a chore” bit. Or, his newest one where instead of trying to enjoy his job or help the viewer enjoy the lp experience, he attacks the fans for his dwindling views because he is bad at creating content. You would need someone who is stern enough to slap Arin on the wrist (not literally) and tell him “No.” Allie doesn’t do that, if anything she seems to just go along with what Arin does. Which is a bad business model, especially since let’s plays are now an over saturated product. What does he bring in specifically? What does Dan bring in? They are a recognizable brand now but that doesn’t mean it is good content. Look at all the people crying about pokémon and all the people buying it solely due to it being a brand they recognize. Then you have The Grumps channel which is... reliant on recognizing Arin and Danny. Otherwise it isn’t that good?
What I’m trying to say is Game Grumps needs someone who can tell Arin “No, this is not good content, cut this, drop this series, why did you say that, why did you do that?” Arin should have made his personal twitter private so he isn’t made fun of constantly for his stupid takes on everything. Then you have the whole response to Danny getting with younger fans. Which is no response.
Allie you can’t just smooch Arin behind the scenes or whatever it is you do. You need to tell him to stop killing his brand.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Allie you can’t just smooch Arin behind the scenes or whatever it is you do. You need to tell him to stop killing his brand.

"The brand isn't being killed, you're just being entitled."
EDIT: [YOUR COMMENT HAS BEEN BANNED UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF ALLIE, THE ALTRUISTIC PERFECT GRUMP]

 

[iScreamMan]

I feel like anyone who has to deal with Arin would have a rough time. He is very entitled and seems to not listen to feedback at all.

That's why Dan's the best parasite that Arina could ever have.
"This GAME SUCKS DICK!!!"
"Hahaha, good one Arin!"
The Grumps are constantly walking eggshells. Danny almost never argues with Arin's horseshit contrarian opinions because Danny doesn't know anything about video games besides the NES and Elder Scrolls. He sits on his phone, lets his co-host deal with anything video game related and just nods his head to everything his boss does. I agree with you wholeheartedly, they need to seriously sit down and figure out why people respond so negatively to their content and their brand. As if it weren't obvious, right?
They think they can shit content out without being familiar with a game at all. They skip all the directions, wander aimlessly in silence and then do awful voices for all of the characters. Say what you will about the Jontron-era, I really don't think some of those videos held up super well, but a lot of people like them because Arin and Jon were personalities that clashed a lot with one another. Grumps would actually discuss game design, riff off of what was happening on the screen and TAKE TURNS playing. Barry was a good editor that would trim out all the extra fat that modern grumps is composed entirely of (both physically and metaphorically).
I really don't believe Arin appreciated that, which is why he has his current army of yes-men. He doesn't like being around people that challenge him or his gross lifestyle.

I don't know if I could say that Arin's sabotaging the show on purpose when he has so many of his "friends" on pay-roll. He could try out different styles of content. He could fix Grumps by taking a few more hours to record every week. Maybe start familiarizing himself with what he's going to play on the channel.
I don't think long-style videos are a bad idea, but their scheduling is always so shit. They need to humble up and let their humor start happening naturally, but I think they'll just continue down this path. Funny how Arin's biggest downfall so far has been his ego.

 

[BigRed]

He could fix Grumps by taking a few more hours to record every week. Maybe start familiarizing himself with what he's going to play on the channel.

That will never happen because Arin hates playing games. He enjoys the surrounding nerd culture and the aesthetic, but any part of him that enjoyed playing video games died around the early days of Dan-era Grumps. Unfortunately, he's locked himself into identifying as a "gamer," probably since the Awesome series. I seriously wonder if he's trying to kill off Game Grumps slowly and eventually have The Grumps be a multimedia company sort of deal with their variety content/NSP/Dream Daddy/etc. They'd lose viewers, but I can't help but think the content might be better if he genuinely enjoys it.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

[...] I seriously wonder if he's trying to kill off Game Grumps slowly and eventually have The Grumps be a multimedia company sort of deal with their variety content/NSP/Dream Daddy/etc. They'd lose viewers, but I can't help but think the content might be better if he genuinely enjoys it.

I don't think that's a viable route.

NSP popularity is likely to wane (if it hasn't already) when fans get tired of every song being the same joke. Alternatively, the fans could turn on Dan on abandon NSP if the allegations of Dan being a cunt and abusive are true.

Dream Daddy was a flash in the pan "success" because it capitalized on being woke, and nobody even so much as thinks about it at all anymore. You can't profit from dead ends, and a sequel will result in identical or lesser results as it's not going to be new anymore. I also doubt the team that made the game would be able to make something with more staying power.

Not sure what other avenues they have available, but that sinking ship will eventually capsize.

 

[iScreamMan]

That will never happen because Arin hates playing games. He enjoys the surrounding nerd culture and the aesthetic, but any part of him that enjoyed playing video games died around the early days of Dan-era Grumps. Unfortunately, he's locked himself into identifying as a "gamer," probably since the Awesome series. I seriously wonder if he's trying to kill off Game Grumps slowly and eventually have The Grumps be a multimedia company sort of deal with their variety content/NSP/Dream Daddy/etc. They'd lose viewers, but I can't help but think the content might be better if he genuinely enjoys it.

Arin has had so many P.R. and management problems under the Game Grumps that I have little to no faith in his ability to lead an entire media company. I think a lot of lovelies just want him to start acting like Arin Hanson when he's on camera and not play some sort of character all the time, fake-rage included. Their content would become more inoffensive and not worth shitting over all of the time.

I'll give him this, he's done a nice job at helping his friends pursue and fund their passions. He's exceptionally nice to the people in his life, to a fault, but simultaneously doesn't know how to compose himself as an online creator. I've never seen someone with such a disdain for his audience, it genuinely boggles my mind. I couldn't believe what I was watching with the recent Phoenix Wright playthrough. He needs his computer, social media and camera taken away from him for a year. I think he might benefit from that a lot.

 

[Slowpoke Sonic]

I’m sorry I am still trying to understand how his new grounds stuff was the most inspired stuff on the website?
His stuff was bad even back then.
I guess it’s a nostalgia filter?

I think it's because how Newgrounds was really popular back then and there wasn't any much political correctness on the internet.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Honestly I barely remember him on newgrounds. I remember Ultimate Showdown and thats it

 

[iScreamMan]

Honestly I barely remember him on newgrounds. I remember Ultimate Showdown and thats it

What I find so amusing about everything is the fact that most of the influential creators from Newgrounds ended up with legitimate industry work, while Egoraptor's kinda been left in the dust. I think the guy that made that Ultimate Showdown cartoon chose to lay low as far as net presence goes. I can't find much about him, probably for the better. The best part of that video was really the song.

 

[Mr. Idiot]

Haven't kept up with this thread for about a long time since 5 months, anything of interest happened or is it still Arin being pissy at fan feedback and Danny being his yes-man?

 

[FakeishNamedicoot]

Haven't kept up with this thread for about a long time since 5 months, anything of interest happened or is it still Arin being pissy at fan feedback and Danny being his yes-man?

You're pretty much caught up. But NOW dan is also slowly being recognized as some kind of weird sex pervert. Allie is essentially the shot caller. The divide between Arin and newgrounds grows further. I forget when they introduced so you might already know about the new channel "The Grumps".

Basically Jon is still winning, oney and co are becoming the new funny guys from newgrounds that play vidya and make you laugh on the block, and arin is still incompetent.

Not sure what all I missed. You got any pokemon cards you don't need?

 

[Billy "the Bot" Bobson]

You're pretty much caught up. But NOW dan is also slowly being recognized as some kind of weird sex pervert. Allie is essentially the shot caller. The divide between Arin and newgrounds grows further. I forget when they introduced so you might already know about the new channel "The Grumps".

Basically Jon is still winning, oney and co are becoming the new funny guys from newgrounds that play vidya and make you laugh on the block, and arin is still incompetent.

Not sure what all I missed. You got any pokemon cards you don't need?

Don't forget that Allie is also likely in a relationship with Arin as he has more recent pictures with her than Suzy and phoned in his own anniversary. He also wasn't invited to Jons wedding and made a passive-aggressive swipe about it by posting a wedding pic or something.

 

[Floop]

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Jungle Jimmy probably browses the farms lol. Hey Jimmy!

 

[ShittyRecolor]

It's such an easy paycheck every week that I can't see Dan leaving the show unless he gets the opportunity to do some huge tour. Or if the public image of the Grumps is thrown so thoroughly through the mud that they're forced to call it quits. I don't know about either of those things happening, their dicksuckers have stuck with them through thick and thin. Plus Dan avoids almost any instance of confrontation with his boss that comes up.

Dan really isn't a good live performer, he's a studio musician. Even then, his abilities are pretty shakey and he hasn't picked up a real bass guitar in years. He tends to shout a lot of his lines and hides it behind several vocal harmonies. Doubling vocal tracks is a pretty standard practice in the industry, but Dan does it so excessively that it's all I'm paying attention to when I listen to his music. Dude can't carry a tune on his own for shit, let alone lead a national tour.
I'll say this, at least Dan continues to chase his childhood dreams instead of falling back on Grumps all the time like Arina has. Though without his co-host and Ninja Brian, Danny really wouldn't amount to much.

The show will probably end entirely due to dwindling views before he leaves. Allie sure as fuck wouldn't get them views if she stepped up to take Dan's place. The real fun begins when Grumps ends and Arina goes off the deep end. Maybe she'll start streaming? Who knows, but I'll be there with my popcorn when it happens. The proverbial clock is ticking.
It's a damn shame Arina alienated every friend they could've had on the show to replace Dan. It's like true pottery.

Oh yeah, I remember Dan getting pretty salty over people comparing his overdubs to auto-tune, arguing it's different because the vocalist has to do more work for overdubbing than for auto-tuning. As you've pointed out though, Dan abuses overdubs to Hell and back in order to hide his otherwise lacking vocals, which is ironically the very reason so many people dislike auto-tune. It's gonna bite him in the ass on tour, as it's pretty difficult to compensate for the lack of harmonization live without backup singers\musicians.

It's kinda sad, Dan was a passable vocalist in a trashy-grungy-indie rock sort of way back in his Northern Hues\Skyhill days, but it doesn't sound like he's put any effort into improving his singing skills or maintaining his voice, and it shows in his steadily deteriorating vocals.