🌟 Internet Famous Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

[Tanner Glass]

All you need to live comfortably as a content creator is 1000 people willing to give you 40 bucks a month.

That's $40,000/month (or nearly half a million a year) - that's well beyond living comfortably.

All you really need is a decent brand and forward momentum - you can get by with 100 people throwing you 20 bucks a month as long as you've got some ad revenue coming in as well.

 

[BubbleButt]

That's $40,000/month (or nearly half a million a year) - that's well beyond living comfortably.

All you really need is a decent brand and forward momentum - you can get by with 100 people throwing you 20 bucks a month as long as you've got some ad revenue coming in as well.

I guess that's fair.

 

[kirua]

Having caught up with this thread, it's amazing how far he's fallen into being the personification of the "how do you do, fellow kids" meme. What a sad, dwindling career, only punctuated by selling out. The chemistry with his co-host has been almost non-existent for years and is even more apparent in videos where they collab with other duos.

Sidenote: I always found it funny how his most annoying bits have been ones he's stolen from the Supermega boys and then proceeded to run into the ground, to the point where they stopped making those jokes entirely.

 

[VictimizedMinch]

denote: I always found it funny how his most annoying bits have been ones he's stolen from the Supermega boys and then proceeded to run into the ground, to the point where they stopped making those jokes entirely.

If people could sue for stealing and murdering jokes Super Mega would have retired by now.
Hasn't Danny stolen half of his good/funny stories too?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

A company this overstaffed should not need outside help to fix problems that they shouldn't be having in the first place.

You're talking about Game Grumps dude. Incompetency is their middle name.

This shit kills me. I don't care if you think someone is/isn't male/female/trans, if the creator said they're X, then they are X. Shut up and stop virtue signalling to make yourself look better than the author, nobody gives two shits.

Correction: nobody NORMAL gives two shits. SJWs are not normal. They're degenerate.

 

[kirua]

If people could sue for stealing and murdering jokes Super Mega would have retired by now.
Hasn't Danny stolen half of his good/funny stories too?

Yeah, from urban dictionary, movies, ex-girlfriends, etc. You'd think being an ex-homeless, successful, and touring member of a band he'd have more material of his own.

 

[VictimizedMinch]

Yeah, from urban dictionary, movies, ex-girlfriends, etc. You'd think being an ex-homeless, successful, and touring member of a band he'd have more material of his own.

He's told a few stories reguarding his history with weed, struggling to make his dream job a success and made fun of his father. Just feels like he used them all up within his first three years on the show.

 

[Campbell-Duo]

He's told a few stories reguarding his history with weed, struggling to make his dream job a success and made fun of his father. Just feels like he used them all up within his first three years on the show.

Oneyplays just put out a compilation of stories told on the show and its shocking how much more real (cause they are) they sound compared to arin and dan telling stories now.

 

[Local Wordmason]

Found an interesting reddit thread on Rantgrumps questioning the charity that is run by Arin's mom and the money he raised for her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/kguvcj/illegal_or_at_least_unethical/

Spoiler: OP

K, this has been an issue of mine with big-named creators for a while, not exclusive to Arin, but I digress.

While it is awesome to see big-named people creating some form of charity event, I find it misleading.

Arin has recently made another charity stream, the target of said charity, none other than once again his mother's organization.

Note that I do not know the details of how the relationship between a governement and charity organizations work nor do I know whether or not her organization is getting any government funding.

But here is what I do see...

Arin posts and asks people to donate to the charity in exchange for funny man antics on the internet, ok. But the donation link leads straight to "Game Grumps" not whatever the organization's name is.

That being said, anyone could say "oh, but they are then giving 100% of the proceeds to the charity" to which I am sure you are correct.

HOWEVER

Whenever someone donates money to a charity, usually you are given some sort of receipt as proof of your donation which could then be used to give to the government during tax season as a deductible. As far as I know, you are not given a receipt that means anything (it would just show that you gave money to Game Grumps).

This little loophole makes me uncomfortable because what is stopping Arin from then donating said money to the organization and pocketing all dem sweet-sweet tax deductions as if the donations were his own? Which in turn generates income for his company?

While I have had discussions with other people about other people's charity events, the arguments I often get are:

"But then that money could be again used to generate more money for the charity!"

"They are giving money to charity, why are you being a party pooper?"

"It's my money, I can do what I want with it!"

Let me be clear on my stance on the matter.

1. This is a charity that is run by a family member of Arin's.
2. I have yet to see other charities that they have done this for, I'm sure they have, but this one is the ONLY one he ever talks about publicly. (Yes, he donated to MatPat's charity, but that was legitimately HIS money that he donated, not someone else's)
3. I do not know of the legality of this procedure, I feel it is at least manipulative and unethical, to take someone else's money and claim it as your own donation and gain from it in the process, especially when the catch is: "Donate to this charity" when you are actually donating to Arin directly.
4. Why not just leve a donation link to give directly to said charity so the person donating at least can A ) guarantee that the money is going where they say it would go. B ) say someone donates a large sum of money to a charity, that person should be entitled to the tax deductions.

I lost interest in typing more

Tl;dr I feel Arin manipulates everything involving money to benefit himself despite trying to benefit others. Take one good look at any of their current GG videos and you will be greeted with an ad almost every 3 minutes, which is honestly fucked.

Spoiler: comments with some legwork

"I mean, that's pretty much exactly what's happening."

"He gets to raise tax free income for his mom and also get a tax deduction for it at the same time.

The charity last I checked, also stopped submitting public records once Arin started doing events for them.

Here is the Charity Navigator page for Healing Horse Therapy Centre. There's nothing on this page that suggests that the company "stopped submitting public records"; it's just that the website itself only has the company's IRS 990 forms up until 2014. A search through the IRS records for tax exempt organizations shows a record of their 990-N forms for the years 2016 and 2018. The website states that the 990-N e-Postcard filing is for "organizations that receive less than $50,000".

What's interesting here is that the company is registered as having "Gross receipts not greater than $25,000" for both 2016 and 2018. The IRS defines "gross receipts" as "The total amounts the organization received from all sources during its annual accounting period, without subtracting any costs or expenses". What's strange here is that 2016 was the year when Arin and Dan ran a Horse-themed fundraising stream that claimed to have raised over $68k for HHTC. Perhaps I'm not understanding something here, but this seems to be quite a discrepancy?

On both Charity Navigator and the IRS website, the company is recorded as having "less than $50,000 annual revenue", but this seems to be contradicted by the 2016 charity and by this week's charity, which (according to Arin) raised over $86k. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something here; I'm not American so my knowledge of the U.S. tax system is limited. But at first glance this seems to be a contradiction, right?"

I'm not very familiar with their charity streams but this seems like it may have something fun beneath the surface. Also I'm lazy and don't feel like pouring over the entire thread and archive it all.

Edit I changed things so theyre a bit more readable

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Found an interesting reddit thread on Rantgrumps questioning the charity that is run by Arin's mom and the money he raised for her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/kguvcj/illegal_or_at_least_unethical/

Spoiler: OP

K, this has been an issue of mine with big-named creators for a while, not exclusive to Arin, but I digress.

While it is awesome to see big-named people creating some form of charity event, I find it misleading.

Arin has recently made another charity stream, the target of said charity, none other than once again his mother's organization.

Note that I do not know the details of how the relationship between a governement and charity organizations work nor do I know whether or not her organization is getting any government funding.

But here is what I do see...

Arin posts and asks people to donate to the charity in exchange for funny man antics on the internet, ok. But the donation link leads straight to "Game Grumps" not whatever the organization's name is.

That being said, anyone could say "oh, but they are then giving 100% of the proceeds to the charity" to which I am sure you are correct.

HOWEVER

Whenever someone donates money to a charity, usually you are given some sort of receipt as proof of your donation which could then be used to give to the government during tax season as a deductible. As far as I know, you are not given a receipt that means anything (it would just show that you gave money to Game Grumps).

This little loophole makes me uncomfortable because what is stopping Arin from then donating said money to the organization and pocketing all dem sweet-sweet tax deductions as if the donations were his own? Which in turn generates income for his company?

While I have had discussions with other people about other people's charity events, the arguments I often get are:

"But then that money could be again used to generate more money for the charity!"

"They are giving money to charity, why are you being a party pooper?"

"It's my money, I can do what I want with it!"

Let me be clear on my stance on the matter.

1. This is a charity that is run by a family member of Arin's.
2. I have yet to see other charities that they have done this for, I'm sure they have, but this one is the ONLY one he ever talks about publicly. (Yes, he donated to MatPat's charity, but that was legitimately HIS money that he donated, not someone else's)
3. I do not know of the legality of this procedure, I feel it is at least manipulative and unethical, to take someone else's money and claim it as your own donation and gain from it in the process, especially when the catch is: "Donate to this charity" when you are actually donating to Arin directly.
4. Why not just leve a donation link to give directly to said charity so the person donating at least can A ) guarantee that the money is going where they say it would go. B ) say someone donates a large sum of money to a charity, that person should be entitled to the tax deductions.

I lost interest in typing more

Tl;dr I feel Arin manipulates everything involving money to benefit himself despite trying to benefit others. Take one good look at any of their current GG videos and you will be greeted with an ad almost every 3 minutes, which is honestly fucked.

I'm not very familiar with their charity streams but this seems like it may have something fun beneath the surface. Also I'm lazy and don't feel like pouring over the entire thread and archive it all.

Archive.
Also, your quotes are borked, you only get the first bit of the second one. Quotes don't work when in spoilers because of their collapsible nature.

 

[KinoCiudățel]

Found an interesting reddit thread on Rantgrumps questioning the charity that is run by Arin's mom and the money he raised for her.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rantgrumps/comments/kguvcj/illegal_or_at_least_unethical/

Spoiler: OP

K, this has been an issue of mine with big-named creators for a while, not exclusive to Arin, but I digress.

While it is awesome to see big-named people creating some form of charity event, I find it misleading.

Arin has recently made another charity stream, the target of said charity, none other than once again his mother's organization.

Note that I do not know the details of how the relationship between a governement and charity organizations work nor do I know whether or not her organization is getting any government funding.

But here is what I do see...

Arin posts and asks people to donate to the charity in exchange for funny man antics on the internet, ok. But the donation link leads straight to "Game Grumps" not whatever the organization's name is.

That being said, anyone could say "oh, but they are then giving 100% of the proceeds to the charity" to which I am sure you are correct.

HOWEVER

Whenever someone donates money to a charity, usually you are given some sort of receipt as proof of your donation which could then be used to give to the government during tax season as a deductible. As far as I know, you are not given a receipt that means anything (it would just show that you gave money to Game Grumps).

This little loophole makes me uncomfortable because what is stopping Arin from then donating said money to the organization and pocketing all dem sweet-sweet tax deductions as if the donations were his own? Which in turn generates income for his company?

While I have had discussions with other people about other people's charity events, the arguments I often get are:

"But then that money could be again used to generate more money for the charity!"

"They are giving money to charity, why are you being a party pooper?"

"It's my money, I can do what I want with it!"

Let me be clear on my stance on the matter.

1. This is a charity that is run by a family member of Arin's.
2. I have yet to see other charities that they have done this for, I'm sure they have, but this one is the ONLY one he ever talks about publicly. (Yes, he donated to MatPat's charity, but that was legitimately HIS money that he donated, not someone else's)
3. I do not know of the legality of this procedure, I feel it is at least manipulative and unethical, to take someone else's money and claim it as your own donation and gain from it in the process, especially when the catch is: "Donate to this charity" when you are actually donating to Arin directly.
4. Why not just leve a donation link to give directly to said charity so the person donating at least can A ) guarantee that the money is going where they say it would go. B ) say someone donates a large sum of money to a charity, that person should be entitled to the tax deductions.

I lost interest in typing more

Tl;dr I feel Arin manipulates everything involving money to benefit himself despite trying to benefit others. Take one good look at any of their current GG videos and you will be greeted with an ad almost every 3 minutes, which is honestly fucked.

I'm not very familiar with their charity streams but this seems like it may have something fun beneath the surface. Also I'm lazy and don't feel like pouring over the entire thread and archive it all.

Does anyone remember this quote?

r/rantgrumps - "Arin's done some illegal things when it comes to money." - I'm sorry, what?!

315 votes and 107 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

Master Sword, who had been connected with the grumps content creation and done remixes for them, said that "Arin's done some illegal things when it comes to money."
Could this be what he was talking about? I certainly wouldn't be surprised if this is just the tip of the iceberg with how money-obsessed Arin is.

Also:

What's strange here is that 2016 was the year when Arin and Dan ran a Horse-themed fundraising stream that claimed to have raised over $68k for HHTC. Perhaps I'm not understanding something here, but this seems to be quite a discrepancy?

So either Arin is skimming money off the top, or his mum is committing fraud, or both. All the while he could be tax deducting other people's donations. I really think he has some answering to do for himself. In all honesty this seems pretty damming to me. It will be interesting to watch how this unfolds, or if there are any consequences.

Edit:
Two archives of the grumps and Vernon tweeting about raising over 65k and 68k respectively for the HHTC

https://archive.md/ScLhE

https://archive.md/0fkiQ

 

[scathefire]

I just thought I'd share this compilation that exists for... some reason

 

[BubbleButt]

You've heard of the 2 minutes hate, now try the 8 minutes gay

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Alongside the charity shit, we've got one of the animators for the Grumps' official channel, Sherbies, talking on RantGrumps about their disillusionment to the Grumps, as well as revealing that Game Grumps apparently underpays their animators, and him having to accept the pay because they were incredibly poor at the time despite other animators in the field telling him that that's WAY too low a payment for a 2-minute animation.

Here's the animations they worked on:

Spoiler: From A Game Grumps Animator

I'm hoping I don't get a lot of shit from posting in here, but we'll see I guess.

I got into Game Grumps in late 2014 with their Trauma Center playthrough, and I've been a huge fan of theirs through late 2019. (I mean I know I made the Pantsu Hunter animation in 2020, but it was a moment from 2019 Grumps that I loved.) Then they started trying SO much harder to please the algorithm by making weirder titles, getting rid of the numbered episodes, and getting rid of the Grump heads. Plus, their playthroughs this year really haven't...felt right to me. Like the only recent things from them that I loved were the House Party playthroughs that had them as in-game characters. I don't know if it's because I'm in the middle of a depressive episode right now where almost nothing brings me joy anymore, but it's really disheartening after their older content had gotten me through so much shit throughout the years.

At a bout of morbid curiosity, I looked through this subreddit after reading through a bunch of Chihiro gender discourse in the regular Grumps subreddit (stemming from Arin's morally divisive way about treating it). And I found a lot of info on here which is...really disappointing to say the least. Like the whole thing about Ben being a pedophile that's still somehow working for the Grumps and Dan's pump n' dump treatment of (legal but still) younger fans.

It also doesn't really help that I didn't realize until later that they weren't really paying me enough for the animations I made for them. I told my animator friends how much I got paid from doing them, and they all said, "That is waaaaaay too low for an animator to be making for almost 2 minutes of content." I guess before that, I thought it was a lot because I'm really poor in general so any amount of new money was good money. But in hindsight, it does feel kind of unfair now that I think about it.

I don't know if I'll keep animating for the Grumps in the future or not, but I don't want this to come off as me cutting them completely out of my life or anything, or "biting the hand that feeds me" or whatever. I don't want this post to ruin my relationship with the Grumps or anything, especially if it means ruining any chance of other possible connections in the future. None of this can take away from the joy that the Grumps gave me from 2014-2019. I'm really thankful for the Grumps for helping my career out. I just want them to get better, from a fan's perspective. That's all.

EDIT: We also have a concrete answer as to how much they pay their animators and the requirements for animations on the channel:
- New animators get paid $800 flat rate
- Returning animators get paid $1000 flat rate per video
And that's it. They get no shared revenue off of the videos, that all goes to the Grumps. They do get a 1099 form so at least it's not covered as a personal expense and actually shows up on Grumps' financial information, but still.

Regardless of status, each animator also gets a flat 1 1/2 month deadline per video, regardless of length (which for a 2 minute animation is an absurdly low amount of time to make something).
EDIT 2: Got the animator wrong: fixed it.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

Alongside the charity shit, we've got one of the animators for the Grumps' official channel, Sherbies, talking on RantGrumps about their disillusionment to the Grumps, as well as revealing that Game Grumps apparently underpays their animators, and him having to accept the pay because they were incredibly poor at the time despite other animators in the field telling him that that's WAY too low a payment for a 2-minute animation.

Here's the animations they worked on:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W47utqrKqjAhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=1JhJ241dJ_ghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_3L4EqFpbo0https://youtube.com/watch?v=li5j8_WnbLU

Spoiler: From A Game Grumps Animator

I'm hoping I don't get a lot of shit from posting in here, but we'll see I guess.

I got into Game Grumps in late 2014 with their Trauma Center playthrough, and I've been a huge fan of theirs through late 2019. (I mean I know I made the Pantsu Hunter animation in 2020, but it was a moment from 2019 Grumps that I loved.) Then they started trying SO much harder to please the algorithm by making weirder titles, getting rid of the numbered episodes, and getting rid of the Grump heads. Plus, their playthroughs this year really haven't...felt right to me. Like the only recent things from them that I loved were the House Party playthroughs that had them as in-game characters. I don't know if it's because I'm in the middle of a depressive episode right now where almost nothing brings me joy anymore, but it's really disheartening after their older content had gotten me through so much shit throughout the years.

At a bout of morbid curiosity, I looked through this subreddit after reading through a bunch of Chihiro gender discourse in the regular Grumps subreddit (stemming from Arin's morally divisive way about treating it). And I found a lot of info on here which is...really disappointing to say the least. Like the whole thing about Ben being a pedophile that's still somehow working for the Grumps and Dan's pump n' dump treatment of (legal but still) younger fans.

It also doesn't really help that I didn't realize until later that they weren't really paying me enough for the animations I made for them. I told my animator friends how much I got paid from doing them, and they all said, "That is waaaaaay too low for an animator to be making for almost 2 minutes of content." I guess before that, I thought it was a lot because I'm really poor in general so any amount of new money was good money. But in hindsight, it does feel kind of unfair now that I think about it.

I don't know if I'll keep animating for the Grumps in the future or not, but I don't want this to come off as me cutting them completely out of my life or anything, or "biting the hand that feeds me" or whatever. I don't want this post to ruin my relationship with the Grumps or anything, especially if it means ruining any chance of other possible connections in the future. None of this can take away from the joy that the Grumps gave me from 2014-2019. I'm really thankful for the Grumps for helping my career out. I just want them to get better, from a fan's perspective. That's all.

EDIT: We also have a concrete answer as to how much they pay their animators and the requirements for animations on the channel:
- New animators get paid $800 flat rate
- Returning animators get paid $1000 flat rate per video
And that's it. They get no shared revenue off of the videos, that all goes to the Grumps. They do get a 1099 form so at least it's not covered as a personal expense and actually shows up on Grumps' financial information, but still.

Regardless of status, each animator also gets a flat 1 1/2 month deadline per video, regardless of length (which for a 2 minute animation is an absurdly low amount of time to make something).
EDIT 2: Got the animator wrong: fixed it.

Holy fuck. For someone that used to animate, you'd think that Arin would know that is way too short of a time period to make a two minute animation with today's standards. You could get away with it back when Newgrounds animation was janky, but for the quality people expects nowadays that style doesn't work. My god, I hope this animator gets a better opportunity ASAP

 

[MahFibro!]

Alongside the charity shit, we've got one of the animators for the Grumps' official channel, Sherbies, talking on RantGrumps about their disillusionment to the Grumps, as well as revealing that Game Grumps apparently underpays their animators, and him having to accept the pay because they were incredibly poor at the time despite other animators in the field telling him that that's WAY too low a payment for a 2-minute animation.

Here's the animations they worked on:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W47utqrKqjAhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=1JhJ241dJ_ghttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_3L4EqFpbo0https://youtube.com/watch?v=li5j8_WnbLU

Spoiler: From A Game Grumps Animator

I'm hoping I don't get a lot of shit from posting in here, but we'll see I guess.

I got into Game Grumps in late 2014 with their Trauma Center playthrough, and I've been a huge fan of theirs through late 2019. (I mean I know I made the Pantsu Hunter animation in 2020, but it was a moment from 2019 Grumps that I loved.) Then they started trying SO much harder to please the algorithm by making weirder titles, getting rid of the numbered episodes, and getting rid of the Grump heads. Plus, their playthroughs this year really haven't...felt right to me. Like the only recent things from them that I loved were the House Party playthroughs that had them as in-game characters. I don't know if it's because I'm in the middle of a depressive episode right now where almost nothing brings me joy anymore, but it's really disheartening after their older content had gotten me through so much shit throughout the years.

At a bout of morbid curiosity, I looked through this subreddit after reading through a bunch of Chihiro gender discourse in the regular Grumps subreddit (stemming from Arin's morally divisive way about treating it). And I found a lot of info on here which is...really disappointing to say the least. Like the whole thing about Ben being a pedophile that's still somehow working for the Grumps and Dan's pump n' dump treatment of (legal but still) younger fans.

It also doesn't really help that I didn't realize until later that they weren't really paying me enough for the animations I made for them. I told my animator friends how much I got paid from doing them, and they all said, "That is waaaaaay too low for an animator to be making for almost 2 minutes of content." I guess before that, I thought it was a lot because I'm really poor in general so any amount of new money was good money. But in hindsight, it does feel kind of unfair now that I think about it.

I don't know if I'll keep animating for the Grumps in the future or not, but I don't want this to come off as me cutting them completely out of my life or anything, or "biting the hand that feeds me" or whatever. I don't want this post to ruin my relationship with the Grumps or anything, especially if it means ruining any chance of other possible connections in the future. None of this can take away from the joy that the Grumps gave me from 2014-2019. I'm really thankful for the Grumps for helping my career out. I just want them to get better, from a fan's perspective. That's all.

EDIT: We also have a concrete answer as to how much they pay their animators and the requirements for animations on the channel:
- New animators get paid $800 flat rate
- Returning animators get paid $1000 flat rate per video
And that's it. They get no shared revenue off of the videos, that all goes to the Grumps. They do get a 1099 form so at least it's not covered as a personal expense and actually shows up on Grumps' financial information, but still.

Regardless of status, each animator also gets a flat 1 1/2 month deadline per video, regardless of length (which for a 2 minute animation is an absurdly low amount of time to make something).
EDIT 2: Got the animator wrong: fixed it.

'I don't want this post to ruin my relationship with the Grumps or anything, especially if it means ruining any chance of other possible connections in the future.'

My inner pessimist tells me that - if they catch wind of this post - both are likely to happen (the Grumps/Arin probably won't be too keen on the animator daring to converse with the 'hate group' and especially for sharing how little the Grumps pay their animators for all their hard work (that the Grumps largely benefit from).

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

My inner pessimist tells me that - if they catch wind of this post - both are likely to happen (the Grumps/Arin probably won't be too keen on the animator daring to converse with the 'hate group' and especially for sharing how little the Grumps pay their animators for all their hard work (that the Grumps largely benefit from).

Likely? That's practically a guarantee unless he gets down on his knees and begs for forgiveness.

 

[Glitter Shitter]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Suh-3z06thg
I just thought I'd share this compilation that exists for... some reason

Just gotta say, it's so glaringly obvious how creeped out Dan is by these kinda jokes lmao, it's like when you see a teen girl get hit on by a fuckin middle aged bald dude. Dude just ask Dan to fuck once the show's done and get over it. I'm sure he fucks better than horseface Suzy anyway.

'I don't want this post to ruin my relationship with the Grumps or anything, especially if it means ruining any chance of other possible connections in the future.'

My inner pessimist tells me that - if they catch wind of this post - both are likely to happen (the Grumps/Arin probably won't be too keen on the animator daring to converse with the 'hate group' and especially for sharing how little the Grumps pay their animators for all their hard work (that the Grumps largely benefit from).

Sadly, that happens a lot in the creative industry in general. If you get 'blacklisted' by any big person or company, then people are less likely to work with you because it would poison their own rep in their mind. I mean look at Depp, dude's essentially dead to Hollywood. I can definitely see that as an entirely valid reason why this animator would be so scared to not kiss their ass and actually speak up. God forbid someone doesn't suck Arin's dick and actually say something negative about him.

 

[Cool Spot]

Pretty ridiculous how Arin is an animator and is totally fine with hiring other animators and paying them in peanuts, as if he thinks that "exposure" is a good justification to not pay artists properly for their work. What a cunt.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Does anyone remember this quote?

r/rantgrumps - "Arin's done some illegal things when it comes to money." - I'm sorry, what?!

315 votes and 107 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

Master Sword, who had been connected with the grumps content creation and done remixes for them, said that "Arin's done some illegal things when it comes to money."
Could this be what he was talking about? I certainly wouldn't be surprised if this is just the tip of the iceberg with how money-obsessed Arin is.

Also:

So either Arin is skimming money off the top, or his mum is committing fraud, or both. All the while he could be tax deducting other people's donations. I really think he has some answering to do for himself. In all honesty this seems pretty damming to me. It will be interesting to watch how this unfolds, or if there are any consequences.

Edit:
Two archives of the grumps and Vernon tweeting about raising over 65k and 68k respectively for the HHTC

https://archive.md/ScLhE

https://archive.md/0fkiQ

And like clockwork: the Lovelies...er, rather: a Lovely is getting weirdly defensive about Arin possibly committing tax fraud and trying to downplay every single crime he did in the past.

Spoiler: "What a crime"