Astronauts stranded in space due to multiple issues with Boeing's Starliner — and the window for a return flight is closing

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Astronauts stranded in space due to multiple issues with Boeing's Starliner — and the window for a return flight is closing​


Two NASA astronauts who rode to orbit on Boeing's Starliner are currently stranded in space aboard the International Space Station (ISS) after engineers discovered numerous issues with the Boeing spacecraft. Teams on the ground are now racing to assess Starliner's status.

Astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams were originally scheduled to return to Earth on June 13 after a week on the ISS, but their stay has been extended for a second time due to the ongoing issues. The astronauts will now return home no sooner than June 26th, according to NASA.

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After years of delays, Boeing's Starliner capsule successfully blasted offon its inaugural crewed flight from Florida's Cape Canaveral Space Force Station at 10:52 a.m. EDT on June 5. But during the 25-hour flight, engineers discovered five separate helium leaks to the spacecraft's thruster system.

Now, to give engineers time to troubleshoot the faults, NASA has announced it will push back the perilous return flight, extending the crew's stay on the space station to at least three weeks.

"We've learned that our helium system is not performing as designed," Mark Nappi, Boeing's Starliner program manager, said at a news conference on June 18. "Albeit manageable, it's still not working like we designed it. So we've got to go figure that out."

The return module of the Starliner spacecraft is currently docked to the ISS's Harmony module as NASA and Boeing engineers assess the vital hardware issues aboard the vessel, including five helium leaks to the system that pressurizes the spacecraft's propulsion system, and five thruster failures to its reaction-control system.

After powering the thrusters up on June 15, engineers found that most of these issues appeared to be at least partially resolved, but their exact causes remain unknown.

However, the Harmony module's limited fuel means Starliner can only stay docked for 45 days, so the window for a safe return flight is narrowing.

The issues are the latest in a long list of setbacks and headaches for Boeing's spacecraft. The company built the Starliner capsule as a part of NASA's Commercial Crew Program, a partnership between the agency and private companies to ferry astronauts into low Earth orbit following the retirement of NASA's space shuttles in 2011. SpaceX's Crew Dragon also came from this initiative and has racked up 12 crewed flights since it began operating in 2020.

But Starliner's first uncrewed test flight in 2019 was scuppered by a software fault that placed it in the wrong orbit, and a second attempt was held back by issues with a fuel valve. After more reviews last year, the company had to fix issues with the capsule's parachutes and remove around a mile (1.6 kilometers) of tape that was found to be flammable.

The current mission is Boeing's third attempt to take the crew to the ISS. The previous two were scrubbed by a vibrating oxygen valve on the United Launch Alliance's Atlas V rocket on which Starliner was mounted (and which was developed by Lockheed Martin) and a computer glitch in a ground launch sequencer, respectively.
 
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Fuck that for a joke. Nasa would rather them burn up in that tin can then send up a dragon to bring them home safely.
What a fucking embarrassment.
Apollo 13 was successfully guided into using the lunar module as a improvised backup after the service module engine and power generators were disabled after one of the hydrogen tanks blew up.

One of the Skylab missions had a similar thruster failer and NASA immediately had a rescue mission planned if it got worse:
 
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ISS astronauts on eight-day mission may be stuck until 2025, Nasa says​

Two astronauts who left Earth in June remain at International Space Station after issues with Boeing’s Starliner capsule
Two US astronauts who blasted into space for an eight-day mission in June may be stuck on the International Space Station until next year if their Boeing Starliner cannot be repaired for them to return home, Nasa has said.

Nasa officials on Wednesday said astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, who became the first crew to fly Boeing’s Starliner capsule, could return on SpaceX’s Crew Dragon in February 2025 if Starliner is still deemed unsafe to return to Earth.

The US space agency has been discussing potential plans with SpaceX to leave two seats empty on an upcoming Crew Dragon launch, which itself was delayed by a month on Tuesday, as Nasa and Boeing work out how to bring the astronauts home.

The astronauts’ test mission on 5 June, initially expected to last about eight days on the station, has been drawn out by issues on Starliner’s propulsion system that have increasingly called into question the spacecraft’s ability to safely return them to Earth as planned.

A Boeing spokesperson said if Nasa decides to change Starliner’s mission, the company “will take the actions necessary to configure Starliner for an uncrewed return.”

Using a SpaceX craft to return astronauts that Boeing had planned to bring back on Starliner would be a major blow to an aerospace giant that has struggled for years to compete with SpaceX and its more experienced Crew Dragon.

Starliner has been docked to the ISS for 63 of the maximum 90 days it can stay, and it is parked at the same port that Crew Dragon will have to use to deliver the upcoming astronaut crew.

The SpaceX Crew-9 launch was initially scheduled for mid-August. Nasa now says the mission will launch after 24 September.
Boeing said in July that after rigorous ground tests, engineers pinpointed issues within the Starliner, including the abrupt malfunction of thrusters and helium leaks.

In a 2 August statement, the company said its “confidence remains high in Starliner’s return with crew”.

Recent reports had suggested there was more conflict behind the scenes between Nasa and Boeing leaders. Some of the agency’s leaders had appeared to question whether the Starliner should bring Williams and Wilmore back.

A meeting this week of Nasa’s Commercial Crew Program, which oversees Starliner, ended with some officials disagreeing with a plan to accept Boeing’s testing data and use Starliner to bring the astronauts home, officials said during the news conference on Wednesday.

“We didn’t poll in a way that led to a conclusion,” Commercial Crew Program chief Steve Stich said.

“We heard from a lot of folks that had concerns, and the decision was not clear,” Ken Bowersox, Nasa’s space operations chief, added.
A Boeing executive was not at the Wednesday press conference.

Space experts told the Guardian it was not unusual or unexpected for an experimental spaceflight to develop issues.

“It’s defined as a test mission, it’s called a crewed test flight, and one of its things is to deal with unplanned issues,” said Jerry Stone, senior associate of the Space Studies Institute and author of One Small Step.

But the stakes are high for Boeing, which has been battling a PR crisis for the last few years over its aircraft.

At the company’s last press conference about the Starliner, Mark Nappi, Boeing’s commercial crew program manager, said he regretted being so “emphatic” about how the mission would last only eight days.

“It’s my regret that we didn’t just say we’re going to stay up there until we get everything done that we want to go do,” Nappi said.

Boeing’s testing so far has shown that four of Starliner’s jets had failed in June because they overheated and automatically turned off, while other thrusters re-fired during tests appeared weaker than normal because of some restriction to their propellant.

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They went to space for eight days - and could be stuck until 2025​

When two American astronauts blasted off on a test mission to the International Space Station on 5 June, they were expecting to be back home in a matter of days.

But things didn't quite go to plan.

In fact, Barry “Butch” Wilmore and Sunita Williams are still there, floating high above the Earth nearly two months later.

The pair - who are stuck indefinitely - now face the sudden prospect of missing the summer entirely and even spending Christmas and New Year in space.

Mr Wilmore, 61, and Ms Williams, 58, flew a Boeing Starliner spacecraft to the station. It was the first flight of its kind with people on board and was a test designed to see how the new spacecraft performs before it is used more regularly.

Problems, however, emerged as it made its approach. These included leaks in its propulsion system and some of its thrusters shutting down.
So while they made it to the space station safely, they will need an alternative mode of transport to get home if the Starliner is not deemed safe to return to earth.

At a news briefing on Wednesday, Nasa officials said no firm decisions had been made when it comes to next steps.

"Our prime option is to return Butch and Suni on Starliner," Steve Stich, manager of Nasa's Commercial Crew Program, said. "However, we have done the requisite planning to make sure we have other options open.”

One potential option being considered, they said, is to attach the two astronauts to a mission that is scheduled to launch in September, and return them to earth with that mission in February 2025.

That flight to the space station will be made by a SpaceX Crew Dragon craft. The initial plan was for four crew members to be aboard, but two of the seats could be left empty if needed.

That plan would mean the astronauts would spend more than eight months – rather than eight days – aboard the International Space Station (ISS).

If the Crew Dragon is used, the Starliner craft would be returned to Earth without any crew, under computer control.
Nasa officials said it could take a week or more for a final decision to be made.

Ken Bowersox, Nasa's director of space operations, told reporters the chances of an uncrewed return of the Starliner “have increased a little bit based on where things have gone over the last week or two.”

"That's why we're looking more closely at that option to make sure that we can handle it," he said.

Using a SpaceX craft to return the astronauts would be a blow to Boeing, which has for years tried to compete with the company and its more experienced Crew Dragon.

Earlier this week, Nasa used a SpaceX rocket to deliver more food and supplies to the ISS, including extra clothes for the two astronauts.
Last month, in a short press briefing, the pair said they were "absolutely confident” in the return trip and Starliner was “truly impressive.”

This is the third stint aboard the ISS for Ms Williams, a retired Navy helicopter pilot, while Mr Wilmore is a former fighter jet pilot who has been to space twice before.

“We've been thoroughly busy up here, integrated right into the crew,” Ms Williams told reporters during a recent briefing call.

“It feels like coming back home. It feels good to float around. It feels good to be in space and work up here with the International Space Station team," she said. "So yeah, it’s great to be up here.”

Boeing was hoping that the maiden Starliner mission would pave the way for regular use of its capsule for missions back and forth to the station. The Space X Crew Dragon has been approved for Nasa missions since 2020.

Although the astronauts will spend much more time in space than they initially planned, others have spent much longer periods above the Earth's surface. Russian Valeri Polyakov spent 437 days in space in aboard the Mir space station in the mid-1990s.

Last year, Frank Rubio returned from the ISS after 371 days, the longest time an American has spent in space.

And Russia's Oleg Kononenko, also currently aboard the ISS, is the first person to have spent more than 1,000 days in space during the course of their career.

In their briefings and interviews, the two Americans have been upbeat about their situation. "I’m not complaining that we’re here for a couple extra weeks," Ms Williams said last month.

As things stand, the pair may be there for many more weeks to come.
 
The most embarrassing bit about of it I've read is that Boeing sent up the first one (unmanned) was with automation software. This hardware they have sent up this time does not have it. Heads need to roll for this.

The most disappointing thing I think is that they have, to me, sent up two of the most charismatic Astronauts I've ever seen videos of.

The thing has been a cluster fuck right from the beginning and either the NASA or the US Government need to step in and say enough is enough.
 
It's the ISS, why not send a chink, dog-eater, yurop or ruskie shuttle up there to rescue them? Or is it that verboten?
If they ask Musk for help, he will say no, because I have no doubt they would kill two astronauts to make Musk look bad.

How will they survive to 2025 if the previsions on board were only for 8 days?
 
It's the ISS, why not send a chink, dog-eater, yurop or ruskie shuttle up there to rescue them? Or is it that verboten?
If they ask Musk for help, he will say no, because I have no doubt they would kill two astronauts to make Musk look bad.

How will they survive to 2025 if the previsions on board were only for 8 days?
They are docking port limited, the US/EU etc. have a certain number.... the Russians have more, but they are different "plug types". The longer the Boeing thing is there it will delay anything they want to do as it takes one (out of two from memory) out of action.
 
ISS has more than enough provisions and can be resupplied if necessary.
Resupplied from Earth? As in, they send a care package up celotaped to a rocket?


They are docking port limited, the US/EU etc. have a certain number.... the Russians have more, but they are different "plug types". The longer the Boeing thing is there it will delay anything they want to do as it takes one (out of two from memory) out of action.
Boeing shit is stuck on the side of the ISS like a space limpet, which leaves only one dock port? Forgive the retardation but why not just used the other dock port while boeing scratch their arses?

If the yanks are stuck there until 2025, does that have a knock-on effect to the other nations that want to float around in space prison?
 
So the shuttle is parked and taking up space and has to go back down within a month regardless? What’s happening at that ninety day mark that means they can’t stay, is there another mission going up? What are they going to do, send it back down uncrewed? What’s their plan here?
It’ll be like parking wars all over again!
Quick Sergei, Boeing shitliner trying to park again! Get the traffic cones or stick the wheelie bin there! I will leave them a note on the windscreen if they do this again!”
 
Fucking hell send up some LEGO mindstorms and devise a remote contraption to press the damn button.

This is the kind of shitshow you get when nobody at all gives a shit or has any pride in their work, from the top down.

Trump can now make some serious hay with this though he might not want to; if he pushes it they’ll send these astronauts to their death 99%.
 
Resupplied from Earth? As in, they send a care package up celotaped to a rocket?
They have regular resupply missions. Most are by Dragon these days, but there's also the Russian Progress (which is just a soyuz without seats), and the US Cygnus.
Boeing shit is stuck on the side of the ISS like a space limpet, which leaves only one dock port? Forgive the retardation but why not just used the other dock port while boeing scratch their arses?
ISS has at least six ports. At least two are always occupied by Soyuz/Progress, but the rest are available. Ships can be moved around to different ports by the arm if needed.

The real problem with the Boing capsule is, if they eventually figure out how to un-dock it without someone staying aboard, it apparently doesn't have the ability to autopilot its way back to earth, meaning it will be adrift. It'll re-enter uncontrollably and could land on someone's house.
 
I'm just amazed there's zero noise about this shit.

If this happened during the trump administration you'd have hearings, live coverage, heck msnbc and CNN would have a counter in the logo counting the days the astronauts got stranded (like the iran hostages in the 80s), you'd have some journo going after the Boeing CEO saying nigger in 2005 or something.

If it happened to SpaceX too, remember how the media orgasmed about the titan submarine, a white bro dude billionaire entrepreneur (who was politically neutral) who killed himself and his clients on a joyride? They sold the guy like musk or bezos, because they desperately wanted it to be them.
 
I'm just amazed there's zero noise about this shit.

If this happened during the trump administration you'd have hearings, live coverage, heck msnbc and CNN would have a counter in the logo counting the days the astronauts got stranded (like the iran hostages in the 80s), you'd have some journo going after the Boeing CEO saying nigger in 2005 or something.

If it happened to SpaceX too, remember how the media orgasmed about the titan submarine, a white bro dude billionaire entrepreneur (who was politically neutral) who killed himself and his clients on a joyride? They sold the guy like musk or bezos, because they desperately wanted it to be them.
Being severely annoyed by being temporarily stranded in space but with no real imminent danger makes for a good curiosity article but it isn't true tabloid headliner material, it doesn't have the sellability of impending grisly doom on a timer only avoidable through human ingenuity like the OceanGate thing, those kids trapped in a flooded Thai cave or the Chile mine collapse. Since the only real imminent victim is a centerpiece of American industry, I'm not terribly surprised that it's being sidelined instead of being paraded front and center.

If the astronauts were on an actual death timer and HAD to be rescued within a certain time frame, it'd likely receive much more attention.
 
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