At least 64 dead after ATR-72 flown by Yeti Airlines crashes near central Nepal - Crashed near the second largest city, Pokhara.

[Naes]

Oof. Thanks for the video. It looks like something catastrophically failed and the pilots lost control and had zero time to do anything. Sad.

Not a problem. I watched several, and aviation experts are talking about it, Also, co-pilot that was about to retire, a woman, who's husband (pilot w/same airline) died in a crash 16 yrs ago.

Happens to fast and indeed it's tragic.

I have no clue if that's fake or not, but it certainly follow the progression of a film student's idea of what a found footage plane crash would look like.

Normal footage of some guy filming himself and looking out the window -> sounds of chaos with fullscreen solid colors, indicating the camera's covered up by something translucent -> it lingers on this creepypasta-looking shot of something unspecific View attachment 4272792 -> just pure fire -> camera rotates and we see a dead tree, indicating we're outside now View attachment 4272802 -> the camera's covered by the guy's fingers as he is presumably scrambling to escape


Probably fake, camera pans down on the exact frame when the right wing would underlap that roof View attachment 4272851

Doubtful, but I didn't verify it, Aviation people are talking about it and using that vid. Who knows?

On the actual live vid, I kept thinking "how is that phone/device still running?" but it's being listed as legit.

oof Edit, sorry double post

 

[bile demon]

Wonder if the cause of the crash was the pilot getting PFIZERED mid-flight.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Wonder if the cause of the crash was the pilot getting PFIZERED mid-flight.

Was there someone on the plane that had information on Hillary Clinton?

 

[JosephStalin]

Heard some sort of brief electronic tone before the crash. Wonder if that might not have been some sort of alarm.

 

[RatCake]

Absolute tragedy. Im extremely curious to what caused this? Also, if the footage on the plane doing a complete 180 turn to the side is true, how did that happen?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Someone deleted their question but the videos seem consistent with each other. There were about 4 seconds where they were fucking alarmed in the cabin by the plane turning sharply before it crashed, which would be about 0:02-0:06 in the ground video.

 

[Pom Pilot]

Absolute tragedy. Im extremely curious to what caused this? Also, if the footage on the plane doing a complete 180 turn to the side is true, how did that happen?

Watching the video, looks like a stall and the pilot panicked. Whatever happened, happened fast. Black box might not have much unless they were struggling on approach.

So fucking sad.

 

[H3llonwheels]

Lord imagine getting on a flight in Nepal, home of Mount Everest in a dang puddle jumper. I’m not afraid to fly but that would scare the shit out of me.

"If you look right and UP as FAAAAAR as you can, that is Mt Everest. Be grateful it is on the right and not in front"

 

[mamoas]

Watching the video, looks like a stall and the pilot panicked. Whatever happened, happened fast. Black box might not have much unless they were struggling on approach.

So fucking sad.

The flight data recorder should give a better picture but tentatively looking at the brief landing approach video its likely it was a stall spin which is one common fatality where because of cross winds or the aircraft is for whatever reason incorrectly aligned and the pilot tries to rectify by turning rather than aborting the approach and going back around, ends up stalling the aircraft and losing control with tragic results in this case

 

[HarveyMCR]

The video the guy took is fucking horrifying. Scariest part to me is that since 8 people lived, there's a chance he wasn't dead on impact. Obviously the camera shows an eruption of flames, but towards the end it quickly pivots to a different scene. I have to wonder if he just instinctually grabbed his phone as he was in the process of dying. Makes me wonder if I would grab my phone to look at it while dying just out of habit...

I know it's a soy redditard thing to reference 'le popular media' in regards to a tragedy, but it reminds me of Gustavo Fring's death scene. He is very clearly already dead after the explosion goes off, and fixes his tie out of adrenaline/habit. I wonder if I would check my phone one last time before death just because of how addicted I am to the thing?

 

[LegoTugboat]

Updated death toll of 68. 4 missing, with some reports they may have been critically injured and are on top of a nearby mountain.

 

[TrulyMan]

Blanco's prelim analysis.

Any pilots or amateur sim pilots that can explain how only one wing/side of a plane stalls?

 

[feral cat #6385]

I have no clue if that's fake or not, but it certainly follow the progression of a film student's idea of what a found footage plane crash would look like.

Normal footage of some guy filming himself and looking out the window -> sounds of chaos with fullscreen solid colors, indicating the camera's covered up by something translucent -> it lingers on this creepypasta-looking shot of something unspecific View attachment 4272792 -> just pure fire -> camera rotates and we see a dead tree, indicating we're outside now View attachment 4272802 -> the camera's covered by the guy's fingers as he is presumably scrambling to escape


Probably fake, camera pans down on the exact frame when the right wing would underlap that roof View attachment 4272851

Scrambling to escape? A best the guy is charred pile o body parts. There's no escaping a plane crash.

 

[Pissmaster]

Scrambling to escape? A best the guy is charred pile o body parts. There's no escaping a plane crash.

Someone was alive enough to have a visible hand near the end, when the plane had gone down, and was apparently cognizant enough to stop recording the video, on a telephone, after a horrific plane crash, and the phone either stayed intact enough to upload the video afterwards, or well connected enough to whomever was video chatting with him that it never even lagged in the connection, amidst a horrible plane crash in Nepal.

Yeah, I don’t think those videos were real at all

 

[CircuSphere]

I have no clue if that's fake or not, but it certainly follow the progression of a film student's idea of what a found footage plane crash would look like.

Normal footage of some guy filming himself and looking out the window -> sounds of chaos with fullscreen solid colors, indicating the camera's covered up by something translucent -> it lingers on this creepypasta-looking shot of something unspecific View attachment 4272792 -> just pure fire -> camera rotates and we see a dead tree, indicating we're outside now View attachment 4272802 -> the camera's covered by the guy's fingers as he is presumably scrambling to escape


Probably fake, camera pans down on the exact frame when the right wing would underlap that roof View attachment 4272851

In the other thread I saw the inside cabin video and it looks like there were some low hanging clouds but it was mostly clear. The report said it was half strewn across the mountain and into the gorge which suggests a terrain encounter but that is strange because they should not be cleared to fly an approach without safety minimums. It makes sense though because the airport is surrounded by mountains and they could be off course..but the weather was pretty good (though some fog/light clouds were in the forcast) and they should have known that. After seeing the outside video I'm now really confused because it just banks hard as if in a stall and the sky looks totally clear. If that is genuine then I wonder what the investigation will find as the cause of the stall/dive. I also don't understand why you wouldn't want to preserve vital footage for investigators (or take cover) and instead pan early to your plants.

What is also strange to me is that the plane crashed into the "Seti Gorge" and the Seti is the river to the West of the airport, which means they where doing their approach over mountains and the map point for Seti Gorge is actually further North in a very mountainous region. It surprises me that all approaches are not flown from the South East where the terrain is flatter and this seems to suggest navigational error again.

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[LegoTugboat]

According to a statement, "The craft made contact with the airport from Seti Gorge at 10:50 a.m. (0505 GMT),"

So maybe it touched down on the runway, but didn't have enough space to properly land, leaving them to try for a go-around?

The Daily Mail's reporting that the airport in question has only been operating for two weeks, so I doubt there's much experience with it.

EDIT - The Times of India's saying that the interior video is legitimate, saying that he was streaming on Facebook live at the time to his cousin, and that a Yeti Airways logo and a Nepalese tourism advert can be seen on the footage.

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

Someone was alive enough to have a visible hand near the end, when the plane had gone down, and was apparently cognizant enough to stop recording the video, on a telephone, after a horrific plane crash, and the phone either stayed intact enough to upload the video afterwards, or well connected enough to whomever was video chatting with him that it never even lagged in the connection, amidst a horrible plane crash in Nepal.

Yeah, I don’t think those videos were real at all

I don't think there's anyone holding the phone after 29 seconds, it rolls to the floor, briefly stays in one spot after the crash, and then slides out of the ruptured cabin along with everything else. It looks like it went in the ravine with some corpses.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

Any pilots or amateur sim pilots that can explain how only one wing/side of a plane stalls?

Airflow is asymmetrical. Depending on the angle at which you are flying (specifically the Angle of Attack of your airfoil), as you enter stall conditions, some airflows will be below stall speed, other flows will be above. Crosswind is also a factor. The shape of a wing can also influence the sequence of the stall. Straight wing aircraft tend to stall at the base of the wings first, while swept-wing aircraft begin to stall at the wingtips.

 

[TrulyMan]

Airflow is asymmetrical. Depending on the angle at which you are flying (specifically the Angle of Attack of your airfoil), as you enter stall conditions, some airflows will be below stall speed, other flows will be above. Crosswind is also a factor. The shape of a wing can also influence the sequence of the stall. Straight wing aircraft tend to stall at the base of the wings first, while swept-wing aircraft begin to stall at the wingtips.

Thanks, I think I get it then. Its so easy to think of an airplane as a monolith passing through air generating lift through airspeed and magic but its the airflow and pressures that create it. edit: Though I guess in the case of extremely powerful aircraft generating enough thrust this can be the case.

Could completely flat and straight wings then ever create this difference in pressure to generate consistent lift of a heavier than air object creating its own propulsion?

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

Thanks, I think I get it then. Its so easy to think of an airplane as a monolith passing through air generating lift through airspeed and magic but its the airflow and pressures that create it. edit: Though I guess in the case of extremely powerful aircraft generating enough thrust this can be the case.

Even powerful aircraft are not immune to stalls. What a stall actually is: the airflow detaches from the airfoil. There are several scenarios in which this can occur. First is insufficient speed, which is the one that is easy to understand. Second is changing course too aggressively (high-speed stalls). Third would be a catastrophic disruption in the air itself, the best example by far is the updraft of a storm.

The same physical phenomenon is happening. The airflow is obstructed, and the aircraft falls out of the sky.

More info so as not to derail the thread too far: https://wikiless.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack

Could completely flat and straight wings then ever create this difference in pressure to generate consistent lift of a heavier than air object creating its own propulsion?

If I understand what you are asking, no, that would violate the second law of thermodynamics. But there are scenarios in which you could create that illusion. Gliders come close, but they are using updrafts and air currents to generate lift, which are influenced by the sun, so the energy is coming from somewhere else.