At least 64 dead after ATR-72 flown by Yeti Airlines crashes near central Nepal - Crashed near the second largest city, Pokhara.

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Even powerful aircraft are not immune to stalls. What a stall actually is: the airflow detaches from the airfoil. There are several scenarios in which this can occur. First is insufficient speed, which is the one that is easy to understand. Second is changing course too aggressively (high-speed stalls). Third would be a catastrophic disruption in the air itself, the best example by far is the updraft of a storm.

The same physical phenomenon is happening. The airflow is obstructed, and the aircraft falls out of the sky.

More info so as not to derail the thread too far: https://wikiless.org/wiki/Angle_of_attack

If I understand what you are asking, no, that would violate the second law of thermodynamics. But there are scenarios in which you could create that illusion. Gliders come close, but they are using updrafts and air currents to generate lift, which are influenced by the sun, so the energy is coming from somewhere else.
Thanks. I mean I don't mind derailing threads when its a connected subject a bit but some people are touchy about it. We aren't fully on the same page but close enough.
Here's an interesting video I found on the subject inbetween your replies if you want to poke about the subject yourself a bit.

 
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Many people are laughing seconds before they die because they don't see it coming. It's not as odd as you would think.

Things like this often happen in Asia. Either 1. their flight infrastructure is shit, 2. their pilots are overworked, or 3. there is some sort of Bermuda Triangle shit under that region.
I was in a near death situation with a bunch of people, no one was hurt but it could’ve ended with a lot of us dead or injured. Some people respond to death with nervous or even jovial laughter. Many are quiet and a few scream.
 
Yeah, I don’t think those videos were real at all
Fun fact, plane crashes are so violent that one of the leading causes of death is something called an aortic tear, because the deceleration on impact is sudden enough the aorta literally rips because of the heart's movement.

The good thing about this is it's a nearly instant death.

This can happen in a car crash too, but is much less common.
I was in a near death situation with a bunch of people, no one was hurt but it could’ve ended with a lot of us dead or injured. Some people respond to death with nervous or even jovial laughter. Many are quiet and a few scream.
Closest I got was in an elevator and the cable snapped loudly, followed by the elevator dropping about ten stories, stopping with a screeching sound as the emergency brakes kicked in. There were still ominous sproinging sounds going on the entire time before the rescue crew showed up to force open the doors and get us out of the elevator that was stuck between floors.

We mainly made jokes the whole time.
 
Any pilots or amateur sim pilots that can explain how only one wing/side of a plane stalls?
Looking at the exterior video now it looks like the airplane tip stalled on the left wing. I've crashed many model airplanes like that while coming in for landing. Without enough altitude they're next to impossible to recover from. I think it's pilot error now.
 
Looking at the exterior video now it looks like the airplane tip stalled on the left wing. I've crashed many model airplanes like that while coming in for landing. Without enough altitude they're next to impossible to recover from. I think it's pilot error now.
I have a hard time meshing the "victim video" with the witness footage of the crash. The victim is clearly in a fireball and explosion before the plane hits the ground. How could that be a pilot error?

But yes, the external view of the plan rolling over could be pilot error. However my first thought was the left engine failing, and not enough power in the right one to maintain lift. Then the left would dip and rollover would occur.
 
Any more footage coming out yet? This is great stuff.
There is footage floating around from after the crash of the rescuers sifting through debris and hoisting some pretty crispy bodies up the cliff. Will edit post with a link/file if I find it again. Very NSFL content.

EDIT: Found it
 
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I have a hard time meshing the "victim video" with the witness footage of the crash. The victim is clearly in a fireball and explosion before the plane hits the ground. How could that be a pilot error?

But yes, the external view of the plan rolling over could be pilot error. However my first thought was the left engine failing, and not enough power in the right one to maintain lift. Then the left would dip and rollover would occur.
I say pilot error because that's usually the main cause of crashes on final approach. It's a delicate balance of maintaining a slow enough air speed you can land and fast enough you don't stall out. The fdr should hold all the answers in this case I hope. ATR are pretty reliable and the few accidents they crashed are mainly due to ice formation on the wing in cold climates.
 
Update from Nepal and Yeti Airlines.

All 72 passengers and crew confirmed dead. No survivors. Nepal's worst plane crash in 3 decades.
That's for the better, anyone getting out that shit "alive" would just be a broken shell of his former self, mentally and physically.

The video of the rescuers lifting bodies with ropes is somewhat disturbing, yet I've seen some serious shit online before. Let's hope it really went fast for everyone involved in there.
 
I have a hard time meshing the "victim video" with the witness footage of the crash. The victim is clearly in a fireball and explosion before the plane hits the ground. How could that be a pilot error?

But yes, the external view of the plan rolling over could be pilot error. However my first thought was the left engine failing, and not enough power in the right one to maintain lift. Then the left would dip and rollover would occur.
I don't see anything that looks like fire until after the crash in the POV video. Before the phone is fumbled, it just looks like they are alarmed by the plane sharply rotating.
 
All the footage that's emerged so far is disturbing as fuck but the video of the rescuers hauling the charred corpses out just meters from a disfigured body being hauled out by rope has got to take the cake. I don't know about the average rescuer but the higher-ups absolutely knew that they weren't going to find any survivors.
Imagine being one of those responders, hoping they can save as many survivors as possible then finding out they're only there to rig up a pulley system so they can pull out as many mutilated corpses as they can. Fucking hell.
 
Imagine being one of those responders, hoping they can save as many survivors as possible then finding out they're only there to rig up a pulley system so they can pull out as many mutilated corpses as they can. Fucking hell.
It depends on how experienced they are at that kind of thing. They may very well have done stuff like this before. Nepal isn't particularly great for air travel.
 
It depends on how experienced they are at that kind of thing. They may very well have done stuff like this before. Nepal isn't particularly great for air travel.
That's putting it mildly. Of the 10 most recent aircraft crashes in Nepal, 7 had everyone die.

Of the remaining 3, one had 18/19 die, one had 49/71 die, one had 1+2/3 die (2 on ground).
And that's not including helicopter crashes, which are also... not exactly survivable in Nepal.

I think when it comes to Nepal, if you hear plane crash, or helicopter crash, assume at least 80% dead. And I wish I was kidding.
 
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