Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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We'll be able to tell once Gabi murks Sasha, but I think they'll just be like the manga community, bury their head in the sand and keep shipping characters.
I think it will be worse than that, I bet as soon as the whole "Totally Not Nazis" shit gets revealed in the Anime, and Erin reveals his plan is to kill all the "Totally not Nazis" the western fashonista fanbase will jerk off about it being "SUPER WOKE AND RELEVANT TO OUR TIMES"
 
I think it will be worse than that, I bet as soon as the whole "Totally Not Nazis" shit gets revealed in the Anime, and Erin reveals his plan is to kill all the "Totally not Nazis" the western fashonista fanbase will jerk off about it being "SUPER WOKE AND RELEVANT TO OUR TIMES"

I mean, to be fair, I don't give a single fuck about Marley and it basically deserves Eren annihilating it. I mean the entire story is a complete and utter failure to get you to feel sorry for these people or Zeke himself.

The real hilarity is if that's the way they feel and then Isayama pulls back and goes "No, this is wrong". I mean, we still don't know how this is going to wind up. They will lose their shit for sure.
 
I mean, to be fair, I don't give a single fuck about Marley and it basically deserves Eren annihilating it. I mean the entire story is a complete and utter failure to get you to feel sorry for these people or Zeke himself.
What about the other countries beside Marley? You know, the almost nonexistent ones that get mentioned in passing. What about the Asian bloodline country, the countries that was at war against Marley, and the Nog country?
 
What about the other countries beside Marley? You know, the almost nonexistent ones that get mentioned in passing. What about the Asian bloodline country, the countries that was at war against Marley, and the Nog country?
They'll get flatten as well under the rumbling.
 
I think it will be worse than that, I bet as soon as the whole "Totally Not Nazis" shit gets revealed in the Anime, and Erin reveals his plan is to kill all the "Totally not Nazis" the western fashonista fanbase will jerk off about it being "SUPER WOKE AND RELEVANT TO OUR TIMES"

See, this is why I have a very strong feeling shit is going to go down once season four drops. Japan might not give a shit about the Nazis since they were allies with them in WWII, but the West certainly does, and the very moment the anime tries to portray them as sympathetic (if it actually does, but it might not due to how catastrophic that would be), the West is gonna lose its goddamn mind, and it is not gonna be pretty.

Also, don't forget that Eren's plan is to kill every other race, too. Including the POCs we've recently just learned also exist in this series. So he's not just killing Nazis here, he's killing everyone, and frankly, I'd be fucking shocked if the West doesn't flip it's shit on that, too.

What about the other countries beside Marley? You know, the almost nonexistent ones that get mentioned in passing. What about the Asian bloodline country, the countries that was at war against Marley, and the Nog country?
That is a very good question, and something that almost never gets brought up. I remember a Marleyan (I don't remember specifically who) saying that the other countries were even worse, but I really don't see how that's possible. This is yet another example of world-building failure by Isayama that creates a giant plothole.

He focused too much on the Marleyans when there's other nations that we no very little about, and because of this Eren's genocidal plan is even worse. He's going to kill everyone, even people that had nothing to do with this. Again, this why I'd be fucking baffled, and horrified if the Western fanbase doesn't get pissed when this shit is revealed. The SJWs might love to kill Nazis, but (hopefully) not at the cost of killing POCs.
 
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Personally I don't see where AOT tries to get people to sympathize with the entirety of Marley. It just seems to make only the brainwashed child soldiers who were forced against their will to fight to be sympathetic and the Eldians that live in the country as Rumbling 2.0 had Eren murder a lot of Eldians who were pretty much oppressed.
 
It just seems to make only the brainwashed child soldiers who were forced against their will to fight
Not true, there is no draft to join the military, every one of them volunteered. The whole brainwashing thing fails as an excuse anyways because, ignoring that you could make the argument that everyone goes through brainwashing to some extent, Grisha was shown to have easily resisted it even before his sister was killed, and that he was part of a whole resistance group of people who also resisted it.
 
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Not true, there is no draft to join the military, every one of them volunteered. The whole brainwashing thing fails as an excuse anyways because, ignoring that you could make the argument that everyone goes through brainwashing to some extent, Grisha was shown to have easily resisted it even before his sister was killed, and that he was part of a whole resistance group of people who also resisted it.
I mean they are children who are joining because it would help their families. Their families hammer this in because they want to live better lives and there is constant propaganda about how bad Eldians are.
 
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I mean they are children who are joining because it would help their families. Their families hammer this in because they want to live better lives and there is constant propaganda about how bad Eldians are.
It's still really hard to feel sympathetic for that, they're willing to help slaughter thousands of people with no remorse just to make their families' lives slightly better.

Hell, in her group, Gabi seems to be the only one who actually believes the Walldians are evil, the others just don't seem to give a shit, I don't recall them ever talking about the Walldians like she does.
 
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It's still really hard to feel sympathetic for that, they're willing to help slaughter thousands of people with no remorse just to make their families' lives slightly better.

Hell, in her group, Gabi seems to be the only one who actually believes the Walldians are evil, the others just don't seem to give a shit, I don't recall them ever talking about the Walldians like she does.
I mean it’s no different from how second class citizens of corrupt countries try to do horrible things to rise up. Also even then the thing with that is that the Eldians of Marley know nothing about the Walldians beyond what the government says about how they are evil so it’s not like they know the people in Eldia are just like them nor do they have any information to contradict that.

That’s part of why the warrior trio become mentally unstable because they all realize that the Walldians are just like them.
 
I mean it’s no different from how second class citizens of corrupt countries try to do horrible things to rise up. Also even then the thing with that is that the Eldians of Marley know nothing about the Walldians beyond what the government says about how they are evil so it’s not like they know the people in Eldia are just like them nor do they have any information to contradict that.
But those people will at least feel guilt. Gabi and the others feel nothing, even Falco didn't care about the people Marley killed at the fort.

Again, the brainwashing excuse doesn't work when not only does everyone go through brainwashing of some kind in real life, but we spent Grisha's whole mini arc following a group of people who resisted the brainwashing. And keep in mind the massive amount of mindless Titans that were on the island, those were all Jews who were able to resist the brainwashing. If so many people were born in the exact same situation as Gabi but didn't turn out like she did, then she and the others have no excuse.

Hell, the brainwashing to start with is a moot point, since every action Gabi does is portrayed as either not wrong or Isayama just doesn't give a shit about it.

That’s part of why the warrior trio become mentally unstable because they all realize that the Walldians are just like them

And then went right back to killing them while feeling nothing but self pity. Hell, by the current arc, Reiner isn't even doing the whole "I killed a lot of innocent people but I feel bad about it so I'm basically the real victim", he just views the whole thing as black and white again.
 
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Okay random, but I just remember something huge from the Krista is Royalty Arc. Kenny wanted to turn into a titan-shifter or some shit like that, but couldn't since it was then revealed that Ackermans are immune to titan powers. So if Isayama remembers his own source material, we're unfortunately not going to get a giant Kaijiu battle between Levi, and Eren.

Who knows, though. He might forget. I hope he forgets.
 
Okay random, but I just remember something huge from the Krista is Royalty Arc. Kenny wanted to turn into a titan-shifter or some shit like that, but couldn't since it was then revealed that Ackermans are immune to titan powers.
Kenny was able to become a Titan-shifter but he wouldn’t be able to get the memories of the King because it only passes down through family bloodlines. Kenny only wanted to see if he could see through the King’s perspective.

This does put into question how Ymir’s (the character) memories were able to be transferred without the bloodline.
Maybe the royal blood has its own distinction?
 
Kenny was able to become a Titan-shifter but he wouldn’t be able to get the memories of the King because it only passes down through family bloodlines. Kenny only wanted to see if he could see through the King’s perspective.

This does put into question how Ymir’s (the character) memories were able to be transferred without the bloodline.
Maybe the royal blood has its own distinction?
True, but I've since googled whether, or not Ackermans could become titans, and the most clear answer I found was no, because the Ackerman bloodline has become so genetically modified that it can't be considered Eldian anymore, and because of that the Coordinate no longer works on them, and they can't become titans.

To be fair, all of the answers were kinda vague, and went mostly off of only implied shit in the series, so it could go either way, imo.
 
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I mean, I think we've done tons of treatments through the thread, may as well do mine now. I'll do a challenge and keep as close as possible to what Isayama wrote....for a little bit.

So you keep most of the stuff from the first third, including the mysterious warrior bit. Things are basically the same up until Annie, until you have some mysterious figures pressuring the government to stop the Scouts. I'd have more characters, but basically the military police start executing members of the scouts. This leads to the Overthrow arc with the royal family. Kenny's an assassin who has met with these mysterious figures, but instead of being brainwashed, he only desires their power. It'd be at this point, I'd slowly reveal that these 'figures' can create and control Titans. We already know Titans can transform at this point, but now we learn Titans are humans.

I'd skip the titan formula, we're not going through the dilemma. So, shit gets overthrown, Reiss goes nuts, Historia crowned. Now they go to take back Shigishina. Colossal Titan gets wrecked by Armin, Armin lives. Levi gets rock smashed instead of Erwin, because fuck Levi's perfection. So either dead or out of the scouts. He needs to be nerfed. Erwin lives. They go to the basement. Turns out its cyberpunk apocalypse.

The Titans are humans, and the age of technology came about during a self-inflicted cataclysm. Titans are bio weapons, created by former humans known as 'the Pure'. The warrior titans and their society outside the walls are enslaved by the technologically advanced 'Pure'. Eventually its revealed that the 'Pure' adopted eugenics wholesale, the problem is that because of eugenics and their 'perfect' immune systems, there was no randomness, which is necessary for an adaptive immune system and most of them are wracked by innumerable diseases which evolved against the Pure who are only alive due to their technology. Due to their arrogance and need for perfection, they have long since destroyed 'imperfect' stocks and need fresh genetics. The Eldians and the Warrior society are the last real humans as the 'pure' can no longer interbreed with them and look like lepers. The Titans 'eat' humans because they're brought back to the Pure for experimentation and not all of them are killed when devoured (double dose of horror). Levi and Mikasa are so good because some of the Pure defected to Eldia when they could still breed with humans. So there are random super-soldiers scattered about Eldia, which pisses the Pure off more since they're basically the ultimate in humanity.

So its on the scouts to convince the warrior caste to join them, and fight against an army of Titans and eradicate the 'Pure' so they could be free of Titans and these monsters. You could introduce body horror elements, ruins of ancient civilizations, keep the titans, and all that shit.

As to who Grisha is, he's from the same bloodline that defected from the Pure centuries ago and the knowledge was passed down from generation to generation. But there's two sides: defectors from the Pure who hate them and defectors from the Pure who idolize them. Those who idolize them are in the government, along with King Cuck, who passes down the power of the Attack Titan, the most powerful bioweapon, to his bloodline. Grisha does the shit he does in the manga, but is mortally wounded and forced to pass down the Titan to Eren. We'll skip Zeke as being Eren's brother and that whole story, he's a member of the warrior caste who is a loyalist and believes the Eldians should be peacefully sterilized into oblivion. So the conflict between the descendants of the Pure would be the royal overthrow arc, which you'd learn about later. No time travel, no fucking Gods, none of that shit. Man vs. Man, Man vs. Nature.
Dude, that sounds awesome! Million times better than what we have! Plus, that's an interesting body horror concept you have there.
 
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if kenny got the power he would end up like eren, where he would only be able to use it by touching another royal. or just talking to ymir I guess? he didn't know about the loopholes anyways. really he should have just stolen the syringe from rod right there. he could have figured out the loopholes if he was patient. though he also would have killed historia and rod right there and not be able to use the loophole to begin with. and I don't think he could have convinced ymir if he got into the path dimension (however that even works). he's not good with kids.

also the whole child soldier thing would have been better if they actually acted like child soldiers. gabi is a chipper happy shonen protagonist, reiner is a normal kind of depressed soldier, and the others are just other anime archetypes. annie is as close as it gets. I think isayama probably doesn't know much about the world outside japan.
 
Levi's conscious, and he's going to kill Zeke. Yes, he tanked a blast that literally sent a guy into another dimension with minimal damage.

I mean, I knew he was gonna survive, but I didn't think he was gonna get off that easy. Isayama held him hostage for ten months over nothing.
 
Now he has scars that make him even sexier to people.

But fucking lol, "With the power of friendship we will destroy a living God. Even though Reiner was beat to shit by Eren every time and he has an army of sky-scraper men."

I swear to fuck this is going to rip off the shitty ending of Code Geass: "I was only trying to pretend to be the bad guy so the world would unite."

Like honestly, what is their plan? Eren has Godlike powers and could just instantly kill anyone who came at him. Of course, Isayama won't do that. But he's never been consistent.
 
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