Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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I think the message the series is pushing is that even if the Eldians are just tools of Marley, they're still a race that can be turned into giant, superpowered cannibals with a single injection. So it doesn't really matter what the Eldians themselves want, or what they've even done voluntarily. They're a threat by virtue of their mere existence. It's an incredibly hateful, miserable universe that Isayama has written for these characters, the Eldians are in a kill or be killed situation, which is why the Cringevengers are so fucking stupid.

Wasn't normal titans being not a threat to modern society a big plot point? Like their only real use in modern warfare is as easily deploy-able mass unless they're either one of the super special titans or lead by the superest specialist titan. Plus the injections only work on one race of people and are a rare resource. Its not like they're a real threat by a virtue of their existence anymore.
 
We've got confirmation for when the manga will end, it's in either May or June, probably June because of filler.

Even if Eren kills the Cringevengers before the next chapter is halfway done, six chapters is not enough time to explain everything, deal with Eren's guilt, show the Rumbling's completion, show the new world in complete detail, Ymir's rebirth, and Historia and Ymir proving the emotional support to keep Eren from killing himself.

Isayama would really have to rush the shit out the story to get through all that, and if the Cringevengers win, he'll have to show even more.
Wrong, What filler are you even talking about? 34th volume will be released on May or June but manga will end in magazine earlier. 3 chapters left to fill that tankobon, manga will end in March. https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Attack_on_Titan_chapters
 
Three chapters? That's even worse then I could've imagined.
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Only “reasonable” ending left is some cut ending at the climax of the confrontation that has some lone panel that says “___ years later” with some vague scenery that allows theory crafters to go crazy.

That way Isayama can then make light novels, spin offs, games as an Eldian soldier, live action/theater works on the Great Titan War 100 years ago, etc
This will allow the franchise to be sucked dry while lulling fans in a sense of a fulfilling 10-year-spanning conclusion.
 
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This thing really is gonna end with Eren just suddenly dying of Titan Cancer, isn't it?

its gonna be revealed that it was annie, all along that had the coordinate
then she'll turn into a magnificent bird and peacefully eradicate peoples ability to turn into titans before they dance in a circle
 
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Wait, seriously, 3 chapters? Either how...does...what the fuck. I don't see how this ends in 3 chapters without Eren just going 'lol' and roflstomping everyone, Eren insta dying or Eren losing on purpose (with Hange dying this looks like less of a possibility).

There has been so much trash filler, squeezing the ending into 6 chapters (if its 3 fucking lol) is retarded.
 
Wasn't normal titans being not a threat to modern society a big plot point? Like their only real use in modern warfare is as easily deploy-able mass unless they're either one of the super special titans or lead by the superest specialist titan. Plus the injections only work on one race of people and are a rare resource. Its not like they're a real threat by a virtue of their existence anymore.
Whether or not the Eldians are useful in war anymore is almost irrelevant. They're an ethnic group that can be transformed into giant, cannibal monsters with a single injection. Genocides throughout human history have been committed for far less. Imagine if, IRL, your kids were going to school with other kids, who, with a single needle, could turn into massive supernatural monsters that required a full-blown military intervention to stop. Even if you're the most tolerant man in the world, you'd want those titan kids going to a different school, and preferably in a different town entirely. There is no real peaceful solution. Marley and Marley's enemies make no secret about how much they hate Eldians. The moment they stop being useful, they're all dead.

its gonna be revealed that it was annie, all along that had the coordinate
then she'll turn into a magnificent bird and peacefully eradicate peoples ability to turn into titans before they dance in a circle

The final chapter is just Levi explaining how grateful he is to Annie for killing Petra, because she was pregnant and he didn't want to pay child support.
 
Genocides throughout human history have been committed for far less. Imagine if, IRL, your kids were going to school with other kids, who, with a single needle, could turn into massive supernatural monsters that required a full-blown military intervention to stop. Even if you're the most tolerant man in the world, you'd want those titan kids going to a different school, and preferably in a different town entirely

What are you talking about that is badass. I'm telling my kids to seduce Eldians so I get supernatural monster grandkids.

The needles are explicitly derived from titans. They're explicitly a military technology. There isn't any way the quite kid can jab someone with a needle and have them go on a rampage, unless he's sponsored by the military for some reason. Its not a realistic threat, anyone that could turn an Eldian into a Titan could do more damage for less effort by just planting a bomb in the same place. I'm not saying it would be trivial to remove the racism and have everyone live as equals, I'm saying that "Look dude they can turn into a weak weapon if injected by spinal fluid" isn't really a us-or-them we must commit genocide situation. There are plenty of peaceful solutions.
 
What are you talking about that is badass. I'm telling my kids to seduce Eldians so I get supernatural monster grandkids.

The needles are explicitly derived from titans. They're explicitly a military technology. There isn't any way the quite kid can jab someone with a needle and have them go on a rampage, unless he's sponsored by the military for some reason. Its not a realistic threat, anyone that could turn an Eldian into a Titan could do more damage for less effort by just planting a bomb in the same place. I'm not saying it would be trivial to remove the racism and have everyone live as equals, I'm saying that "Look dude they can turn into a weak weapon if injected by spinal fluid" isn't really a us-or-them we must commit genocide situation. There are plenty of peaceful solutions.
And you expect the common man to understand that?
 
I don't watch the show nor read the manga anymore, but I saw the anime was trending and I had to see what was going on out of morbid curiosity. I saw a clip of Reiner going out to a festival (?) with Reiner, Bert, and Annie 2.0 (I don't know the kids' names) and spoiling them a little by buying them good food and ice cream and stuff. I thought it was pretty adorable, not gonna lie. So different from the edgy grimdark hell that is the rest of this show. I wish there were more of those lighthearted moments, similar to how it was at the beginning. It gave some levity and occasional breathers to an otherwise really bleak manga.
 
yeah the story is black pilled

isayama is metal, imagine if he fucking controlled himself and read novels like asoiaf which he apparently likes a lot for practice before writing this mess. if he had training, he'd be so good

Which just makes the racism in AoT even dumber, and more convoluted.
imo, aot is written like shit and there are basically no characters besides Eren, but that part is really good. it shows that because there's racism in this world, there's no way the eldians have a snowball chance in hell in theirs. it's dark
 
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I like how the Marleyans are so bad Eren literally had to genocide the entire world to make them look even remotely good.
 
imo, aot is written like shit and there are basically no characters besides Eren, but that part is really good.
I strongly disagree with this.

Eren's character has been so mishandled it's fucking mindboggling. He literally has every right to be what he current is, and yet no one fucking focuses on it. He's a bloodthirsty violent lunatic who traumatized and used for his entire life, and instead of focusing on that and have his entire current character be foreshadowed for the entire series, AoT decides to focus on racism, and bigotry that's foundation is so fucking convoluted, and over-the-top it makes the racism and bigotry in Code Geass look non-existent as the reason he's like this, and act like he was never fucked up in the first place.

This arc at one point kind of tried to briefly fix this (I think) with the flashback of his mom getting eaten, but it doesn't mention all the other shit he went through and has fucking done. And to top it all off, his edgelord mentality makes him feel like a whiny brat when again, it should make perfect sense.

I've said this many times, but Genocidal!Eren isn't a bad concept at all, and when you look at his entire character, makes sense. It's literally everything around it, and the motivations given for it that make it not work.
 
I strongly disagree with this.

Eren's character has been so mishandled it's fucking mindboggling. He literally has every right to be what he current is, and yet no one fucking focuses on it. He's a bloodthirsty violent lunatic who traumatized and used for his entire life, and instead of focusing on that and have his entire current character be foreshadowed for the entire series, AoT decides to focus on racism, and bigotry that's foundation is so fucking convoluted, and over-the-top it makes the racism and bigotry in Code Geass look non-existent as the reason he's like this, and act like he was never fucked up in the first place.

This arc at one point kind of tried to briefly fix this (I think) with the flashback of his mom getting eaten, but it doesn't mention all the other shit he went through and has fucking done. And to top it all off, his edgelord mentality makes him feel like a whiny brat when again, it should make perfect sense.

I've said this many times, but Genocidal!Eren isn't a bad concept at all, and when you look at his entire character, makes sense. It's literally everything around it, and the motivations given for it that make it not work.
I mean, if I went with this storyline for AoT (and I wouldn't, since I don't have a boner for the Nazis are the real Jews), the entire motivation for Eren would be focused on abuse. That his feelings were mishandled from the beginning and he was only seen as a weapon. Maybe he thought he was part of the scouts and Erwin said that to him, but maybe after one event Erwin snaps and a moment of anger tells him he's their weapon to use. Slowly break down that foundation of idolization.

Realize they care more about his use as a machine than a person. Make his friends flippant about this, saying its for the greater good. Have Levi be incredibly abusive for it. Make him blame Eren for Petra's death when it wasn't his fault. Make Mikasa only want to protect him, but incapable of dealing with him emotionally. Make her fuck up noticing the signs.

Then, at the return to Shiganshina, he just fucking breaks. He realizes everything was just a sham for some bullshit some assholes did centuries before any of them were even born. He's a weapon? So he becomes one. He becomes the fucking wrath of God. That is his goal. He doesn't consider it a genocide, he considers it natural, because that is what he was made for. He'd compare it to earthquakes or floods or mudslides.

He just suffers a total psychotic break. "Genocide? No. A gun does not care about the person its bullet hits. A sword doesn't think about the person it cuts down. I am a weapon. Old and young, man and woman. Weapons do not discriminate. Their motivations are pure and honest: To destroy the enemy. I am doing what is natural to me."

He'd be suffering from Dissociative Disorder, in that, all that abuse and telling him he wasn't human, he'd feel disconnected from his body. And that disconnect causes him to lose his sense of self and his mind, only to fully embrace the horror that they wanted. Eren should be framed as a consequence of their desires. They wanted him to be a weapon, an engine of destruction, so he become one in complete form and function. There's no negotiation anymore. No redemption. He's completely lost, and there is no coming back for him.

Not to mention his plans completely come to fruition. Have him dispassionately murder his friends one by one, until Mikasa is the only one left. Eren wins completely. Everything is destroyed and the death toll is beyond counting. When she finds Eren, all he says to her is: "When a weapon is done, it must be sheathed." And he kills himself. Mikasa is the horrified, lone survivor.

Of course, it is an interesting road to go down, you reap what you sow. The problem is that the scouts aren't framed as abusive and Eren's abuse is basically ignored, so the whole thing is completely fucked.
 
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