Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[D is for Stupid]

Isn't that like that Indy Nerd Culture drone on YouTube who interviewed Kengle about this?

Kengle boil burger is trying to have breaking news, he doesn't know anything, no one knows.

Chris is going somewhere, but we don't know and no ones talking yet.

 

[Ass Johnson]

While I don't know this system, "transportation order" without a corresponding "transfer" is normally movement within the system. Most often to bring the meat sack to court. The Judge probably wants to talk to Chris and have him affirm the agreement. And also insure that he understand any and all probation requirements.

This makes sense.

However, it could be possible that they are awaiting a spot at a facility to open up before executing the transfer. iirc, he was transferred to Western on/about Feb 28th, but his previous hearing was a few weeks earlier.

 

[420thCommando]

Hmm I've heard that mentioned here before. That Chris would take advantage of a passed out girl. I agree it would enter his mind but I can't truly determine likelihood.

If he actually liked the chick I think he would atleast have some counterimpulse going against that but it's genuinely hard to say. I dont see Chris immediately proceeding to fondling

Chris has only very lately, and not thoroughly, understood not to touch people, despite decades attempts to try teach it. It's mostly controlled these days, but it's still an everpresent impulse; when ever Chris can grab Free Hugs, Chris will grab Free Hugs (hence, Bronies). 10-15 years ago there was far less control.
This is maybe one of the trans saga's lasting achievements: Chris hung around with the local queer community IRL and from the looks was quite happy (I missed out those years), as well as online with trans ppl, and at least by the former for the first time seems to have been well liked and accepted. The latter are more mixed presumably, because of a pronounced tendency to whiteknight and fawn over Chris, but from what I've seen they'd very like give Chris a piece of their mind over incedents of inappropriate touching. The queer community is quite insistent about this, and might just be able to explain it in a Chris-comprehensible way. Chris is still all huggy these days, and always will be I think (reson below) but usually not anymore without permission. Compared to 15 years ago, it has much improved.

Also, Chris had previous to the stay at Western somehow already figured that lay exorcisms must not be performed without getting permission from the loony ward staff in charge. And I don't think this understanding was based on a thorough study of the pertinent Catholic doctrine. The original CWC was not into exorcisms yet, but had he been, 5 bucks says he'd launched himself right at it with no restraint. To have Chris ask for permission before setting out to do something jackassed (and being denied permission, not doing it anyway) is a great step forward. Chris is not incapable of social learning, but not by any normal or straight road.

On counterimpulse I would not count. Chris thinks that attraction ordained by cosmic forces is always mutual, no matter the outward signs, simply due to it being ordained by cosmic forces. The True Sweethart cannot resist, because this is not what the True Sweethart does. Any indications to the contrary would be dismissed as illusionary, if it was perceived at all. (This was abundantly documented during the Anniebananny and subsequent years.)

And as a final note, Chris' touching people is not the horniness of a drunken fratboy, it is a gut-level craving for a specific type of tactile sensation; the sexual aspect is secondary. ASD and altered pressure sensitivity is a universe unto itself. Squeezing and getting squeezed gives Chris a feeling presumably much similar in type to the touch sensation during a blowjob or rimming does for people who are into that. (I don't mean orgasm, but that suspenseful brain-rushing tingling as an orgasm start to build up.)

 

[Shanndog]

I will say that I personally am glad that Chris is most likely going to a group home instead of jail. I feel this way because in a group home, which is more tailored to psychiatric cases, Chris might get the true and honest mental help that he actually needs instead of just being locked up with normal assholes.
Maybe now he can be truly rehabilitated (It's Chris so maybe this is just wishful thinking) and start to possibly straiten some of his life out.

He absolutely should not ever be allowed to go back to 14 Branchland Court even if Barb isn't there. I really hope the bank takes the house and sells it off.

hell never be rehabilitated, hes been delusional and ill since young school age, its just been too long, but they can at least monitor him 24/7 and some whats stabilize him and place him in mandated therapy and much needed anti-psychotic meds to hopefully at lest get him to a point of seeing some level of reality

 

[NaggotFigger]

He waived that right a long time ago, when he wouldn't stop blathering on about how autistic he is like it was an achievement

The slippery little eel has all but skated out of SOR , Him and his autism card and Heilburg making this about "my client's mental state after years of online bullying." This is the boondocks R kelly trial episode only even more retarded. Instead of turning a terrible sex crime into a race debate. It turned a terrible sex crime into a debate about handling tards like Chris with kid gloves cause "MUH TISM SHE DIDUNT KNOW BETTER HUR HUR!"

Except that Chris is too retarded to realize it, and will put up excuses about his "autism". Regardless, he's just a delusional and retarded autistic guy. If he didn't forced to rape Barb, then he would still end up slightly better. But then, no way is he going to look back. His mental state is just nothing but "Merge" and "thinks" that he's "Jesus" or shit.

 

[Shanndog]

Here’s the real question. Would a group home allow Chris to have his possessions?
If he’s allowed to have someone gather his things, or have a police escorted trip to collect them, then he would have no reason to sneak back into 14blc. If he’s not allowed to have his games and toys, I see this as the bigger issue. Of course, an enabler getting Chris’s trust to gather said things for him would likely happen:

most group homes allow you to have your own possessions and interests, but the amount and what is allowed and not, varies from home to home and depends on level of home also the reason you are in a group home, but no matter those details, in all homes, the resident must keep their space clean, and they can only keep what they can reasonably fit in their own allotted space whether that be one bedroom, or half of a bedroom; , and it oftentimes needs to be for the most part age-appropriate, so a few collectibles is fine, a few small lego kits or toys is fine, a room filled full of young child and baby toys, nope, not allowed, and they also cannot have things that negatively enable, impact, feed into or are detrimental to their mental health issues if that is the case oh why they are in a supported or supervised home.

 

[Lancelot]

Chris has only very lately, and not thoroughly, understood not to touch people, despite decades attempts to try teach it. It's mostly controlled these days, but it's still an everpresent impulse; when ever Chris can grab Free Hugs, Chris will grab Free Hugs (hence, Bronies). 10-15 years ago there was far less control.
This is maybe one of the trans saga's lasting achievements: Chris hung around with the local queer community IRL and from the looks was quite happy (I missed out those years), as well as online with trans ppl, and at least by the former for the first time seems to have been well liked and accepted. The latter are more mixed presumably, because of a pronounced tendency to whiteknight and fawn over Chris, but from what I've seen they'd very like give Chris a piece of their mind over incedents of inappropriate touching. The queer community is quite insistent about this, and might just be able to explain it in a Chris-comprehensible way. Chris is still all huggy these days, and always will be I think (reson below) but usually not anymore without permission. Compared to 15 years ago, it has much improved.

Also, Chris had previous to the stay at Western somehow already figured that lay exorcisms must not be performed without getting permission from the loony ward staff in charge. And I don't think this understanding was based on a thorough study of the pertinent Catholic doctrine. The original CWC was not into exorcisms yet, but had he been, 5 bucks says he'd launched himself right at it with no restraint. To have Chris ask for permission before setting out to do something jackassed (and being denied permission, not doing it anyway) is a great step forward. Chris is not incapable of social learning, but not by any normal or straight road.

On counterimpulse I would not count. Chris thinks that attraction ordained by cosmic forces is always mutual, no matter the outward signs, simply due to it being ordained by cosmic forces. The True Sweethart cannot resist, because this is not what the True Sweethart does. Any indications to the contrary would be dismissed as illusionary, if it was perceived at all. (This was abundantly documented during the Anniebananny and subsequent years.)

And as a final note, Chris' touching people is not the horniness of a drunken fratboy, it is a gut-level craving for a specific type of tactile sensation; the sexual aspect is secondary. ASD and altered pressure sensitivity is a universe unto itself. Squeezing and getting squeezed gives Chris a feeling presumably much similar in type to the touch sensation during a blowjob or rimming does for people who are into that. (I don't mean orgasm, but that suspenseful brain-rushing tingling as an orgasm start to build up.)

" Chris touching people isn't horniness."

Well most people don't view hugs as purely sexual. I am aware of autists having pull towards tactile stimulation. Security blankets etc.

I do think you may be over stating the bearing that has in his behaviour. Nearly everyone desires contact. It's basic biology that holding onto someone for 15 to 20 seconds in a huge releases hormones stimulating attachment and calm. Oxytocin I think

Regardless the more key aspect to delve into here is boundaries and consent.

1: it's important to distinguish between Chris's fundamental thoughts and perception; versus stapled on fantasy justifications. Chris believing in cosmic attachments and fated meetings might EVENTUALLY cause him to take advantage of someone. Perfect example is barb; he seemingly has thought about such things going back better part of a decade. But all signs point to the start of it happening in 2021. It took a very long time before he was able to convince himself through his shallow justifications and delusions that it was okay to do what he did. He knew it was illegal and knew it was dimly viewed by others. So he had some limited restraints holding him back.

That's a key thing . It's not that Chris doesn't partially believe the shit he espouses. It's that the self serving nature of those fantasies is a stapled on coping mechanism that he uses to get around outside restrictions and what few "morals" he has regulating his impulses.

Which goes to my ultimate point. If Chris was for some bizarre reason constantly at a place where chicks were passing out. Yes I think eventually he probably would take advantage of one once he convinced himself of some excuse.

I dont think he would just inherently do so second he had opening.

Also

" he only recently understood boundaries"

Boundaries means alot of things and at many different levels. Not holding someone down and raping them is a pretty obvious boundary. Although another might just be individually based where you notice someone doesn't want to talk about their siblings. One requires infinitely more insight and attention to sus out.

I think Chris at 20 probably knew feeling up a chick who was passed out is bad already. He just didn't realise that not every chick is okay with even limited contact from a hug of the creepy fat autist who follows them round

 

[krabsahoy]

Will Chris get to keep his phone if he’s in a group home? (Sorry if it’s already been answered) I have no idea what some group homes are like, other than stuff like shared computers, but for some, they might have a phone to keep in touch with relatives if there’s things such as restricted visiting due to covid

 

[LiquidKid]

most group homes allow you to have your own possessions and interests, but the amount and what is allowed and not, varies from home to home and depends on level of home also the reason you are in a group home, but no matter those details, in all homes, the resident must keep their space clean, and they can only keep what they can reasonably fit in their own allotted space whether that be one bedroom, or half of a bedroom; , and it oftentimes needs to be for the most part age-appropriate, so a few collectibles is fine, a few small lego kits or toys is fine, a room filled full of young child and baby toys, nope, not allowed, and they also cannot have things that negatively enable, impact, feed into or are detrimental to their mental health issues if that is the case oh why they are in a supported or supervised home.

As long as he doesn’t get the insane idea of using his tugboat to rent a small office space to play with his toys and games during the day before returning to the group home at night

 

[Ass Johnson]

Will Chris get to keep his phone if he’s in a group home? (Sorry if it’s already been answered) I have no idea what some group homes are like, other than stuff like shared computers, but for some, they might have a phone to keep in touch with relatives if there’s things such as restricted visiting due to covid

It really depends on the facility, and if it's a facility that does, he will most likely need to earn the privilege to do so by being compliant. That might take some time.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

It's literally shit that doesn't happen. Ever. And it just did.

So the judge has exercised some extraordinary power that no one has ever seen used before?

 

[Rioh]

Living in Bob’s personal Hell is really weird

 

[Muu]

So is that it?...the end of Chris Chan. Ironic the last saga in his life, in a life in front of camera to the world was the most private and unknown.

 

[FinnSven]

As long as he doesn’t get the insane idea of using his tugboat to rent a small office space to play with his toys and games during the day before returning to the group home at night

That would require planning and dealing with people outside of his realm of experience.

 

[Larry Vaughn]

most group homes allow you to have your own possessions and interests, but the amount and what is allowed and not, varies from home to home and depends on level of home also the reason you are in a group home, but no matter those details, in all homes, the resident must keep their space clean, and they can only keep what they can reasonably fit in their own allotted space whether that be one bedroom, or half of a bedroom; , and it oftentimes needs to be for the most part age-appropriate, so a few collectibles is fine, a few small lego kits or toys is fine, a room filled full of young child and baby toys, nope, not allowed, and they also cannot have things that negatively enable, impact, feed into or are detrimental to their mental health issues if that is the case oh why they are in a supported or supervised home.

Yeah no. The amount of copium y'all are huffing is ridiculous. I've seen people have these punishment fantasies for Chris, and it's hilarious that people are like, "Oh b-b-b-but WSH will help him!" or "Maybe jail will beat some sense into him!"

"Age-appropriate interests" I bursted out laughing at this, because it simply ain't true. The resident's property, is the resident's property. Unless the resident is explicitly not allowed to have an item, nobody can say shit to them. Unless Chris has taken up battery swallowing, he can likely take most of the toys from his house. The question is how much he can fit in his allocated area.

"They cannot have things that feed into their mental health issues" Y'all good? I'm asking for real. This is retarded. Counselors and staff can at best encourage them to part ways with these items, but just taking them is tantamount to theft.

So the judge has exercised some extraordinary power that no one has ever seen used before?

No. What the judge has exercised is something that is rarely used. It was only passed into law in 2020, although there was likely an earlier precedent.

 

[Cockadoodle85]

Chris has only very lately, and not thoroughly, understood not to touch people, despite decades attempts to try teach it. It's mostly controlled these days, but it's still an everpresent impulse; when ever Chris can grab Free Hugs, Chris will grab Free Hugs (hence, Bronies). 10-15 years ago there was far less control.
This is maybe one of the trans saga's lasting achievements: Chris hung around with the local queer community IRL and from the looks was quite happy (I missed out those years), as well as online with trans ppl, and at least by the former for the first time seems to have been well liked and accepted. The latter are more mixed presumably, because of a pronounced tendency to whiteknight and fawn over Chris, but from what I've seen they'd very like give Chris a piece of their mind over incedents of inappropriate touching. The queer community is quite insistent about this, and might just be able to explain it in a Chris-comprehensible way. Chris is still all huggy these days, and always will be I think (reson below) but usually not anymore without permission. Compared to 15 years ago, it has much improved.

Also, Chris had previous to the stay at Western somehow already figured that lay exorcisms must not be performed without getting permission from the loony ward staff in charge. And I don't think this understanding was based on a thorough study of the pertinent Catholic doctrine. The original CWC was not into exorcisms yet, but had he been, 5 bucks says he'd launched himself right at it with no restraint. To have Chris ask for permission before setting out to do something jackassed (and being denied permission, not doing it anyway) is a great step forward. Chris is not incapable of social learning, but not by any normal or straight road.

On counterimpulse I would not count. Chris thinks that attraction ordained by cosmic forces is always mutual, no matter the outward signs, simply due to it being ordained by cosmic forces. The True Sweethart cannot resist, because this is not what the True Sweethart does. Any indications to the contrary would be dismissed as illusionary, if it was perceived at all. (This was abundantly documented during the Anniebananny and subsequent years.)

And as a final note, Chris' touching people is not the horniness of a drunken fratboy, it is a gut-level craving for a specific type of tactile sensation; the sexual aspect is secondary. ASD and altered pressure sensitivity is a universe unto itself. Squeezing and getting squeezed gives Chris a feeling presumably much similar in type to the touch sensation during a blowjob or rimming does for people who are into that. (I don't mean orgasm, but that suspenseful brain-rushing tingling as an orgasm start to build up.)

Nigga a horny creep stop making up bullshit excuses

 

[Whaler]

Hmm I've heard that mentioned here before. That Chris would take advantage of a passed out girl. I agree it would enter his mind but I can't truly determine likelihood.

If he actually liked the chick I think he would atleast have some counterimpulse going against that but it's genuinely hard to say. I dont see Chris immediately proceeding to fondling

You're talking about a tard who drew "shecameforcwc" so he wouldn't rape Megan. He's also shown time after time that he has no care for the consequences of his actions, as long as he gets what he wants at the time.

 

[Penis]

Here's what would happen if Chris sneaked back to 14BLC. He'd take one look at where all his old toys and sonichu drawings were and have a tard rage at Barb for throwing them out. Police get called, back in jail.

 

[I raped a dog 2day]

It’s being closed leads me to believe he’s going to some kind of hospital and/or his mental health is going to play a roll in the case. HIPAA can be pretty strict and if a case DOES hinge on his mental health, everything about it will be closed up.

I don’t think they’re trying to let him go entirely free as much as they want to figure out exactly what kind of tard housing they’re putting him in. He’s proven, multiple times, that he’s not capable of making good decisions or taking care of himself so they don’t want to just let him run free. Prison isn’t equipped to deal with him either; he’d get his ass kicked on a daily basis there and that’s just not something they want to deal with.

 

[Shanndog]

Yeah no. The amount of copium y'all are huffing is ridiculous. I've seen people have these punishment fantasies for Chris, and it's hilarious that people are like, "Oh b-b-b-but WSH will help him!" or "Maybe jail will beat some sense into him!"

"Age-appropriate interests" I bursted out laughing at this, because it simply ain't true. The resident's property, is the resident's property. Unless the resident is explicitly not allowed to have an item, nobody can say shit to them. Unless Chris has taken up battery swallowing, he can likely take most of the toys from his house. The question is how much he can fit in his allocated area.

"They cannot have things that feed into their mental health issues" Y'all good? I'm asking for real. This is retarded. Counselors and staff can at best encourage them to part ways with these items, but just taking them is tantamount to theft.



No. What the judge has exercised is something that is rarely used. It was only passed into law in 2020, although there was likely an earlier precedent.

i worked for adult social services in 3 different states for just over 20 years, and this was my experience in the homes we provided, also a friend of mine who worked in group homes in Massachusetts, this w as pretty much the same as her agency provider as well. so you dont get to dispel me as false since each program does things differently, but this was typical of the DD/MR adult homes that we ran and managed. maybe the homes you have dealt with is completely different, but this was how ours and quite a few similar agency providers homes were that i or coworkers had been affiliated with at one point or another.