Aug 11 2022 - Case updated with "Waive right to indictment" and "transportation order" - Review scheduled for next year

[actually a cat]

Welp, marked my calendar for a year from now. Always figured it would end with a trip to the loony bin.

 

[Random Troll]

Chris's case has been sealed and "closed" but not dismissed nor has his charges been fully dropped. His sentence has been deferred. So despite all our jokes about Chris being so big a delusional egotist, that he'd see himself as totally innocent and refuse to admit otherwise. Heilburg DID manage to convince him to plead guilty. As much as it must have pained Chris to do so. His case will be reopened and reviewed in a year. Assuming Chris doesn't fuck up his probation and goes right back to jail and the case is reopened without the court going so lenient on him this time.

No, chris probably would not have had to plead guilty. As far as I know this is a deferred disposition, not a deferred sentence. So the case is on hold for now, without a guilty or non-guilty plea, and without conviction. (but what the hell do I know)

Perhaps chris will be transferred to jail again, until there is space available in a group home.
edit: never mind, you may be right, I thought the "without entering a judgment of guilt" was about the plea.

 

[Jason Wynn]

Is this is the beginning of the One Flew Over the Sonichu’s Nest saga?

Chris does remind me a little of Cheswick from that movie

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

So pretty much guaranteed that Heilberg waived off the grand jury and got a pre-trial agreement where Chris accepts indictment and serves a period of probation to avoid going to trial.

My question: Why hasn't said agreement been entered into court records? Will it ever be released to the public?

 

[Jack Awful]

Perhaps chris will be transferred to jail again, until there is space available in a group home.

What if the group homes know about Chris Chan and how if they take him in they'll attract trolls, so they said "fuck off, we're full".

 

[Gutter Bunny]

THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END

This is the story of a man named Chris.

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

What if the group homes know about Chris Chan and how if they take him in they'll attract trolls, so they said "fuck off, we're full".

On that same note, running a halfway home for wayward retards can be something of a scam itself, from what I've heard.

So there's as much chance Chris is saddled with a bad actor as much he himself is.

 

[Ophelia]

Maybe he’ll go to the crooked home we saw on 60 Minutes

 

[Two Yum Yums]

Where I live, someone who's going to trial for a crime and uses a mental disorder as a defence is sent to a forensic psychiatric hospital for an assessment period. They'll see psychiatrists/psychologists semi-regularly who will eventually be asked to produce a report on whether the defendant's mental disorder was what directly caused them to commit the crime. This will then influence the decision as to whether they're fit to stand trial, and if/when convicted, whether they'll serve their sentence in the hospital or in a prison. This would explain the deferred date: it gives them a year to do this.

Forensic psychiatric hospitals will have specific, gender segregated tard-wards. They are basically group homes for offenders- can't leave, few liberties, ability to restrain patients, are able to force medications. The ones I'm familiar with generally had paedophiles or violent offenders in there. In short, he'll be surrounded by sex-offending men with learning difficulties: reunited with his own people at last. I can't see the troon behaviour lasting in there very long, Magichan's not gonna save him from grabby hands.

I could be really wrong on this though, I'm not from the U.S so dunno how similar the systems may be. I assume whatever update that comes next will say whether he's been moved to another facility, or released.

 

[anti SJW]

Ok, if this has already been posted, I am sorry, just link me there. If Chris ends up in a tard house with a mention that he is able to take advantage of someone helpless, what does it mean for him? Can he use the internet? Can he write letters? If he doxes the location of a tard house and let's be real, he will, it's gonna become a ween Mecca. Will he be allowed to leave the house unsupervised? Because if he will, he would try to go to 14BC. Could it be that he is transferred into mental facility to determine if he is, well, autistic enough to use Sonichu defense?

I think it depends on what charges He is facing and how secure the place He is at is.
I don't think He will be allowed to leave unsupervised. He will be highly monitored due to the nature of the charges.

Since He is mayor of CWCville, they may be going for a diplomatic immunity defense.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Ok, if this has already been posted, I am sorry, just link me there. If Chris ends up in a tard house with a mention that he is able to take advantage of someone helpless, what does it mean for him? Can he use the internet? Can he write letters? If he doxes the location of a tard house and let's be real, he will, it's gonna become a ween Mecca. Will he be allowed to leave the house unsupervised? Because if he will, he would try to go to 14BC.

Answer to all questions: Nobody knows. There's so singular set of rules for a tard home. It depends entirely on the facility he winds up at and what the terms of his probation are. Currently we do not know any of these things.

Could it be that he is transferred into mental facility to determine if he is, well, autistic enough to use Sonichu defense?

No, Heilberg could not even attempt the Sonichu defense motion unless all the evaluations had already been made.

Also, from now on I want all attempts to use this or similar statutes to be referred to as the "Sonichu Defense".

They are deferring prosecution until next year so long as he keeps up with the diversion plan they have put him on

Technically what it's deferring is the disposition -- i.e. the resolution. When implemented, it means they have already determined guilt on an evidentiary basis. This takes place after the guilty plea (or trial, in the case of a not-guilty plea). The facts already show guilt, so there's nothing left to prosecute. All that happens if Chris fucks up is they haul him in for a new hearing where they decide how bad his fuckup is, and if it's bad enough they go straight to sentencing.

No, chris probably would not have had to plead guilty. As far as I know this is a deferred disposition, not a deferred sentence. So the case is on hold for now, without a guilty or non-guilty plea, and without conviction. (but what the hell do I know)

Perhaps chris will be transferred to jail again, until there is space available in a group home.
edit: never mind, you may be right, I thought the "without entering a judgment of guilt" was about the plea.

Cbris doesn't have to plead guilty, he can also be found guilty at trial. The deferred disposition part happens in sentencing. Obviously pleading guilty will make the court more receptive to the idea, though.

So pretty much guaranteed that Heilberg waived off the grand jury and got a pre-trial agreement where Chris accepts indictment and serves a period of probation to avoid going to trial.

"Waive" is different from "wave".

Chris waived his right to not be prosecuted on a felony without indictment. Or for short, he waived the indictment.

My question: Why hasn't said agreement been entered into court records? Will it ever be released to the public?

The reason Heilberg gave was to not prejudice potential jurors. If Chris enters into such an agreement, that means that there will be no trial (since trial was never set), so that reasoning is no longer valid.

A very motivated journalist could attempt to get at least some of the records unsealed for this purpose. However, if Chris entered a guilty plea (rather than determination of guilt via a bench or jury trial), then sensitive parts of evidence may remain sealed for privacy reasons, since they were not necessary for a trial as a trial never happened. Medical records will also remain sealed.

The court, however, is required to be targeted in what they keep sealed, and only refuse disclosure of the minimum amount necessary to achieve those ends. This being the case, said motivated journalist could demand documents with the sensitive parts redacted. This would mean anything involving Barb would probably be blacked out, as well as any mention about Chris' medical evaluations, but the rest should be fair game. Unfortunately most of the documents will concern these things, and any proceedings that happened in J&DR (i.e. almost everything) will have not been documented since it is not a court of record -- just the results/orders/etc.

One thing we can probably get, however, is the precise requirements of Chris' probation.

 

[My Name is Mud]

I'm willing to bet that Chris is getting "out" (and put in a tard home or something similar) and on probation, and that Heilberg specifically asked the court for utmost secrecy. They sealed the records specifically so we wouldn't know where Chris is, because Heilberg knew that weens would find Chris and needle him and push him into doing something retarded that would get him into even more trouble. He knows how his client is and how easy it is for him to get trolled and he doesn't want to risk any violation of his probation terms caused by niggers on the Internet.
Just some speculation.

 

[Sho'nuff]

If the deal is for deferred disposition, to the best of my knowledge he will not have to register as a sex offender, even if the crime warrants it, because his status will not have been decided yet. Deferred disposition basically freezes the proceedings at the very end to right before the judge would pass a sentence.

If, on the other hand, he is only given a suspended sentence, then he has been convicted and would have to register if so required for the crime.



The thing to watch for is what the new status is. If it's "Another Facility" then that means he is still in custody, just not at the jail, and probably in medical care. This is what happened when he was sent to WSH.

If it says "Released", that means he is no longer in custody, and he could be anywhere. A medical facility (if he received civil commitment -- the key word being "civil" rather than "criminal"), a tard home, 14BC, a homeless shelter, on the street, etc. It just means that he is no longer in the custody of the justice system. (but almost certainly still restricted by probation).

If it says "Released" but we don't hear from him, then he is either in a tard home with strict rules (more likely), or he has received civil commitment and is in a mental hospital.



I believe "REVIEW" can mean a number of things, not just an attorney review. I am not familiar enough with Virginia to give you a definitive answer.

I assumed differed disposition would keep him out of jail, but not take away the registration requirement. Circumventing the registry seems wrong, especially considering they are differing his prison sentence, I'm not a huge fan of the registry in concept, but not actually sending someone away and letting them skate off the list is the opposite of what the registry is for.

 

[My Name is Mud]

I assumed differed disposition would keep him out of jail, but not take away the registration requirement. Circumventing the registry seems wrong, especially considering they are differing his prison sentence, I'm not a huge fan of the registry in concept, but not actually sending someone away and letting them skate off the list is the opposite of what the registry is for.

From what I understand, the disposition means the whole case has been put on "pause." He is not convicted yet, so they obviously can't but him on the SOR.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

No, Heilberg could not even attempt the Sonichu defense motion unless all the evaluations had already been made.

Also, from now on I want all attempts to use this or similar statutes to be referred to as the "Sonichu Defense".

By Sonichu defense I didn't mean insanity plea, sorry for that, I meant "my client is autistic and can't be put into prison". Thanks for other insights though.

 

[Radical Goodspeed]

From what I understand, the disposition means the whole case has been put on "pause." He is not convicted yet, so they obviously can't but him on the SOR.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, until he fucks up and/or they resume, he's technically only pled what he pled until the next hearing. He hasn't been convicted. It'd be fucked up if you could end up in the SOR without a conviction. I'm not even sure he counts as actually on probation at this stage.

The question i have, as someone who's been on deferment once, is his completion in exchange for a lighter sentence, or will all charges be dropped upon completion? We wont know until he does, but there is the possibility that he technically walks away, completely off the hook, by just doing what he's told.

 

[Hack for crack]

Imagine Chris being the case of your career. I think the lawyer knows this is the only moment from his life that will ever be remembered 200 years from now. (Yes, I do think there will be a small amount of future Christorians in 2223)

 

[DeeCeeBees]

If he has been ejacutlated in to the general public I wonder how long before he's given an Obamaphone and downloads Twitter.

Then all of our questions may be answered.

 

[My Name is Mud]

Imagine Chris being the case of your career. I think the lawyer knows this is the only moment from his life that will ever be remembered 200 years from now. (Yes, I do think there will be a small amount of future Christorians in 2223)

Nuh, Heilberg is the big jew shark lawyer in the area. He has already done enough to be remembered in the legal world for his actual career.
But yeah, for the rest of us, and for Christory, he will always be remembered as the Tard's lawyer.

 

[Funeral for a Furry]

We all know if he had be left out with the general public, Chris would have made a statement by now.