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Northam on Abortion Bill: Infant Could Be Delivered and Then ‘Physicians and the Mother’ Could Decide If It Lives

https://freebeacon.com/issues/north...-ensue-between-the-physicians-and-the-mother/

"Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) commented Wednesday about a controversial 40-week abortion bill and in so doing said the law allows an abortion to take place after the infant's birth.


"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.


A Democratic lawmaker in the Virginia House of Delegates proposed a bill Tuesday that would allow abortions through the end of the third trimester of pregnancy. The video of Delegate Kathy Tran presenting her bill led to an exchange where she admitted that her bill would allow for a mother to abort her child minutes before giving birth.


"How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated that it would impair the mental health of the woman?" Majority Leader Todd Gilbert (R.) asked.


"Or physical health," Tran said.


"Okay," Gilbert replied. "I'm talking about the mental health."


"I mean, through the third trimester," Tran said. "The third trimester goes up to 40 weeks."


"Okay, but to the end of the third trimester?" Gilbert asked.


"Yup, I don't think we have a limit in the bill," Tran said.


"Where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she's about to give birth, would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?" Gilbert asked. "She's dilating."


Tran responded that is a decision between the woman and her doctor would have to make. Gilbert asked if her bill would allow an abortion right before the infant was born.


"My bill would allow that, yes," Tran said.


NBC4 reporter Julie Carey asked Northam about the measure.


"Do you support her measure and explain her answer?" Carey asked.


"I wasn't there, Julie. And I certainly can't speak for delegate Tran. But I would tell you one, the first think I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved," Northam said. "When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it is done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that is non-viable."


Northam continued by saying government shouldn't be involved in these types of decisions and that legislators, especially male legislators, shouldn't be telling women what to do.


"I think this was really blown out of proportion. But again we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers. And this is why Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should or shouldn't be doing with her body," Northam said.


Carey asked if the law should still require women to have multiple physicians approve an abortion.


"Well, I think it is always good to get a second opinion and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision," Northam said. "These decisions shouldn't be taken lightly."



Holy hell this is ghoulish. Fuggin' libs, I mean I swear. I KNEW it was going to come to this someday. What do you all think?
 
"I didn't realize how little sleep I'd be getting around the house, and I have more pressing matters at the moment than child rearing, so I opted to abort at 5 months post-delivery, it just wasn't working out. What do you mean "murder"? Doesn't a woman have a right to choose?! Where do you get off trying to control other people's bodies?!!!"
 
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and a little bit more 'no' on top of that for a garnish. I'm anti-abortion in general (on the general principle of 'keep it in your damn pants if you aren't prepared for it') and this is just... genuinely disgusting. You can at least argue that a fetus isn't capable of feeling pain and trauma if aborted before certain developmental milestones, but post labor? That's murder, plain and simple.
 
It's even worse than that, the article skipped the most insane part, it's in the title but not the text. They literally wanted to legalize post-birth abortions.

https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1090657473218920448

If a mother is in labor...the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians & mother
 
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Sorry men, you aren't allowed to comment on whether women should be allowed to kill their babies. Even after they're no longer part of the mother. Somehow, I'm sure this will still be argued as "My body my choice".

Funny how we keep sliding down that nonexistent slippery slope. Also partial birth abortions are totally not a thing that ever existed, but if you try to ban them you're evil and trying to control women's bodies.

Hey, only penis owners should be able to comment on the punishment for raping someone with your penis. I mean, it's easy for female lawmakers to say they wouldn't rape when they don't even have a penis, am I right fellas? My penis my choice!

Actually wait, MTF trans people might take advantage of that. That was not a serious suggestion lawmakers...
 
Good job idiots you shrieked and wailed about "muh abortion" being the most important thing to women and now stabbing a child to death on the operating table is about to be legal.

Hope you can all sleep well, I will because I never supported this.

I'm not even a pro-lifer,

You supported the idea that a baby wasn't legally a human being and this is where that road has ended. This is your fault.

Happy?
 
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"Where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she's about to give birth, would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified?" Gilbert asked. "She's dilating."
I imagine it would go something like...
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Seriously though this is horrifying and these people should be subject to their own late term abortions.
 
This is utterly disgraceful. Pro-death arguments literally don't make any sense to me. "Women have a right to choose what they want to do with their body!" - well, yeah... except a baby isn't part of your body, it's in your body. Pretty big difference.

The entire pro-death worldview hinges on the idea that children are not human beings with rights of their own, but are mere property of their mothers that can be discarded with if they're inconvenient. How long will it be until the Democrats take their thinking to its logical conclusion and start a campaign to free Andrea Yates as the victim of patriarchal oppression?
 
I guess all those medical malpractice deaths have given medical professionals a serious case of bloodlust.

It's horrifying that anyone would even consider saying this publicly as anything more than a nightmare what-if scenario. Don't want to give birth? Get your fucking tubes tied or go on the pill. There's no mystery behind how human reproduction works or how you can prevent pregnancy. If you don't use the myriad options available to you, well...

Take the sperm? Carry it to term.
 
Sorry men, you aren't allowed to comment on whether women should be allowed to kill their babies. Even after they're no longer part of the mother. Somehow, I'm sure this will still be argued as "My body my choice".

Funny how we keep sliding down that nonexistent slippery slope. Also partial birth abortions are totally not a thing that ever existed, but if you try to ban them you're evil and trying to control women's bodies.

Hey, only penis owners should be able to comment on the punishment for raping someone with your penis. I mean, it's easy for female lawmakers to say they wouldn't rape when they don't even have a penis, am I right fellas? My penis my choice!

Actually wait, MTF trans people might take advantage of that. That was not a serious suggestion lawmakers...

Well, I'm sure there's one aspect proponents would still want men involved in.

Helping to pay for it.
 
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