Jeff Heaney
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- May 19, 2017
Remember when liberals called soldiers baby killers? Good times.
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Well if I grew up and found out my mom wanted to kill me when I was born I’d rather they’d just done it than have to deal with that knowledge
Well to my knowledge there exists a group for abortion survivors. They have to have interesting relationships with their mothers. /sneed
Abortion Survivors Network
Alright then, please show me a single quote from this thread where any of those views are seriously espoused by people who are against abortion.I think it's quite relevant. It's a bit of a caricature, but one the pro life movement has never properly quashed decades later and carries a good deal of truth.
People are going to have sex, people are going to get pregnant, but the pro life movement is also tied to a party strongly against offering support for actually raising a child and activley encourages social stigma against those who do choose to have a baby rather than abort and hide their mistake.
On the other hand, the pro choice platform is ghoulish as @Cosmug says, but at the same time at least they're consistent and do address some if not all the symptoms of a problem.
Alright then, please show me a single quote from this thread where any of those views are seriously espoused by people who are against abortion.
Or better yet, any thread on KF.
"Please find me a post on a thread about 9/11 the day after that says Islam is good"
Take Planned Parenthood as a prime example. Abortion is a minor service they offer, in fact not all of their clinics even offer it and the vast majority of their funds are spent on sex education and contraception.
Now contraception causes fewer babies, but OH NO! Christians are offended! Rather than focus on abortion, let's purge America of one of the services handing out condoms that actually prevent unwanted pregnancies to start with because Jesus hates rubbers.
There are others, but I trust you get the jist. We could talk about the cost of actually giving birth, we could talk about women who can be fired for having children out of wedlock, we can talk about the lack of support in regards to maternity leave. All of these factors contribute towards the choice of an abortion, and yet because they might cost money they're ignored and the argument focuses almost entirely upon "You made Jesus cry you whore".
Oh ok. So you're just fighting a strawman because no real person has those views. OK then.
As a disclaimer, I am against abortion, but I view the pro life movement as a Thecon arm of the republican party for the most part entirely detached from reality.
What?!?You asked me to find a post on a right wing thread about insane shit left wingers do.
Can you find me a post from the Southern Baptist convention that says Atheists are right?
You can't? Checkmate atheists. You're doing literally the same thing and not actually answering my point.
This is the catch 22 the pro life movement lands itself into though, since it's basically an extension of the Religious arm of the Republican party at this point.
Woman aborts a child: She's a murderess
Woman has a child and raises it herself: She's a whore and a communist leech.
Woman gives the child up: Communism! Pay for your own children.
Child is fostered: She's literally satan for giving up her baby.
What?‽
Here. I'll help you with your own words:
Now show me a person in this discussion, or in previous discussions, who said anything remotely resembling this. We have a lot of people saying they're pro life in this very thread, so it shouldn't be that hard.
I am pretty sure they were asking about KiwiFarms and not GenericEvangelicalWebsite.com. You are really bad at dodging questions.Check any American Christian website like CatholicAnswers, Christian Forums, Suscipe Domine etc. Most of the topics are about gays, abortion, cultural marxism and communism and how any form of state support is "Communism/Socialism".
Why would a pro birth person point to a gaping flaw in their platform? They're welcome to propose an alternative, as someone who is pro life I'd be eager to hear a viable alternative.