Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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Just watched oppenheimer.
Its typcal nolan sniffing his own farts, especially when hes quoting chandrag gupta or whatever while cumming, but god damn, nolan wants to make movies and he makes whatever the fuck he wants, not what the studio wants like other hack-fraud, for-hire directors of today, (like can you believe that kenneth branagh made an MCU movie)

And i gotta respect him for that, not many directors out there today that just make their own blockbuster big budget shit without being tasked to make something by a studio (like greta gerwig with barbie).

Aside from Nolan, Tarantino and Eggers, no one comes to mind. Tarantino is about to retire, Nolan makes movies for midwits and Eggers is too arthouse, I think its over for kino, bros…
 
AnOminous said:
The main message I see from this film that I haven't seen and will not see is if you care about it, and are mad about it, you are a massive homosexual. You are seriously gayer than Milo.

Because you're lolcows? Lolcows are funny.
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Bro, aren’t you a regular fanboi poster in Vivzie’s Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss thread? One world is pink, the other is red, and all are shades of the same color.

Looks like the pot is calling the kettle a nigger.
 
InJailOutSoon said:
Out of all the the things for people to be split on, it's the fucking Barbie movie.
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It being some major culture war fight is hilarious. I understand if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but the movie really isn’t meant to be that deep.
 
Overly Serious said:
Okay. Not much scares me particularly but there's something deeply unsettling about people who just don't understand things past the superficial level. I saw Starship Troopers when it came out with a friend from another European country. We both laughed our arses off at the satire. The gestapo-like uniform that the intelligence officer wore, the fact that it was pretty clear that the humans were the aggressors on bug space when all the propaganda was about the bugs threatening innocent people, the list just goes on and on. I was shocked - and I fully mean this - when I heard lots of people in America objected to it for "glorifying fascism".

It's not the first time. I heard that the common viewpoint amongst many Americans (and I think Wikipedia followed this mindset) that Kipling's The White Man's Burden is a pro-colonial poem. PRO-colonial! :o

It's genuinely freaky to me when people don't understand satire or nuance and wholly miss subtext. Like finding out that people around you are robots or something. It makes me believe in the idea that some people don't really have soles / self-awareness and are just p-zombies.

I mean it - it's freakishly unsettling to me.
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I said this in the book to adaptation thread but when Verhoven was chosen to direct Starship Troopers, it originally was based on an unrelated screenplay called Bug Hunt at Outpost Nine written by Ed Neumeier (the same guy that wrote Robocop), someone at TriStar noticed the similarities to Starship Troopers, then licensed the novel's name and got Neumeier to re-write it. Verhoven got bored reading the book, and got Neumeier to tell him what happened.

People forget that Verhoven grew up near a German military base in the Netherlands in WWII, and had witnessed summary executions of Dutch people by German occupiers, and Allied planes bombing the base and being shot down near where he lived. That the reason why his films are so graphic is because he refuses to 'lie about the devastation it does to the human body.' (Invisible Force, American Cinematographer, August 2000). This is why he has a dim view on militarism and authoritarianism, as he lived through it (and watched people die from it).
 
NewFagWhore said:
Aside from Nolan, Tarantino and Eggers, no one comes to mind. Tarantino is about to retire, Nolan makes movies for midwits and Eggers is too arthouse, I think its over for kino, bros…
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That's a good point. Also who are 'stars' anymore? Tom Cruise is starting to look older and he's the last pretty reliable one I can think of. Leo looks like shit now, and followed up an Oscar win with a direct-to-Netflix mess. Keanu is still very bankable but is starting to show age. Spielberg seems to be done as a big movie guy. Lucas seems done. James Cameron is a weird example that makes one of the biggest successes in history once a decade or so. Goslin is a good side guy. My favorite of his was Nice Guys, great Crowe movie too who also is a bit shakey.

When I was a kid the 70s mega-director guys were still all going strong. All the 80s action stars too. Maybe there will be another young bunch of reneges like the 70s guys again (Spielberg, Lucas, Ridley Scott, Copolla, and many more) but I'm not that optimistic about it now. There was a time when a director's name was big enough to make people go see a movie. At this point I think Tarantino and Nolan are really might be the only ones that still have that power. JJ Abrams and Colin Trevarrow were supposed to be a kind of 'new breakout group during 2008-2019 but they crashed and burned hard.

I'm not surprised Barbie did huge. It'll probably be used as a case study for years to come on how to market a film right.
 
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mlanguishi said:
I'm not surprised Barbie did huge. It'll probably be used as a case study for years to come on how to market a film right.
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It's a beloved doll franchise that been around for 65 years, millions have been sold and women all over the world have had at least one Barbie. Even the "controversy" (more like shit writing but ymmv) is deliberate, imo. Bad publicity is still publicity.
 
Feline Supremacist said:
It's a beloved doll franchise that been around for 65 years, millions have been sold and women all over the world have had at least one Barbie. Even the "controversy" (more like shit writing but ymmv) is deliberate, imo. Bad publicity is still publicity.
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My main point was they didn't spoil it early like so many movies do. It had a big built-in audience of middle age women and their daughters. I mostly contrast it to Indiana Jones. IE don't premier it to a limited audience that'll shittalk your shitty movie. They did a good job mostly hiding the wokeness and not playing on that unlike 'it's called capitalism' in the damn ads like Disney did.
 
I saw it, the mixed messaging and conflicting social commentary is hard to take seriously. It literally ends with her implying she wants to be a mother, when the opening scene was girls smashing baby dolls. The hyper woke insane feminist delusionposting in between the first and last scene completely devalues itself by being indigestible and schizophrenic. The obvious non passing tranny cracked me up tho.
 
Kerr Avon said:
@AnOminous is coping and seething because Hari Nef won't return his calls
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Literally who?

Also from pic thread.
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