Barbie - A More Successful Movie than You'd Think

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XYZpdq Jr. said:
I recall pretty significant differences between the ova and he movie? And not just "the ovas have the powered suits".
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There's a few differences but if you watch them back to back it's really obvious.

They didn't do the suits in the movie because of budget. Let me be clear though, I absolutely fucking love the movie, just calling a spade a spade.
 
White Devil said:
There's a few differences but if you watch them back to back it's really obvious.

They didn't do the suits in the movie because of budget. Let me be clear though, I absolutely fucking love the movie, just calling a spade a spade.
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I def recall DISABLE HIS HAND or however it goes playing out about the same but iirc that's from the book?
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
I def recall DISABLE HIS HAND or however it goes playing out about the same but iirc that's from the book?
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There was a knife training scene in the book but iirc it had a completely different point and Zim didn't disable anyone. It had more to do with a recruit not understanding the moral and philosophical role of soldiering in the Federation. Essentially, he wasn't cut out to be a Citizen.
 
NewFagWhore said:
Just watched oppenheimer.
Its typcal nolan sniffing his own farts, especially when hes quoting chandrag gupta or whatever while cumming, but god damn, nolan wants to make movies and he makes whatever the fuck he wants, not what the studio wants like other hack-fraud, for-hire directors of today, (like can you believe that kenneth branagh made an MCU movie)

And i gotta respect him for that, not many directors out there today that just make their own blockbuster big budget shit without being tasked to make something by a studio (like greta gerwig with barbie).

Aside from Nolan, Tarantino and Eggers, no one comes to mind. Tarantino is about to retire, Nolan makes movies for midwits and Eggers is too arthouse, I think its over for kino, bros…
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Eggers career is just starting tbf. The Northman was his attempt at a more mainline blockbuster, and it didn't do very well. His style of historically conscious period pieces(in terms of the beliefs, customs, etc...) is a unique niche I hope he sticks with.

Nolan at this point has entirely bought his own hype. He can pretty much do whatever he wants for life though.

I don't care for Tarantino films tbh.
 
Ishtar said:
Nolan at this point has entirely bought his own hype. He can pretty much do whatever he wants for life though.
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I'll forgive any level of self-indulgent wankery for his Batman trilogy, even with the ludicrous and memeable opening scene of TDKR.
TVBForever said:
But yes, Death to Smoochy was a great movie.
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Too bad it was the only movie ever to star both Edward Norton and Robin Williams, because they were great together.
 
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AnOminous said:
I'll forgive any level of self-indulgent wankery for his Batman trilogy, even with the ludicrous and memeable opening scene of TDKR.
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I like TDKR, far more than most people do. Then again I could say I want to like it more than I can make myself. Beyond the pacing and jambled plot, Tom Hardy's handling of Bane it leaned a little too much into the "final battle to save the city" like Marvel. Whereas even Batman Begins mcguffin and climax wasn't as amateurish.

That said the scene where the bats show up as he jumps climbing from the Lazarus pit inspires me to this day. Also Anne Hathaway did a great Catwoman-she doesn't get the requisite credit for it.

Overall yeah I love the Batman trilogy. I never saw Tenant, but I did sit through Interstellar. I just rewatched Inception again. So I'll probably try to see Oppenheimer this weekend.
 
White Devil said:
It's not a rocket ship, it's a cock!
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:hah:
That's actually my favorite line in that movie
Ishtar said:
Overall yeah I love the Batman trilogy. I never saw Tenant, but I did sit through Interstellar. I just rewatched Inception again. So I'll probably try to see Oppenheimer this weekend.
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I'd say of all of Nolan's movies, The Prestige was the best. Dunkirk comes close and Oppenheimer and Interstellar are tied as third.
 
mlanguishi said:
That's a good point. Also who are 'stars' anymore? Tom Cruise is starting to look older and he's the last pretty reliable one I can think of. Leo looks like shit now, and followed up an Oscar win with a direct-to-Netflix mess. Keanu is still very bankable but is starting to show age. Spielberg seems to be done as a big movie guy. Lucas seems done. James Cameron is a weird example that makes one of the biggest successes in history once a decade or so. Goslin is a good side guy. My favorite of his was Nice Guys, great Crowe movie too who also is a bit shakey.
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Tom Cruise at least can act well. He started off in movies like Born on the 4th of July and his career took the direction it did because of his dedication to staying in really great shape and his willingness to literally strap himself to the outside of a plane during take-off. Age is finally catching up to him but if he chooses to continue acting, and I hope he does for as long as it still brings him joy, he can fall back on actual acting. Knight and Day is one of his lesser known films and it's a favourite of mine alongside Minority Report. Guy has some really good comedic talent, rarely capitalised on. Let us never forget Les Grossman of Tropic Thunder!
mlanguishi said:
When I was a kid the 70s mega-director guys were still all going strong. All the 80s action stars too. Maybe there will be another young bunch of reneges like the 70s guys again (Spielberg, Lucas, Ridley Scott, Copolla, and many more) but I'm not that optimistic about it now. There was a time when a director's name was big enough to make people go see a movie. At this point I think Tarantino and Nolan are really might be the only ones that still have that power. JJ Abrams and Colin Trevarrow were supposed to be a kind of 'new breakout group during 2008-2019 but they crashed and burned hard.
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The next great directors wont come up through Hollywood. They'll come up through more realistic movies or through movies that capitalise on the commodification of special effects that modern technology is enabling. I don't think we've had the breakthrough independent blockbuster yet? But we will.
mlanguishi said:
I'm not surprised Barbie did huge. It'll probably be used as a case study for years to come on how to market a film right.
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The marketing for the movie is spectacularly effective. Take two movies that lots of people wouldn't see, and present them as a choice as to which you will. Expect to see many, many awful attempts to pair movies in the same way over the next few years. It's probably going to be the equivalent of the BWAAAA-AAAAAM sound that got used in every trailer since Michael Bay's first transformers movie or skybeams. Hell, I'm going to predict right now that at least one movie will have its name altered so that it can be better paired with other movies' titles. It's probably already happened.

Ishtar said:
I like TDKR, far more than most people do. Then again I could say I want to like it more than I can make myself. Beyond the pacing and jambled plot, Tom Hardy's handling of Bane it leaned a little too much into the "final battle to save the city" like Marvel. Whereas even Batman Begins mcguffin and climax wasn't as amateurish.
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The best part of TDKR was during the finale when I leaned over to my friend and whispered "some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb."

Inspired, I tell you!

But that aside, I found some critical components of that movie prevented me from enjoying it. Batman having retired and sat on his butt for fifteen years or whatever. The class warfare elements, frankly Bane's goals and to a lesser degree wasting Talia as a character.
Ishtar said:
Also Anne Hathaway did a great Catwoman-she doesn't get the requisite credit for it.
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Certainly brought something to the role.

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Ishtar said:
At any rate, I am really concerned about the Narnia films.

Gerwig being according to google, an agnostic I think? Is a really bad choice.
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Oh, please no!

There already are some Narnia films which were good (if you like that sort of thing) and very true to the books.
 
seriously why do they keep trying to make Narnia movies a thing?
 
The Last Battle and The Horse and His Boy are way too insensitive for modern audiences. The Calormenes are not something you can handwave or ignore. Islamic demon worshipping expies. I don't have an issue with them, but modern audiences and critics will.

The Magician's Nephew could maybe work but its setting is very dated(Victorian/Edwardian Britain).
 
Now that there's going to be a Mattel cinematic universe, how do you guys think these fuckers will sneak Barbie in other movies?

I don't know about you guys, but I'm curious about how they're going to spin mothefucking Hot Wheels into a political satire.
 
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