Baseball Thread

Jazz Chisholm is one of the most annoying niggers in sports period. I hear all this media talk about how "he's such a fun loving guy from the new generation" when he does a choreographed touchdown dance on a meaningless solo homer down 7-2, but when I watch him he's always chirping and whining, going after guys on the other team, causing benches to clear, and all sorts of other niggerish garbage. I really hope someone rocks him Jose Ramirez-style one of these days. The same "let the kids play" type stuff got said about Tim Anderson and he was one of the biggest locker room cancers in baseball. Almost like Bumgarner had a point.
 
A.P. Hill said:
Jazz Chisholm is one of the most annoying niggers in sports period. I hear all this media talk about how "he's such a fun loving guy from the new generation" when he does a choreographed touchdown dance on a meaningless solo homer down 7-2, but when I watch him he's always chirping and whining, going after guys on the other team, causing benches to clear, and all sorts of other niggerish garbage. I really hope someone rocks him Jose Ramirez-style one of these days. The same "let the kids play" type stuff got said about Tim Anderson and he was one of the biggest locker room cancers in baseball. Almost like Bumgarner had a point.
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He's gotten tossed twice this year for arguing strikes hasn't he?
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
Kershaw is one of Reddit's most recent person non grata because he wrote a bible quote on his Pride Night ballcap a few weeks back.

I came across someone the other day using as evidence that he participated in a "Faith and Family" night that he should face wrath.
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I said before that I love baseball to death, I despise how it has the most Reddit fanbase of any of the major North American sports.
 
Looseleaf Paper said:
I think Hockey is worse. Baseball still has enough boomers that dislike woke stuff. Hockey is full of (may god forgive me for even uttering the word) Canadians.
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That actually makes it better, cause you can see the seething of Canadian fans (especially Leafs fans) when they lose the Stanley Cup to yet another Southern team.

I'd say NBA is the worst, just because it has the worst part of analytic autism from baseball plus a way to constantly trash older generations from their own sports. It is the only sport where I see this constant trashing of older legends because "they played against plumbers" (despite the fact these role players have every advantage the old ones didn't yet they still can't score that much in a game).
 
Señora Airi said:
That actually makes it better, cause you can see the seething of Canadian fans (especially Leafs fans) when they lose the Stanley Cup to yet another Southern team.

I'd say NBA is the worst, just because it has the worst part of analytic autism from baseball plus a way to constantly trash older generations from their own sports. It is the only sport where I see this constant trashing of older legends because "they played against plumbers" (despite the fact these role players have every advantage the old ones didn't yet they still can't score that much in a game).
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The NBA has something even worse, especially amongst the pundits: GOAT debates. Baseball is think is free of those, though.


Señora Airi said:
The real question is - is this worse than the Dodgers having a Hololive night?
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You tell me.
 
Señora Airi said:
That actually makes it better, cause you can see the seething of Canadian fans (especially Leafs fans) when they lose the Stanley Cup to yet another Southern team.

I'd say NBA is the worst, just because it has the worst part of analytic autism from baseball plus a way to constantly trash older generations from their own sports. It is the only sport where I see this constant trashing of older legends because "they played against plumbers" (despite the fact these role players have every advantage the old ones didn't yet they still can't score that much in a game).
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The plumber debate comes up constantly when discussing early 20th-century baseball players. Some people don't realize that professional sports didn't pay a full year's living wage back then and the players actually had to get jobs in the offseason. Hell, even Mickey Mantle was a steelworker in the winter months.
 
Preferred Penne said:
The plumber debate comes up constantly when discussing early 20th-century baseball players. Some people don't realize that professional sports didn't pay a full year's living wage back then and the players actually had to get jobs in the offseason. Hell, even Mickey Mantle was a steelworker in the winter months.
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There's also a comment I read that also put things in perspective; the 10s/20s have their greats going against podcasters and streamers, the 90s/00s have their greats going against actors and rappers, and the 70s/80s had their greats going against druggies.
 
Franz Joseph said:
I said before that I love baseball to death, I despise how it has the most Reddit fanbase of any of the major North American sports.
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Even Reddit surprises and confuses me sometimes.



Here's the video of Alex Cooper of the Call Her Daddy podcast (being mentioned as the Joe Rogan Experience for Gen Z women) getting booed while singing Take Me Out To The Ballgame at Wrigley Field over the weekend.

Here's the corresponding r/baseball Reddit thread about it, where the usual insufferable Redditors fucking hate her antics, despite, ya know, being a woman.

They can't even put into words what is so egregious and what they are so upset about (although half of them are like me - ??Who??).

AFAICT, they hate her because she is a slutty successful influencer (not very Reddit-like?). And because she somehow broke & dishonored the sacred Wrigley tradition of singing TMOTTBG by hamming it up e-girl style?

Maybe they hate her especially because she used to be associated with Barstool/Dave Portnoy?

I watched the clip myself, and while cringe, was very surprised that some e-thot making it all about herself made Reddit big mad.
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
AFAICT, they hate her because she is a slutty successful influencer (not very Reddit-like?). And because she somehow broke & dishonored the sacred Wrigley tradition of singing TMOTTBG by hamming it up e-girl style?
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Scanned the thread and a lot of it is ripping on her rise to fame. I was watching on ESPN and they never show the stretch, so I had to find an online recording to see what the fuss was about. Yeah - it was bad, but I think she was trying for a Harry Caray angle despite having been 3 years old when Harry died.

As for the fans in the stands, the Cubs were kicking the shit of the Cards, and I'm sure they just wanted a quick, easy stretch so they could enjoy the rest of the beatdown. Y'know - sing along, slam the rest of your beer, heckle the woeful redbirds, hit the bar after. This threw a wrench into those plans, so she got booed. If the score had been reversed, she may have needed the Bartman treatment to escape the stadium alive.
 
The Alex Cooper booing thread also taught me that she was fucking Noah Syndergaard prior to 2023 when she was a poor groupie then broke up him with and mocked him publicly when she was more successful and he was hurt and close to retirement.
 
Speaking of dudes that fucked models and are now old and on the verge of retirement: Justin Verlander is 0-6 after 14 starts with a negative WAR and an ERA of 4.84.

I really thought he had an outside chance at being the last guy to reach 300 wins after 2019, but even if you had him play two full seasons where Corona and Tommy John never happened in 2020 and 2021, he still likely stalls out around 285-290, then plays to 45 tying to pick up those last 10. He currently sits at 262, and may be the last guy to ever break 250.
 
The Big A said:
Speaking of dudes that fucked models and are now old and on the verge of retirement: Justin Verlander is 0-6 after 14 starts with a negative WAR and an ERA of 4.84.

I really thought he had an outside chance at being the last guy to reach 300 wins after 2019, but even if you had him play two full seasons where Corona and Tommy John never happened in 2020 and 2021, he still likely stalls out around 285-290, then plays to 45 tying to pick up those last 10. He currently sits at 262, and may be the last guy to ever break 250.
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Verlander's chance of 300 is definitely out the window at this point. He really hasn't been bad this year overall though. It's just been a few very bad starts, particularly in this first half of April. His last game against the A's was awful too, but before that he had an ERA of 3.31 in his last nine starts. He's been a bit snake bitten too in terms of decisions, like at the start of May where he held the AAA team that Colorado has to 2 runs over six and two-thirds while getting the loss, or at the end of June where he only gave up 1 run to the White Sox over six innings yet got a no decision as his team lost.

I have to imagine that this is Verlander's last season unless he really is delusional enough to think that he still has the stuff to get to 300. Realistically if he surges in the second half of 2025 he could get to 270 wins (he's at 262 as of right now,) but that seems a little unlikely too. He's only 4 and 6 wins away though from tying Bob Feller and Jim Palmer respectively though which is no small feat. The two closest active pitchers aren't going to touch him as they're peers from his generation in Scherzer (almost 41 and clearly isn't an ace anymore) and Kershaw (37, injured half the time, clearly not an ace workhorse anymore and has been linked to retirement for the last few winters) who are both at 216. After that it's an injured and soon-to-be 35 year old Gerrit Cole all the way down with 153 wins.

200 wins is definitely going to be the new 300. The youngest active pitcher to even have triple digit career wins is Jose Berrios who is 31.
 
Local Fed said:
The two closest active pitchers aren't going to touch him as they're peers from his generation in Scherzer (almost 41 and clearly isn't an ace anymore)
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It's all good vibes in Toronto right now with the Jays ripping off 8 straight wins with sweeps of the Yanks & Angels at home (and for the first time ever running the gauntlet on a 7-game homestand).

But Scherzer is still Mr. Glass.

He only made it 3 innings into his start to open the season. Then pulled himself and declared he wouldn't pitch again until his chronic thumb issue from the last few years was "sorted out for good".

This resulted in him clowning around the dugout on the IL for about 6 weeks with no timetable to return.

Then he eventually disappeared to Dunedin, FL to the Jays complex for awhile. So we got daily updates on now he was feeling after throwing bullpens and simulated games for weeks. Then he eventually went out on rehab.

He returned right before the Yanks series and has had 3 starts. His stuff has been alright (with velo sitting around 94) but he hasn't been very efficient and hasn't made it out of the 5th yet. He is on unspecified pitch counts, but burns the overworked bullpen when he gets yanked in the 4th or 5th, especially because the Jays haven't been carrying a long man until recently.

On top of all this, the same chronic thumb issue that knocked him out 3 innings into April is still there after all the babying and bullshit.

He complained about "expected inflammation" in his thumb the day after his last AAA rehab start. All we hear now is how much his thumb is going to hurt the next day after his games.

In his last start against the Angels, Scherzer was lifted after 70 pitches and 4 innings because his thumb was hurting more than usual after his 85 pitches the previous start against NY. This on a day when the Jays had like 3 relievers available and ended up winning in the bottom of the 11th.

I hope the Jays go out at the deadline and get another starter because Max isn't long for this team. It's not like they have any depth waiting in the wings either (except a post-TJ Alek Manoah just starting his rehab). For the 12 weeks or so that Max was gone, the club was running out a bullpen game 1-2 times every rotation.

Thank God for found money in a post-Korea Eric Lauer.
 
The Dodgers took a sixth straight loss, being swept by the Astros and the Brewers. Their offense has scored only 1 run in each game except for a 6-4 loss in the middle game against Houston, and a 3-2 loss to end the Milwaukee series.

Despite that, they still have a 5 game lead in the NL West over the Giants, with whom they begin a weekend series.
 
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